one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
Interesting.
The #369 by itself is wan wu
But the 9x9x9 is the uncared block which conveys seven #369 arrays in a specific order… so while I deploy the canon of supreme mystery at the ninth layer I reference the Dao Te CHING by such ordering and apply the TETRA to the fourth as dominion.
Here is an example:
.jackNote@zen: 1, row: 7, col: 3, nous: 49 [DATE: 2021.11.23, SUPER: #331 / #49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes,
Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN), EGO: #400 / #49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN)]
<https://www.grapple369.com/?zen:1,row:7,col:3> <— this is then a slice of the uncarved block by date reference of 23 November 2021.
I am very use to writing a document in conformity to the Dao for a given
day
The eighth is a transformative prototype an I have identified four of
those:
HOMOIOS
HETEROS
TORAH
RIGHTS
The uncarved block...
On 23/11/21 12:17, one wrote:
Do you have a name for your 369 magic square?
In terms of Taoism, Tao Chia that is, for me, pu,
is what would be the uncarved block, simplicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu_(Taoism)
<< Six Daodejing chapters use pu ... >>
Below, at Hatcher's matrix, po4 appears to be used.
https://alidark.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/laozib1.pdf
Cook Ting arrives in mind at this time, speaking of Taoism.
https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu.html#3
<< begin quote from above >>
Section THREE - THE SECRET OF CARING FOR LIFE.
YOUR LIFE HAS A LIMIT but knowledge has none. If you use what is
limited to pursue what has no limit, you will be in danger. If you
understand this and still strive for knowledge, you will be in danger
for certain! If you do good, stay away from fame. If you do evil, stay
away from punishments. Follow the middle; go by what is constant, and
you can stay in one piece, keep yourself alive, look after your
parents, and live out your years.
Cook Ting was cutting up an ox for Lord Wen-hui. At every touch of his
hand, every heave of his shoulder, every move of his feet, every
thrust of his knee - zip! zoop! He slithered the knife along with a
zing, and all was in perfect rhythm, as though he were performing the
dance of the Mulberry Grove or keeping time to the Ching-shou music.
"Ah, this is marvelous!" said Lord Wen-hui. "Imagine skill reaching
such heights!"
Cook Ting laid down his knife and replied, "What I care about is the
Way, which goes beyond skill. When I first began cutting up oxen, all
I could see was the ox itself. After three years I no longer saw the
whole ox. And now - now I go at it by spirit and don't look with my
eyes. Perception and understanding have come to a stop and spirit
moves where it wants. I go along with the natural makeup, strike in
the big hollows, guide the knife through the big openings, and follow
things as they are. So I never touch the smallest ligament or tendon,
much less a main joint.
"A good cook changes his knife once a year-because he cuts. A mediocre
cook changes his knife once a month-because he hacks. I've had this
knife of mine for nineteen years and I've cut up thousands of oxen
with it, and yet the blade is as good as though it had just come from
the grindstone. There are spaces between the joints, and the blade of
the knife has really no thickness. If you insert what has no thickness
into such spaces, then there's plenty of room - more than enough for
the blade to play about it. That's why after nineteen years the blade
of my knife is still as good as when it first came
from the grindstone.
"However, whenever I come to a complicated place, I size up the
difficulties, tell myself to watch out and be careful, keep my eyes on
what I'm doing, work very slowly, and move the knife with the greatest
subtlety, until - flop! the whole thing comes apart like a clod of
earth crumbling to the ground. I stand there holding the knife and
look all around me, completely satisfied and reluctant to move on, and
then I wipe off the knife and put it away."
"Excellent!" said Lord Wen-hui. "I have heard the words of Cook Ting
and learned how to care for life!"
<< end of quote from above >> - Watson's version.
At first, an uncarved ox, call it, the bull, was seen by Ting.
Then, after three years he no longer saw it as such.
After that he went all vorpal.
- like. totally. Cheers!
dolf wrote:
Interesting.
The uncarved block...
On 23/11/21 12:17, one wrote:
Do you have a name for your 369 magic square?
In terms of Taoism, Tao Chia that is, for me, pu,
is what would be the uncarved block, simplicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu_(Taoism)
<< Six Daodejing chapters use pu ... >>
Below, at Hatcher's matrix, po4 appears to be used.
https://alidark.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/laozib1.pdf
Cook Ting arrives in mind at this time, speaking of Taoism.
https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu.html#3
<< begin quote from above >>
Section THREE - THE SECRET OF CARING FOR LIFE.
YOUR LIFE HAS A LIMIT but knowledge has none. If you use what is
limited to pursue what has no limit, you will be in danger. If you
understand this and still strive for knowledge, you will be in danger
for certain! If you do good, stay away from fame. If you do evil, stay
away from punishments. Follow the middle; go by what is constant, and
you can stay in one piece, keep yourself alive, look after your
parents, and live out your years.
