• 3D Printers

    From Brian@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 10 12:04:04 2023
    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    I ask as, from time to time, I see designs with files supplied which
    which would be quite useful- the latest is a neat 'extension' to allow
    the cover to fit on a car fuse box when uses those fuse 'add a circuit'
    fuse holders.

    I don't think I'd use a 3D printer enough to justify buying one but I'm
    sure I could find someone with one who would run off the odd project for
    me, in return for a another favour or payment etc.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Dec 10 13:06:02 2023
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Brian wrote:

    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    Most slicers will take in models in STL format and render them as
    G-code, but the G-code will be for a specific printer.

    The source file formats for the design are typically specific to the 3D
    design software, which can then output STL. STL is a bit like the 'PDF' of
    3D printing. It's easy to view but awkward to edit - you'd really prefer to edit the source file (a Word doc in this analogy). Then the slicer is the equivalent of the HP printer driver that generates whatever G-codes your particular printer speaks, with your chosen settings for this job (like
    print double sided or colour or whatever).

    Theo

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian on Sun Dec 10 12:23:32 2023
    Brian wrote:

    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    Most slicers will take in models in STL format and render them as
    G-code, but the G-code will be for a specific printer.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Theo on Sun Dec 10 13:15:22 2023
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Brian wrote:

    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    Most slicers will take in models in STL format and render them as
    G-code, but the G-code will be for a specific printer.

    The source file formats for the design are typically specific to the 3D design software, which can then output STL. STL is a bit like the 'PDF' of 3D printing. It's easy to view but awkward to edit - you'd really prefer to edit the source file (a Word doc in this analogy). Then the slicer is the equivalent of the HP printer driver that generates whatever G-codes your particular printer speaks, with your chosen settings for this job (like
    print double sided or colour or whatever).

    Theo


    Thank you both.

    I’ve found a local company which offers a prototyping service and uploaded the files. I can’t believe how cheap they are for one offs. True, the parts aren’t large or complex, essentially two boxes without tops or bottoms ( ie just sides) about 15 cm by 2 cm at an estimate which clip together.

    The price, under £2 each - although that is in the cheapest material.

    The files I downloaded, which were made available to people to use etc, are indeed Stl files.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Brian on Sun Dec 10 14:51:03 2023
    On 10/12/2023 12:04, Brian wrote:

    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    I ask as, from time to time, I see designs with files supplied which
    which would be quite useful- the latest is a neat 'extension' to allow
    the cover to fit on a car fuse box when uses those fuse 'add a circuit'
    fuse holders.

    I don't think I'd use a 3D printer enough to justify buying one but I'm
    sure I could find someone with one who would run off the odd project for
    me, in return for a another favour or payment etc.

    More or less.

    My mate who does 3D for me accepts .STL fiiles, (STereoLithography, I
    think) which are huge mathematical descriptions of polygonal surfaces. A
    solid object is simply a closed surface. It is essentially a series of
    X,Y, Z points that define the surface.

    That gets sent to a piece of software - freeware in fact - that
    generates 'slices' exactly one plastic layer thick, in another file
    format. That is what the printer uses to actually spit out the hotSnot.
    So *that* software needs the printers parameters feeding in. Its output
    is simply a file that you can stick on a pen drive and plug into he
    printer. At the most basic level anyway.


    My actual CAD is done in a completely incompatible format using a
    different mathematical description, but fortunately it has the ability
    to turn that into polygonal meshes and export those via the STL format.

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    ― Leo Tolstoy

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Brian on Mon Dec 11 09:59:13 2023
    On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:15:22 -0000 (UTC)
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:

    Thank you both.

    I’ve found a local company which offers a prototyping service and
    uploaded the files. I can’t believe how cheap they are for one offs.
    True, the parts aren’t large or complex, essentially two boxes
    without tops or bottoms ( ie just sides) about 15 cm by 2 cm at an
    estimate which clip together.

    The price, under £2 each - although that is in the cheapest material.

    That amazes me, not having needed any 3-D printed parts. I would never
    have thought that something that, not long ago, was a new concept,
    could be so cheap so soon. I might just investigate this.
    I recently looked at the prices of the printers in my latest CPC
    catalogue, out of interest, and again I could not believe how cheap they
    are.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Brian on Mon Dec 11 12:28:52 2023
    On 10/12/2023 13:15, Brian wrote:
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Brian wrote:

    Are the file formats for 3D printers standard, please?

    Most slicers will take in models in STL format and render them as
    G-code, but the G-code will be for a specific printer.

    The source file formats for the design are typically specific to the 3D
    design software, which can then output STL. STL is a bit like the 'PDF' of >> 3D printing. It's easy to view but awkward to edit - you'd really prefer to >> edit the source file (a Word doc in this analogy). Then the slicer is the >> equivalent of the HP printer driver that generates whatever G-codes your
    particular printer speaks, with your chosen settings for this job (like
    print double sided or colour or whatever).

    Theo


    Thank you both.

    I’ve found a local company which offers a prototyping service and uploaded the files. I can’t believe how cheap they are for one offs. True, the parts aren’t large or complex, essentially two boxes without tops or bottoms ( ie just sides) about 15 cm by 2 cm at an estimate which clip together.

    The price, under £2 each - although that is in the cheapest material.

    The files I downloaded, which were made available to people to use etc, are indeed Stl files.


    Can you tell us whom you are using, please?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid on Mon Dec 11 12:47:52 2023
    GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote:
    Can you tell us whom you are using, please?

    I've used jlcpcb.com who are in a similar ballpark, but in China. I'd be interested to know of UK suppliers.

    Theo
    (whose 3D printer is currently broken and have been ordering 3D printed
    parts to upgrade it)

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