https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:08:45 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
Seems 2 main drivers (see what I did there ?) are inconvenience of
charging while using - especially if you have to return the thing with a
full charge like Hertz insisted. And the ludicrous cost and time for
repairs.
On 13/01/2024 11:25, Theo wrote:
But the rideshare drivers caused
more accidents, and Teslas are an expensive PITA to repair.
From what I've read, because of the construction process a rear end
shunt may not be just a panel swap but replacement of the back half of
the car. Tesla only seem to supply spares to approved Tesla
dealers/repairers and while this may ensure quality of repairs it also removes any competitive competition in an area.
But the rideshare drivers caused
more accidents, and Teslas are an expensive PITA to repair.
On 12/01/2024 21:08, Jethro_uk wrote:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
EVs don't make that much sense as hire cars.
I drive an EV daily and it's great. However, I can charge at home,
cheaply, overnight. If I hire a car (as I had to do twice last year when attending funerals in Ireland), then I am somewhere else, without that
easy charging facility and then I want a petrol or diesel car.
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
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With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts catalogue.
With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available to third parties
or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are huge swathes of parts
that third party repair shops can't get, and can only source from
breaker yards
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:01:48 +0000, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
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With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts catalogue.
With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available to third parties
or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are huge swathes of parts
that third party repair shops can't get, and can only source from
breaker yards
Aren't we straying into monopoly territory here ?
On 12/01/2024 21:08, Jethro_uk wrote:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/12/hertz_electric_vehicle_cuts/
From various reports from the states, the second hand value of EVs has plummeted and many dealerships have enough stocks of unsold new EVs to last 6 to 9 months.
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:01:48 +0000, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts catalogue.
With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available to third parties
or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are huge swathes of parts
that third party repair shops can't get, and can only source from
breaker yards
Aren't we straying into monopoly territory here ?
On 13/01/2024 13:48, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:01:48 +0000, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts catalogue.
With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available to third
parties or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are huge swathes
of parts that third party repair shops can't get, and can only source
from breaker yards
Aren't we straying into monopoly territory here ?
Not if you can buy an EV from another manufacturer.
In article <unu4ai$g4q$69@dont-email.me>,
Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:01:48 +0000, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts catalogue. With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available to third parties or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are huge swathes of parts that third party repair shops can't get, and can only source from
breaker yards
Aren't we straying into monopoly territory here ?
Like charging points that nobody else can use?
In this example, they stop production of a successful car. They sold something like 60,000 of those in 2023. As of this month, there will be
no more of those. This might be followed by the Equinox electric, best
case a year from now (not available right away). With no Ultium battery volume available, it's hard to make anything (like the Hummer).
https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/26/23697911/gm-discontinued-chevy-bolt-small-affordable-ev
That's 60,000 cars that did not use Ultium, but used a Samsung battery.
The car makers think there is a magic cow that is going to give
them sustained milk, on very poor feed. The 9000 pound Hummer will
see them through. They made 300 Hummer EV last year. They made a lot
of ICE vehicles (at too-high price points).
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <unu4ai$g4q$69@dont-email.me>, Jethro_uk
<jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 12:01:48 +0000, Theo wrote:
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
[quoted text muted]
With most manufacturers, you can buy any part on the parts
catalogue. With Tesla, every part is marked whether it's available
to third parties or only to Tesla's own repair agency. There are
huge swathes of parts that third party repair shops can't get, and
can only source from breaker yards
Aren't we straying into monopoly territory here ?
Maybe. They hide behind a safety argument. I'd be interested to hear an opinion from m'learned friends.
Like charging points that nobody else can use?
They built the charging points, so it's up to them who they allow to use them.
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