Cook Ting was cutting up an ox for Lord Wen-hui. At every touch of his
hand, every heave of his shoulder, every move of his feet, every
thrust of his knee - zip! zoop! He slithered the knife along with a
zing, and all was in perfect rhythm, as though he were performing the
dance of the Mulberry Grove or keeping time to the Ching-shou music.
"Ah, this is marvelous!" said Lord Wen-hui. "Imagine skill reaching
such heights!"
Cook Ting laid down his knife and replied, "What I care about is the
Way, which goes beyond skill. When I first began cutting up oxen, all
I could see was the ox itself. After three years I no longer saw the
whole ox. And now - now I go at it by spirit and don't look with my
eyes. Perception and understanding have come to a stop and spirit
moves where it wants. I go along with the natural makeup, strike in
the big hollows, guide the knife through the big openings, and follow
things as they are. So I never touch the smallest ligament or tendon,
much less a main joint.
"A good cook changes his knife once a year-because he cuts. A mediocre
cook changes his knife once a month-because he hacks. I've had this
knife of mine for nineteen years and I've cut up thousands of oxen
with it, and yet the blade is as good as though it had just come from
the grindstone. There are spaces between the joints, and the blade of
the knife has really no thickness. If you insert what has no thickness
into such spaces, then there's plenty of room - more than enough for
the blade to play about it. That's why after nineteen years the blade
of my knife is still as good as when it first came
from the grindstone.
"However, whenever I come to a complicated place, I size up the
difficulties, tell myself to watch out and be careful, keep my eyes on
what I'm doing, work very slowly, and move the knife with the greatest subtlety, until - flop! the whole thing comes apart like a clod of
earth crumbling to the ground. I stand there holding the knife and
look all around me, completely satisfied and reluctant to move on, and
then I wipe off the knife and put it away."
"Excellent!" said Lord Wen-hui. "I have heard the words of Cook Ting
and learned how to care for life!"
<< end of quote from above >> - Watson's version.
At first, an uncarved ox, call it, the bull, was seen by Ting.
Then, after three years he no longer saw it as such.
After that he went all vorpal.
- like. totally. Cheers!
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of >>>> 4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the
body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of ones life
on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube
array I get the ANTHROPECENTRIC SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise
Those words don't mean anything to me.
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
Those types of Dao are, imo,
some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.
- fwiw, thanks! Cheers!
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:12, one wrote:
dolf wrote:
one wrote:
dolf wrote:
Interesting.
The #369 by itself is wan wu
Meaning, it represesnts the10k-things, aka, all-things?
To say any thing is all things could be said
using some type of holographic, mobius/klein, metaphor.
CORRECTION: *UNCARVED*
I noticed that and assumed you meant, uncarved.
But the 9x9x9 is the *UNCARVED* block which conveys seven #369 arrays in a >>>> specific order so while I deploy the canon of supreme mystery at the ninth
layer I reference the Dao Te CHING by such ordering and apply the TETRA to >>>> the fourth as dominion.
That doesn't make much sense to me.
Here is an example:
.jackNote@zen: 1, row: 7, col: 3, nous: 49 [DATE: 2021.11.23, SUPER: #331 /
#49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes,
Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - >>>> BARRIER (HSIEN), EGO: #400 / #49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue;
I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering >>>> support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN)]
That doesn't make any sense to me.
<https://www.grapple369.com/?zen:1,row:7,col:3> < this is then a slice of
the uncarved block by date reference of 23 November 2021.
You can see the calendar and left / right wings of the DAO TE CHING with
the ONTIC intersperses
I'm not seeing what you say I can.
I see a calendar.
I don't know what left / right wings of the DAO TE CHING are
nor what the ONTIC intersperses means.
I see a checkmarked box called ONTIC.
An unchecked box called ANKH.
I have no idea what any of that means.
Ontic might mean, physical, real, or factual existence.
What is interspersed exactly in the diagrams is unknown to me
aside from everything being interspersed in the diagrams.
I see, in a gray box, lots of terms, e.g. Nous #49,
which doesn't mean anything to me. Torah, Dao, Tetra
and I-Ching. Then, there's to the right of that gray box
a batch of material that doesn't mean anything to me.
Probably it all means something, perhaps everything, the
Dao of the day, perhaps, to you given your understanding
and documentation for whatever reason or reasons.
Are you documenting the Dao of the day
using your various mixing and matching
of Hebrew, Greek, Egyptian, Chinese
and English words, signs, symbols, etc.?
If so, aside from documenting the Dao of the day,
is there any other meaning, to you?
Should all of that mean something to others?
Why are you posting it?
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of >>>>> 4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the
body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of ones life >>>> on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube
array I get the ANTHROPECENTRIC SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise
Those words don't mean anything to me.
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the category of Understanding—it is immense
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01>
Those types of Dao are, imo,
some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.
