Another Ronnie Corbet-esque story from the nontrepreneur.

Not sure if anyone else here has a business property but there isn't any "comparison" sites as such for trying to find cheaper gas and
electricity so finding a supplier that will provide their business unit
rates has always been a problem as all the domestic suppliers don't
typically supply to businesses. Given this, I'd stuck to the same
provider (Ecotricity) for many years as they claimed to provide the best
rates for businesses based on postcode. How stupid was I to believe an
energy company, especially one following a hardline "Green" B.S. agenda
would be a financially sound bet.

Well, the ever rising standing charge and crippling monthly utillity
costs had me giving Ecotricity business dept. a call. The operative was understanding but justified the high costs of thier gas/electricity and standing-charge by ongoing investment into "renewables".. (Dale Vince's
love of wind turbines and electric cars no doubt); however he did let
slip that Octopus Energy were their biggest competitor. Hmmmmnnnn.

I've never fallen into the whole "Octopus Energy" thing for domestic
supply because IIRC they insisted on new customers having a "sm@rt
meter" which isn't going to happen any time soon as my old mechanical
electric meter goes backwards when the sun shines and catches up at
night or later in the Autumn like a 100% efficient solar battery that
will last forever, with unlimited capacity that costs nothing. Not
electricity "theft" just loaning out what I'm making to the neighbours.
And besides which, my current supplier "So Energy" actually works out
cheaper using monthly data than Octopus. (£10 less for January 2024
figures) but now Octopus have moved into the business energy supply I
took a look.
Not only are their business unit rates for Gas and Electricity a
fraction of the price of Ecotricity they have a "No Standing Charge"
option too. The saving by comparison is cavernous! Just working through
my 28 day notice period before I'm "allowed" to leave Ecotricity.

AND if you are a business switching to Octopus Energy both you and the
referee get £100 instead of the domestic £50 each referral.

If you know or own a business property owner get them to switch; energy
prices were our biggest overhead for the shop, but now we get to breathe
again. And if you're not happy with Octopus domestic rates I can highly recommend So Energy, especially if you have solar panels and a backwards running electricity meter!
Obviously the "get paid to switch" links follow:

Octopus Business Energy (£100 to each account) https://share.octopus.energy/storm-foal-546

So Energy (Domestic) Cheaper than Octopus
https://so.energy/r/SJHKPHIIH

Happy Days!
Pete

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www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

I've never fallen into the whole "Octopus Energy" thing for domestic
supply because IIRC they insisted on new customers having a "sm@rt
meter" which isn't going to happen any time soon as my old mechanical >electric meter goes backwards when the sun shines and catches up at
night or later in the Autumn like a 100% efficient solar battery that
will last forever, with unlimited capacity that costs nothing.

When your solar was commissioned, did you have to declare that
your meter ran backwards? I though it was a standard question.

Or is it that your supplier is not bothered enough to take
action?

Chris
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chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

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Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:

www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

I've never fallen into the whole "Octopus Energy" thing for domestic
supply because IIRC they insisted on new customers having a "sm@rt
meter" which isn't going to happen any time soon as my old mechanical
electric meter goes backwards when the sun shines and catches up at
night or later in the Autumn like a 100% efficient solar battery that
will last forever, with unlimited capacity that costs nothing.

When your solar was commissioned, did you have to declare that
your meter ran backwards? I though it was a standard question.

Or is it that your supplier is not bothered enough to take
action?

Chris

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/feed-in-tariffs/article/feed-in-tariffs/electricity-meters-running-backwards-afQO90P1oLps

Tim

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Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:

www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

I've never fallen into the whole "Octopus Energy" thing for domestic
supply because IIRC they insisted on new customers having a "sm@rt
meter" which isn't going to happen any time soon as my old mechanical
electric meter goes backwards when the sun shines and catches up at
night or later in the Autumn like a 100% efficient solar battery that
will last forever, with unlimited capacity that costs nothing.

When your solar was commissioned, did you have to declare that
your meter ran backwards? I though it was a standard question.

I think it’s the installer’s responsibility to check.

I’m sure the supplier and the DNO should be interested but if neither can
be bothered to check I’m not sure I’d be in a hurry to tell them. ;-)

The worst that suppliers can to is make an estimated bill for the past year
but the benefits of having a reverse running meter probably outweigh that
risk.

Tim

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On 14/02/2024 21:00, Chris J Dixon wrote:

When your solar was commissioned, did you have to declare that
your meter ran backwards? I though it was a standard question.

It was installed at the start of a November so generation didn't exceed backround consumption for many months so any/all questions that might
have been asked at the time were answered with complete honesty.

The obligatory bi-annual generation meter inspector comes around to
check everything still matches and presumably submitted FIT readings are
as expected. Nevery any problems or concerns.

"Ask no question - Tell no lies"
:)

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On 14/02/2024 21:25, Tim+ wrote:

Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:

www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:

I've never fallen into the whole "Octopus Energy" thing for domestic
supply because IIRC they insisted on new customers having a "sm@rt
meter" which isn't going to happen any time soon as my old mechanical
electric meter goes backwards when the sun shines and catches up at
night or later in the Autumn like a 100% efficient solar battery that
will last forever, with unlimited capacity that costs nothing.

When your solar was commissioned, did you have to declare that
your meter ran backwards? I though it was a standard question.

Or is it that your supplier is not bothered enough to take
action?

Chris

https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/feed-in-tariffs/article/feed-in-tariffs/electricity-meters-running-backwards-afQO90P1oLps

"Regulator Ofgem told us: 'Where a customer suspects that the
installation of electricity-generating equipment has affected the
operation of their import-supply meter and it's no longer accurately
measuring the electricity supplied to them, they should contact their
import supplier at the earliest opportunity."

It IS accurately measuring electricity supplied I am in no doubt about
that. Every kWh imported from the grid is recorded.
"should" is advisory not compulsory.

As noted previously there is no meter tampering/bypassing and no
electricity theft; every unit in excess of those privately generated and consumed are paid for. It's actually reducing network distribution load
by supplying it to the immediate neighbours, several of whom have E.V.'s

:)

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