Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:24:13 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
But do they tell you how long a lettuce (or King Charles) will last?
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:46:40 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:24:13 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
But do they tell you how long a lettuce (or King Charles) will last?
There was a satirical piece in the register over 15 years ago about an
"app" that could scan fruit and veg and give you the use by date ...
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit
and vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales. Some supermarkets were selling many tons more carrots than they put on
the shelves.
I note in some of te supermarkets many more cameras monitoring the
individual self service checkouts
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
On 10 Feb 2024 at 14:20:59 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
On 10/02/2024 15:55, Tim Streater wrote:
On 10 Feb 2024 at 14:20:59 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and
vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
On 10 Feb 2024 at 16:23:46 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher" <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 10/02/2024 15:55, Tim Streater wrote:
On 10 Feb 2024 at 14:20:59 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >>>Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit and >>>> vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales.
Why might they do that?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
Why might they do that?Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in >large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
On 10 Feb 2024 17:07:25 GMT, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> wrote:
Why might they do that?Carrots are cheaper than avocados?
In the hope that the checkout person doesn't see the words "Loose carrots" in
large text on the sticky label the scroat has attached to the avocado?
The customer using the self service scales and misidentifying the
produce will also be using the self-service checkout.
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:20:59 +0000
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/02/2024 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
Isn't that to overcome the problem where most people weighing fruit
and vegetables input carrots as being the product on the scales. Some
supermarkets were selling many tons more carrots than they put on
the shelves.
I note in some of te supermarkets many more cameras monitoring the
individual self service checkouts
Costco and Walmart in the US have closed some self-service tills,
allegedly due to 'losses'.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/13/business/self-checkout-stores-shopping/index.html
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag taken
off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on top of
stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to okaying
the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after you've paid -
and of course they are then tied up with someone else and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
On 10/02/2024 22:53, SteveW wrote:
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine
or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag
taken off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on top
of stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to
okaying the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after
you've paid - and of course they are then tied up with someone else
and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.
Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till assistant
rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it. No tags on
on the first place.
On 11/02/2024 09:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 10/02/2024 22:53, SteveW wrote:
I'm fed up of scanning a bottle of alcohol (or even alcohol free wine
or beer) and having it flag up as needing approval and needing a tag
taken off, so I can't pack it and end up with the heavy liquids on
top of stuff that gets squashed. Even worse, they now have changed to
okaying the purchase, but they don't take the tag off until after
you've paid - and of course they are then tied up with someone else
and you're stuck, trying to get their attention
Shop at Waitrose, instead.
Scan alcohol, position starts flashing, carry on packing till
assistant rocks up, confirms that you are not underage, and that's it.
No tags on on the first place.
Unfortunately, Sainsburys is 5 minutes away, while Waitrose is 30
minutes away, so not really worth the effort for just a few items.
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:04:06 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk ><jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:24:13 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
SWMBO has just reminded me that the mushrooms we were weighing were in an >>opaque reusable bag - and therefore not immediately discernable as >>mushrooms. Yet the scales correctly selected "mushrooms" as the item to >>weigh.
I suspect there is a little bit more computing going on somewhere ...
maybe a crude density calculation to act as a double-check.
If only they'd deployed this level of computing power when Covid loans
were being dished out.
I wonder if the bag is opaque to visible light but transparent to
infra red which the camera can see.
Dave W wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:04:06 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk >><jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:24:13 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:
Now incorporate a camera to automatically select the price for you.
(Doesn't do weigh on settle though)
SWMBO has just reminded me that the mushrooms we were weighing were in an >>>opaque reusable bag - and therefore not immediately discernable as >>>mushrooms. Yet the scales correctly selected "mushrooms" as the item to >>>weigh.
I suspect there is a little bit more computing going on somewhere ... >>>maybe a crude density calculation to act as a double-check.
If only they'd deployed this level of computing power when Covid loans >>>were being dished out.
I wonder if the bag is opaque to visible light but transparent to
infra red which the camera can see.
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through the mesh
bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
I wonder if the bag is opaque to visible light but transparent to
infra red which the camera can see.
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through the meshHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with pictures of
bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I wonder if they would
break the system?
Nick Odell wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through the meshHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with pictures of
bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I wonder if they would
break the system?
On 16-Mar-24 17:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon
<chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through the meshHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with
bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pictures of pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I wonder
if they would break the system?
Sainsburys might not be able to accommodate you, since an over-night
software update has uggbered their systems.
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:24:30 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 16-Mar-24 17:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:Sainsburys might not be able to accommodate you, since an over-night
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon
<chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through the meshHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with
bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pictures of pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I wonder
if they would break the system?
software update has uggbered their systems.
Does 'uggbered' mean that they now wear big woolly boots?
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 00:04:46 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:24:30 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 16-Mar-24 17:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:Sainsburys might not be able to accommodate you, since an
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon
<chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through theHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with
mesh bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pictures of pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I
wonder if they would break the system?
over-night software update has uggbered their systems.
Does 'uggbered' mean that they now wear big woolly boots?
They certainly seem to around the chilled and frozen section of the warehouse.
Bit odd, isn't it that both Sainos and Tesco insist that their
"glitch" was not a hack but the result of a software update. Who'd
have thought that two rivals like them would have done the same update
with the same consequences on the same weeked, eh?
Nick
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:51:37 +0000
Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 00:04:46 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 19:24:30 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
On 16-Mar-24 17:32, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Nick Odell wrote:Sainsburys might not be able to accommodate you, since an
On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:00:47 +0000, Chris J Dixon
<chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
When it works it is quite clever, certainly sees through theHmmm... I have some old bags-for-life from Morrisons with
mesh bag. However, although one of the scales in my local store
weighed correctly this week, it did not recognise the goods.
There is no longer any ability to make a manual choice. The
"Help" button simply tells you how it _should_ work. :-(
Fortunately an alternative set of scales worked OK.
pictures of pears and from Asda with pictures of lemons. I
wonder if they would break the system?
over-night software update has uggbered their systems.
Does 'uggbered' mean that they now wear big woolly boots?
They certainly seem to around the chilled and frozen section of the
warehouse.
Bit odd, isn't it that both Sainos and Tesco insist that their
"glitch" was not a hack but the result of a software update. Who'd
have thought that two rivals like them would have done the same update
with the same consequences on the same weeked, eh?
Nick
Maybe they use the same software. Or maybe not.........
Conspiracy theorist followers that way >>>>>>
I feel that the modules used are the same and as per usual, nobody
had done the tests to prove the system worked.
Incidentally, are modern scales independent of gravity? Somebody
told me that there are places around this planet where gravity
actually varies due to the density of the underlying material.
It would seem to me to not be a trivial matter to create a set of
scales that worked in space. It would need to measure mass via
inertia. Brian
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