- fwiw, thanks! Cheers!
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of >>>>> 4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the
body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of ones life >>>> on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube
array I get the *ANTHROPOCENTRIC* SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise
Those words don't mean anything to me.
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the category of Understanding—it is immense
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as well as time
Those types of Dao are, imo,
some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.
- fwiw, thanks! Cheers!
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:Those words don't mean anything to me.
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of
4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the >>>>>> body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one?s life >>>>>> on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube >>>>> array I get the *ANTHROPOCENTRIC* SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise >>>>
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know. >>>>
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the
category of Understandingit is immense
So, you are attempting to increase your understanding, apperceptions,
by building on what you know, to unify your self in some fashion?
If so, I can see how that might work.
Each morning, for example, reading messages here
often puts a form of me, a self of mine, in mind of Tao
as Tao is understood by a mind of mine and at times God
arrives in contrast or apposite and suggests how forms
of me are and selves of mine are as elves, etc.
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as well as time
#400 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#20, #40, #60, #80, #200] / #380
as [#40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11}
1) number, tale; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) *innumerable* (with
negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number,
according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
few, numerable (alone) <--- *ANTHROPOCENTRIC* SINGULARITY
Man is the center?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropocentrism
<< the belief that human beings are the central
or most important entity in the universe.>>
A singularity might be where mathematics fails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity
Lots of connotations appear.
- hmmm ... Cheers!
dolf wrote:
The Tetra are each number compromised of this formulation:
0, 27, 54 <-- unity of apperception
0, 9, 18
0, 3, 6 <— following numbers are all divisions of three
1, 2, 3
Ah. Four rows. I get it. Tetra. Okay.
Top row means, unity of apperception.
I don't know what unity of apperception means.
Third row contains divisions of three. Okay.
No idea why that is significant.
From the Taoist classic Tao Te Ching, it was held that "The Tao produced
One; One produced Two; Two produced Three; Three produced All things."
I agree.
The Tetra mapping is here
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
That's not making any sense to me.
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of >>>>>> 4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the >>>>> body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one?s life >>>>> on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube
array I get the ANTHROPECENTRIC SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise
Those words don't mean anything to me.
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the
category of Understanding—it is immense
Doing a time check
is not what I'd call being spontaneous, personally.
It reminds me of checking the weather
by looking up a report on the Internet.
I'd call that, not being spontaneous.
Our lexicons appear to disagree a bit.
Being spontaneous would be, not checking
the weather, the time, the date, nor having
any consultation with any one, body, thing and
simply going outside, for no reason with no ulterior
motive, spontaneously and then perhaps noticing how,
wow, it's a great day, or night. The temperature is
cool or warm and it's a great sunrise or sunset
or the Sun appears to be high in the sky.
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01>
None of what's there means anything to me.
Those types of Dao are, imo,
some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.
- fwiw, thanks! Cheers!
I noticed what appears to be a signature.
YOUTUBE: "The Meerkat Circus"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-7OuqWi4vQ>
SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF >> NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND* *ROMAN* >> *CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5, #200 as
harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a extortioner, a
robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL* *AND* *FRAUDULENT*
Private Street on the edge of the Central Business District dated 16th May, >> 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice of an
Application for Planning Permit
<http://www.grapple369.com/jubilee2000.html>
SEE ALSO: HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]
Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in 1993), >> first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN CHING {ie. >> Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated with the theory >> of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology reliant upon the seven >> visible planets as cosmological mother image and the zodiac.
Reminded me of astrology.
It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF NATURE-genesis >> [James 3:6] as HYPOSTASIS comprising #81 trinomial tetragrammaton x 4.5 day >> = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER which is an amalgam of the >> 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as trinomial tetragrammaton rather
than its encapsulated contrived use as the microcosm to redefine the
macrocosm as the quintessence of the Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial
canon of transposition as HETEROS THEORY OF NUMBER.
<http://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006 defines >> a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is permissible to
extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING AS A CONSCIOUS
REALITY OF HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED WITHIN THE TEMPORAL
REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND RATIONALITY."
That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] as
EXISTENCE / *OUSIA*.
<http://www.grapple369.com/Grumble.zip> (Download resources)
After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS.
Curious material.
No sure what it all means.
- cheers!
dolf wrote:
Yes I am documenting the DAO of the day (the yellow bar)
So, it's like a news-cast?
Not like astrology.
A news-cast based on numbers, trigrams, hexigrams, etc?
but I am using the
Jewish time aggregations of generally five days, single four days and some >> six days as 72 zones. Whereas the Dao is 4.5 days x 81 squares.
I don't understand any of what that means.
The .jackNote@zen: ?, row: ?, col: ? then gives me a homogeneous means to >> read the texts: I Ching, Dao Te CHING and canon of supreme mystery for any >> given day or times.
I can write a narrative according to such template.
Why are you writing such a narrative?
Why post it to Usenet?
- thanks! Cheers!
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
On 23/11/21 14:42, one wrote:Those words don't mean anything to me.
dolf wrote:
Here is the Canon of Supreme Mystery mapping to the I CHING hexagrams of
4 BCE as the course of nature.
<https://www.grapple369.com/nature.html>
<-- Maps the #81 tetra to hexagrams
Nice graphic. Doesn't mean anything to me.
<< HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6] >>
You appear to be mixing and matching various different
forms of something. I don't know what Trochos is.
No idea what James 3:6 says.
I can google both of them.
Maybe that would help.
Trochos might mean, wheel.
James 3:6 talks about the tongue.
<< The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the >>>>>> body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one?s life >>>>>> on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell. >> - NIV.
I have no idea how a wheel, in Greek,
relates to the tongue in James' view.
Okay. Looks as if it's buried there, in the Greek, in James 3:6.
Wheel of life. Whole course of nature.
The wheel is the following:
#71 #1 #11
#61 #81 #21
#51 #41 #31 = #369 as #205 + #164
<https://www.grapple369.com/images/EarthSeasons.png>
if I intersection #205 with #164 as type TELOS within the 9x9x9 cube >>>>> array I get the *ANTHROPOCENTRIC* SINGULARITY as centre ontic premise >>>>
Man as the center of all things?
<https://www.grapple369.com/?telos:205> <--- CLICK HERE
I have no idea what your'e trying to say.
I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated
method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know. >>>>
You've got what you call an uncarved block,
a 9x9 369 magic square, buttons, graphs, charts
and I'm sure there is profound meaning there for you.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao
as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ)
could be a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing.
If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the
category of Understandingit is immense
So, you are attempting to increase your understanding, apperceptions,
by building on what you know, to unify your self in some fashion?
If so, I can see how that might work.
Each morning, for example, reading messages here
often puts a form of me, a self of mine, in mind of Tao
as Tao is understood by a mind of mine and at times God
arrives in contrast or apposite and suggests how forms
of me are and selves of mine are as elves, etc.
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as well as time
#400 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#20, #40, #60, #80, #200] / #380
as [#40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11}
1) number, tale; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) *innumerable* (with
negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number,
according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
few, numerable (alone) <--- *ANTHROPOCENTRIC* SINGULARITY
Man is the center?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropocentrism
<< the belief that human beings are the central
or most important entity in the universe.>>
A singularity might be where mathematics fails.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity
Lots of connotations appear.
- hmmm ... Cheers!
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
<https://www.grapple369.com>
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 1552 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ) could be
a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing. If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
Those types of Dao are, in my opinion, some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.”
DOLF @ 1601 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the category of Understanding—it is immense
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as
well as time
#400 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#20, #40, #60, #80, #200] /
#380 as [#40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11} 1) number, tale; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) *innumerable* (with
negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number, according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0030 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “So, you are attempting to increase your understanding, apperceptions, by building on
what you know, to unify your self in some fashion?
If so, I can see how that might work.”
DOLF @ 0712 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “That I have made a statement and then performed a time check against my appraisal paradigm to find that the idea in this instance is there.
YOUTUBE: “Gregorian - gloria (feat. narcis)”
<https://youtu.be/MJNm8FjtsgY>
#442 as [#2, #400, #5, #30, #5] = tᵉhillâh (H8416): {UMBRA: #440 % #41 = #30} 1) praise, song or hymn of praise; 1a) praise, adoration, thanksgiving (paid to God); 1b) act of general or public praise; 1c) praise-song (as title); 1d) praise (demanded by qualities or deeds or attributes of God);
1e) renown, fame, glory; 1e1) of Damascus, God; 1e2) object of praise, possessor of renown (fig);
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:7.12>
In this example @ 1601 hrs the word immense can be a synonym for innumerable.”
Initial Post: 23 November 2021
aye wrote:
I was reminded of Gloria, another song.
It got confused with Louie Louie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kingsmen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louie_Louie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkaMVLHxzWE
Them was Them.
dolf wrote:
REPOSTED WITH GRAMMAR UPDATE
So I used 1601 hrs - immense = innumerable / 0712 hours - Gloria song =
glory hymn as both corresponding to a time check as instances to
substantiate any spontaneous act.
So, the time check
substantiated your spontaneous act,
which said spontaneous act was to make a statement
after having made said statement being iterated
was reiterated by the magic square uncarved
block which reminds me of all people of a
funny Ting, using m'eye language and
what is called, aye, as being the
Uncarved Block (UB).
And in the other instance chose a song to include beforehand in our
conversation so as to emphasise an action (ie. done yesterday on
Facebook) and then was moved to spontaneously respond @ 0712 hours to
one of your earlier posts and by such then paired my actions with my
appraisals paradigm as each conveying an equivalent category of
understanding.
Okay. I think I'm getting some of
what you are saying, basically,
if not in depths knots of mines when
going spelunking in mines of m'eye minds.
In one sense it is a human attribute but in another instance it is a
transcendence that few can naturally attain to.
Mystical experiences vary, naturally.
Seeing fractal expressions in one thing, two
things, three and 10k-things can be astonishing.
http://www.daoisopen.com/ZZ3.html
- even two an odd Ting! carving the bull. Cheers!
<< begin quote from a Daojia text linked to above >>
Zhuangzi Chapter 3 ~ Opinions on Nurturing Life
Translation by Nina Correa
There are limits in our lives,
but there are no limits to knowledge.
Using what's limited to try to catch up with what's unlimited
can only bring trouble. Someone who already thinks
they're knowledgeable is really in trouble.
Acting with kindness doesn't necessarily bring warm responses.
Acting badly doesn't necessarily bring punishment.
If you sort through for the strongest points fate has provided to you
and set your course by them, then your body can be protected,
your life can be perfected, your loved ones can be supported,
and you can live out your natural life span.
Cook Ding
was cutting up an ox for Lord Wen Hui (Kind Gentle Official).
With his hands in place, his shoulders hunched,
his foot thrust forward, and his knee bent -
every slice of meat fell in front of him
as his knife seemed to hum a melody.
With a steady rhythm, it didn't miss a beat.
It was equal to the dancing
performed to the music of "The Mulberry Grove,"
and as skillful as the musicians
playing "The Jing Shou."
Lord Wen Hui said:
"Oh, excellent!
How did you come up with such a perfect technique?"
Cook Ding set down his knife and replied:
"Your servant is fond of Dao,
which advances techniques.
At the time when I first began as a butcher,
all I could see was a whole ox.
Three years later, I no longer saw the ox as a whole.
Nowadays, I sense with my spirit instead of looking with my eye.
My brain knows when to stop and let my spirit take over.
Following the natural grain, noting the large gaps
between the cartilage and observing the huge hollows -
they already provide me with a map.
When I come upon places where muscle and bone connect,
that's the only time I need to be forceful!
A good cook changes his knife every year because he cuts.
An ordinary cook changes his knife every month because he hacks.
I've had my knife for nineteen years,
and I've butchered over a thousand oxen.
It's as sharp now as it was when it was first honed.
Each section of the ox has a gap,
and the edge of my knife is narrower than that opening.
Those are the gaps where I thrust my narrow blade.
So wide are those places where I place my knife
that there's lots of leeway. That's why I've had this knife
for nineteen years and it's still like new.
Nevertheless,
every time I come to a dense spot,
I look for its difficulties.
I proceed with caution and keep my guard up,
considering when I should stop and when I should move slowly.
I move the knife just a little bit and that part is quickly separated,
like a clump of dirt shifting on the ground.
Then I lift up my knife and stand up straight,
pausing to look at at all my work until I'm satisfied with it.
Then I properly clean my knife and stow it away."
Lord Wen Hui said:
"Excellent! What I've gotten from your words is how to nourish life."
When Gong Wen Xuan (Official Concealed Chariot)
saw the Teacher of the Right, he was startled and said:
"Who is that guy? Why is he so removed from the rest of us?
Is he more related to the heavens, or is he more related to people?"
"To the heavens, not to people.
The life the heavens has given him
is what makes him appear so isolated.
Most people try to act in ways
that bring them approval from other people.
He prefers to have understanding of the heavens, not of people.
"A marsh pheasant will take ten steps to get one peck of food;
a hundred steps to get one drink of water.
It wouldn't stay in a cage
if it was given unlimited amounts of food and water.
If it was treated like a god or a king, that would be bad for it."
When Lao Dan (Lao Zi) died,
Qin Shi mourned for him by uttering three howls and leaving.
A disciple asked:
"Weren't you a friend of the Master?"
"Yes, I was."
"If that's so,
then can you really be comfortable mourning in this way?"
"Yes, I can.
At first I thought of him as a man, but now I don't.
When I went in to mourn, there were a lot of old people crying -
as though they were crying for the loss of their own children.
A few of them cried as though they were crying
for the loss of their own mothers.
Each of them, therefore,
who came to assemble here wanted not to be alone
while saying their words; not to be alone while crying their tears.
By trying to escape their many natural emotions,
they've forgotten they can endure their suffering.
The ancients called this trying to escape natural torment.
When it was appropriate for him to come,
the Master took that opportunity.
When it was appropriate for him to leave, the Master submitted.
By peacefully accepting the opportunity
and later comfortably submitting,
sorrow and happiness
don't enter the picture.
In ancient times this was called
dismissing the ruler from his earthly responsibilities."
If you keep pointing at stuff you'll become like firewood.
The flame will keep burning you up and you won't know when it'll stop.
<< end of quote from above >>
- hm6of1 ... Cheers!
dolf wrote:
Ive added the enigmatic DAO TE CHING to the working example
I don't know what that means. What working example?
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
Who are they?
What is your, plural, GLBTIQ Bible?
The word enigmatic means mysterious…
And the later canon of supreme mystery seems to seek to clarify such.
The example dialog ought to immediately clarify the nature of spontaneity
and its validation against the paradigm as uncarved block since I have included the relevant Dao Te CHING quotes.
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
Ive added the enigmatic DAO TE CHING to the working example
I don't know what that means. What working example?
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
Who are they?
What is your, plural, GLBTIQ Bible?
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
<https://www.grapple369.com>
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 1552 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ) could be
a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing. If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
Those types of Dao are, in my opinion, some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.”
DOLF @ 1601 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the category of Understanding—it is immense
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as
well as time
#400 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#20, #40, #60, #80, #200] /
#380 as [#40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11} 1) number, tale; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) *innumerable* (with
negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number, according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0030 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “So, you are attempting to increase your understanding, apperceptions, by building on
what you know, to unify your self in some fashion?
If so, I can see how that might work.”
DOLF @ 0712 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “That I have made a statement and then performed a time check against my appraisal paradigm to find that the idea in this instance is there.
YOUTUBE: “Gregorian - gloria (feat. narcis)”
<https://youtu.be/MJNm8FjtsgY>
#442 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#2, #400, #5, #30, #5] /
#440 as [#400, #5, #30, #5] = tᵉhillâh (H8416): {UMBRA: #440 % #41 = #30} 1) praise, song or hymn of praise; 1a) praise, adoration, thanksgiving
(paid to God); 1b) act of general or public praise; 1c) praise-song (as title); 1d) praise (demanded by qualities or deeds or attributes of God);
1e) renown, fame, glory; 1e1) of Damascus, God; 1e2) object of praise, possessor of renown (fig);
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:7.12>
So I used 1601 hrs - immense = innumerable / 0712 hours - Gloria song =
glory hymn as both corresponding to a time check as instances to
substantiate any spontaneous act.
.jackNote@zen: 1, row: 7, col: 3, nous: 49 [TIME: 16:00, SUPER: #331 / #49
- Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN), EGO: #400 / #49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN)]
“The sage has no mind of his own.
He is aware of the need of others.
I am good to people who are good.
I am also good to people who are not good.
Because Virtue is goodness.
I have faith in people who are faithful.
I also have faith in people who are not faithful.
Because Virtue is faithfulness.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 49]
And in the other instance chose a song to include beforehand in our conversation so as to emphasise an action (ie. done yesterday on Facebook) and then was moved to spontaneously respond @ 0712 hours to one of your earlier posts and by such then paired my actions with the appraisals
paradigm as each conveying an equivalent category of understanding.
.jackNote@zen: 3, row: 3, col: 8, nous: 55 [TIME: 07:10, SUPER: #442 / #51
- Natural Guides and Nursing Virtuosity; I-Ching: H47 - Oppression (exhaustion), Confining, Entangled; Tetra: 69 - EXHAUSTION (CH'IUNG),
“Therefore all things arise from Tao.
By Virtue they are nourished,
Developed, cared for,
Sheltered, comforted,
Grown, and protected.
Creating without claiming,
Doing without taking credit,
Guiding without interfering,
This is Primal Virtue.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 51]
EGO: #393 / #55 - Abstruse Mysterious Signs; I-Ching: H22 - Elegance,
Grace, Adorning, Luxuriance; Tetra: 54 - UNITY (K'UN)]
“He has not experienced the union of man and woman, but is whole.
His manhood is strong.
He screams all day without becoming hoarse.
This is perfect harmony.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 55]
AYE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0554 HOURS ON 25 NOVEMBER 2021: "So, the time
check substantiated your spontaneous act, which said spontaneous act was to make a statement after having made said statement being iterated was reiterated by the magic square uncarved block..."
In one sense it is a human attribute but in another instance it is a transcendence that few can naturally attain to.
Initial Post: 23 November 2021
The word enigmatic means mysterious…
And the later canon of supreme mystery seems to seek to clarify such.
The example dialog ought to immediately clarify the nature of spontaneity
and its validation against the paradigm as uncarved block since I have included the relevant Dao Te CHING quotes.
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
Ive added the enigmatic DAO TE CHING to the working example
I don't know what that means. What working example?
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
Who are they?
What is your, plural, GLBTIQ Bible?
I wonder what they think of our GLBTIQ Bible?
<https://www.grapple369.com>
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 1552 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “I do understand, in my own way, you appear to have a complicated method of arriving at something. What that something is, I don't know.
Day by day, presumably, you can document a Dao.
Whether that Dao is the same Dao as found in the Dao De Jing (DDJ) could be
a wonder.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing. If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
Those types of Dao are, in my opinion, some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.”
DOLF @ 1601 HOURS ON 23 NOVEMBER 2021: “It is entirely spontaneous since I can do a time check and cohere the category of Understanding—it is immense
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:16.01> <-- intersects with the day as
well as time
#400 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#20, #40, #60, #80, #200] /
#380 as [#40, #60, #80, #200] = miçpâr (H4557): {UMBRA: #380 % #41 = #11} 1) number, tale; 1a) number; 1a1) number; 1a2) *innumerable* (with
negative); 1a3) few, numerable (alone); 1a4) by count, in number, according to number (with prep); 1b) recounting, relation;
ONE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0030 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “So, you are attempting to increase your understanding, apperceptions, by building on
what you know, to unify your self in some fashion?
If so, I can see how that might work.”
DOLF @ 0712 HOURS ON 24 NOVEMBER 2021: “That I have made a statement and then performed a time check against my appraisal paradigm to find that the idea in this instance is there.
YOUTUBE: “Gregorian - gloria (feat. narcis)”
<https://youtu.be/MJNm8FjtsgY>
#442 - *NOUMENON* *RESONANCE* as [#2, #400, #5, #30, #5] /
#440 as [#400, #5, #30, #5] = tᵉhillâh (H8416): {UMBRA: #440 % #41 = #30} 1) praise, song or hymn of praise; 1a) praise, adoration, thanksgiving
(paid to God); 1b) act of general or public praise; 1c) praise-song (as title); 1d) praise (demanded by qualities or deeds or attributes of God);
1e) renown, fame, glory; 1e1) of Damascus, God; 1e2) object of praise, possessor of renown (fig);
<https://www.grapple369.com/?time:7.12>
So I used 1601 hrs - immense = innumerable / 0712 hours - Gloria song =
glory hymn as both corresponding to a time check as instances to
substantiate any spontaneous act.
.jackNote@zen: 1, row: 7, col: 3, nous: 49 [TIME: 16:00, SUPER: #331 / #49
- Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN), EGO: #400 / #49 - Sage's Constancy, Trust in Virtue; I-Ching: H3 - Birth Throes, Initial Difficulties, Sprouting, Gathering support, Hoarding; Tetra: 4 - BARRIER (HSIEN)]
“The sage has no mind of his own.
He is aware of the need of others.
I am good to people who are good.
I am also good to people who are not good.
Because Virtue is goodness.
I have faith in people who are faithful.
I also have faith in people who are not faithful.
Because Virtue is faithfulness.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 49]
And in the other instance chose a song to include beforehand in our conversation so as to emphasise an action (ie. done yesterday on Facebook) and then was moved to spontaneously respond @ 0712 hours to one of your earlier posts and by such then paired my actions with the appraisals
paradigm as each conveying an equivalent category of understanding.
.jackNote@zen: 3, row: 3, col: 8, nous: 55 [TIME: 07:10, SUPER: #442 / #51
- Natural Guides and Nursing Virtuosity; I-Ching: H47 - Oppression (exhaustion), Confining, Entangled; Tetra: 69 - EXHAUSTION (CH'IUNG),
“Therefore all things arise from Tao.
By Virtue they are nourished,
Developed, cared for,
Sheltered, comforted,
Grown, and protected.
Creating without claiming,
Doing without taking credit,
Guiding without interfering,
This is Primal Virtue.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 51]
EGO: #393 / #55 - Abstruse Mysterious Signs; I-Ching: H22 - Elegance,
Grace, Adorning, Luxuriance; Tetra: 54 - UNITY (K'UN)]
“He has not experienced the union of man and woman, but is whole.
His manhood is strong.
He screams all day without becoming hoarse.
This is perfect harmony.” [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 55]
AYE <BEING@APOLKA.SIGN> @ 0554 HOURS ON 25 NOVEMBER 2021: "So, the time
check substantiated your spontaneous act, which said spontaneous act was to make a statement after having made said statement being iterated was reiterated by the magic square uncarved block..."
In one sense it is a human attribute but in another instance it is a transcendence that few can naturally attain to.
Initial Post: 23 November 2021
dolf wrote:
You said: Whether that Dao is the same Dao as found in the Dao De Jing
(DDJ) could be a wonder.
So I demonstrated that it was the same Dao.
I'm not sure that what you demonstrated
is what was being a wonder to me at the time.
And now youre quibbling over editorial license and fail to recognise the >> wonderment.
To consult the magic square in order to determine
if a statement made is verified by the magic square
isn't what was being called, spontaneous, by me,
according to how the word, spontaneous, was
being defined by me, using my lexicon and
application thereof at the time.
If it's wu-wei, that'd be a thing. If it's wu-xin, that may be a Dao.
Without-action.
Without-thought.
No-mind. Spontaneous.
Those types of Dao are, in my opinion, some of the Dao of Daojia, aka
Daoist Philosophy.
The sage has no mind of his own.
He is aware of the need of others.
I am good to people who are good.
I am also good to people who are not good.
Because Virtue is goodness.
I have faith in people who are faithful.
I also have faith in people who are not faithful.
Because Virtue is faithfulness. [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 49]
I'm not seeing how that applies
to making a statement and then using
the magic square to validate the statement.
Therefore all things arise from Tao.
By Virtue they are nourished,
Developed, cared for,
Sheltered, comforted,
Grown, and protected.
Creating without claiming,
Doing without taking credit,
Guiding without interfering,
This is Primal Virtue. [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 51]
Looks to be the second half of Feng's version.
It brings up a question, a wonder of sorts,
Do all things arise from the Three?
Do all things arise from Yu/Being?
Do all things arise from Tao?
With other chapters, all things
are said to arise differently and so
to pick one and call it, Three, or to pick
one and call it Being or to pick one
and call it Tao one is able to.
He has not experienced the union of man and woman, but is whole.
His manhood is strong.
He screams all day without becoming hoarse.
This is perfect harmony. [Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 55]
Returning to being an infant
without making any statement
and without seeking any verification
can be a technique found in TTC, Ch. 55.
For me, such a state of mind or heart, hsin/xin
points to being without any heart or mind, wu-hsin/wu-xin.
How to arrive at such a level, returning,
could be questioned and answered in the text
known as the Chuang-tzu (CT) in at least two places.
https://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu.html
<< begin quote from Chapter 6 >>
Yen Hui said, "I'm improving!"
Confucius said, "What do you mean by that?"
"I've forgotten benevolence and righteousness!"
"That's good. But you still haven't got it."
Another day, the two met again and Yen Hui said, "I'm improving!"
"What do you mean by that?"
"I've forgotten rites and music!"
"That's good. But you still haven't got it."
Another day, the two met again and Yen Hui said, "I'm improving! "
"What do you mean by that?"
"I can sit down and forget everything!"
Confucius looked very startled and said, "What do you mean, sit down
and forget everything.'-"
Yen Hui said, "I smash up my limbs and body, drive out perception and intellect, cast off form, do away with understanding, and make myself identical with the Great Thoroughfare. This is what I mean by sitting
down and forgetting everything."
Confucius said, "If you're identical with it, you must have no more
likes! If you've been transformed, you must have no more constancy! So
you really are a worthy man after all! With your permission, I'd like
to become your follower."
<< end of quote >>
<< begin quote from Chapter 19 >>
Woodworker Ch'ing carved a piece of wood and made a bell stand, and
when it was finished, everyone who saw it marveled, for it seemed to
be the work of gods or spirits. When the marquis of Lu saw it, he
asked, "What art is it you have?"
Ch'ing replied, "I am only a craftsman - how would I have any art?
There is one thing, however. When I am going to make a bell stand, I
never let it wear out my energy. I always fast in order to still my
mind. When I have fasted for three days, I no longer have any thought
of congratulations or rewards, of titles or stipends. When I have
fasted for five days, I no longer have any thought of praise or blame,
of skill or clumsiness. And when I have fasted for seven days, I am so
still that I forget I have four limbs and a form and body. By that
time, the ruler and his court no longer exist for me. My skill is concentrated and all outside distractions fade away. After that, I go
into the mountain forest and examine the Heavenly nature of the trees.
If I find one of superlative form, and I can see a bell stand there, I
put my hand to the job of carving; if not, I let it go. This way I am
simply matching up `Heaven' with `Heaven.' That's probably the reason
that people wonder if the results were not made by spirits."
<< end of quote >>
- thanks! Cheers!
dolf <dolfboek@hotmail.com> wrote:
one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
dolf wrote:
You said: ?Whether that Dao is the same Dao as found in the Dao De Jing >>>> (DDJ) could be a wonder.?
So I demonstrated that it was the same Dao.
I'm not sure that what you demonstrated
is what was being a wonder to me at the time.
And now you?re quibbling over editorial license and fail to recognise the >>>> wonderment.
To consult the magic square in order to determine
if a statement made is verified by the magic square
isn't what was being called, spontaneous, by me,
according to how the word, spontaneous, was
being defined by me, using my lexicon and
application thereof at the time.
There are to actions involved:
1) the spontaneous action
2) the referential check
They are undertaken independently and with integrity.
1) Being spontaneous, without-effort, unpremeditated,
would be a form of Tao Chia, imo and the second one;
2) having a planned magic square reference-check
and intending to use it to check the statement made,
would be more Confucian, imo, similar to the Yijing,
aka I-Ching, using it actively, with intent, etc.
Using my lexicon, the second 2) dao is not the Dao
of the Dao De Ching nor Zhuangzi, imo.
The first 1) spontanous wu-wei, wu-xin, without-thought,
saying what ever it was you said when you stated what
you stated, naturally, could be a Dao of the DDJ/Zz, Daojia.
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