A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a lot of plastic under there.
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a lot of plastic under there.
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs
sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's >> no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a >> lot of plastic under there.
Chances are you need to use an impact tool. If you don’t have one, a good fitting socket with a T bar and a firm ‘tap’ with a hammer.
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs
sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's >> no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a >> lot of plastic under there.
Chances are you need to use an impact tool. If you don’t have one, a good fitting socket with a T bar and a firm ‘tap’ with a hammer.
Lump hammer and shock it off. Spanner/socket on the nut then hit other
end of the spanner or ratchet bar with the lump hammer.
Stop the blade from turning with a lump of wood wedged in the deck.
If it's a petrol mower first remove the spark plug lead
On 12/04/2024 17:55, Brian wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:Just lock the blades up using anything that comes to hand - wood
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >>> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).Chances are you need to use an impact tool. If you don’t have one,
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs >>> sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >>> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's
no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >>> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there.
a good
fitting socket with a T bar and a firm ‘tap’ with a hammer.
blocks, mole grips, etc. and use serious long bar torque. I mean a 3ft
long bar - hire but or borrow Also get it red hot with a blowtorch and
douse in penetrating oil overnight
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a lot of plastic under there.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a >lot of plastic under there.
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs
sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's >> no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a >> lot of plastic under there.
Are you certain it isn’t a reverse thread? I cheap electric impact driver is great for jobs like these.
Tim
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs
sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's >> no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a >> lot of plastic under there.
Are you certain it isn’t a reverse thread? I cheap electric impact driver is great for jobs like these.
On 12/04/2024 17:55, Brian wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It
probably has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old
at least). The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the
spare I have) needs sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using
steel handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with
my size 13. He moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so
that there's no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might
shear off, although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using
a torch but there's a lot of plastic under there.
Chances are you need to use an impact tool. If you don’t have one,
a good fitting socket with a T bar and a firm ‘tap’ with a hammer.
Just lock the blades up using anything that comes to hand - wood
blocks, mole grips, etc. and use serious long bar torque. I mean a
3ft long bar
- hire but or borrow Also get it red hot with a blowtorch and douse
in penetrating oil overnight
On 13/04/2024 07:24, Tim+ wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >>> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).Are you certain it isn’t a reverse thread? I cheap electric
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs >>> sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >>> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's
no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >>> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there.
impact driver
is great for jobs like these.
I was thinking the same. I've been caught out before. Many rotary
mowers are intended to spin in a specific direction that deposits
clippings to one side. I'm pretty sure the couple I have dealt with
have been ordinary RH threads.
Only the OP will know if the bolt moved in the attempt to undo the
bolt. If it did and then wouldn't move any more I'd be tempted to
'tighten' the bolt to see if it moves and undoes.
On 13/04/2024 07:24, Tim+ wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably >>> has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs >>> sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >>> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's
no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off, >>> although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there.
Are you certain it isn¢t a reverse thread? I cheap electric impact driver >> is great for jobs like these.
I was thinking the same. I've been caught out before. Many rotary mowers
are intended to spin in a specific direction that deposits clippings to
one side. I'm pretty sure the couple I have dealt with have been
ordinary RH threads.
Only the OP will know if the bolt moved in the attempt to undo the bolt.
If it did and then wouldn't move any more I'd be tempted to 'tighten'
the bolt to see if it moves and undoes.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 12:37:44 +0100, Fredxx wrote:
On 13/04/2024 07:24, Tim+ wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It
probably has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at
least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have)
needs sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size
13. He moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that
there's no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might
shear off, although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a
torch but there's a lot of plastic under there.
Are you certain it isnʼt a reverse thread? I cheap electric impact
driver is great for jobs like these.
I was thinking the same. I've been caught out before. Many rotary
mowers are intended to spin in a specific direction that deposits
clippings to one side. I'm pretty sure the couple I have dealt with
have been ordinary RH threads.
Only the OP will know if the bolt moved in the attempt to undo the
bolt.
If it did and then wouldn't move any more I'd be tempted to 'tighten'
the bolt to see if it moves and undoes.
Right, sorry about no model but it's very similar to my still broken one (coil poss. but getting help to check for spark is difficult as it needs strength and some skill, which most seem to lack!).
I always remove the cap from the plug - I don't want to 'bump start' it!
The bolts are RH thread.
Hammer, with as much preload as I can manage, tried with sharp blows.
One undid; the other didn't move at all.
I can try a torch (got 2 'asbestos' mats) but not too hot, then put oil
on to cool it and, hopefully, the oil will be 'sucked' in.
Tyre place - getting something that size on the bus...
Now, impact driver. Seems best but I don't have the fittings to get from
6mm hex to 3/8" square - the hex stem sockets stop 1mm short. Been
looking but can't see anything.
Now, impact driver. Seems best but I don't have the fittings to get from
6mm hex to 3/8" square - the hex stem sockets stop 1mm short. Been
looking but can't see anything.
Is this the kind of thing? <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Impact-Socket-Adapter-Extension-Driver/dp/ B077KT6239/?th=1>
It should certainly work in a cordless drill with an SDS setting.
Not sure where my set is at the moment so I can't immediately check with
my impact driver.
On Sat, 13 Apr 2024 12:37:44 +0100, Fredxx wrote:
On 13/04/2024 07:24, Tim+ wrote:
PeterC <giraffenos.pam@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
A friend 'obtained' for me a self-propelled Honda petrol mower. It probably
has never been serviced and is, at a guess, 5 years old at least).
The blade (rather annoyingly an inch longer than the spare I have) needs >>>> sharpening, to be polite about it.
I couldn't move either bolt, even with about 18" leverage using steel
handlebars. My neighbour tried whilst I held the blade with my size 13. He >>>> moved one but the other wouldn't budge.
I might get a better quality 14mm socket, file the end of it so that there's
no lead-in and it sits right down.
Any suggestions for moving it, please. I'm worried that it might shear off,
although I hope it's 8.8 steel. I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there.
Are you certain it isn¢t a reverse thread? I cheap electric impact driver >>> is great for jobs like these.
I was thinking the same. I've been caught out before. Many rotary mowers
are intended to spin in a specific direction that deposits clippings to
one side. I'm pretty sure the couple I have dealt with have been
ordinary RH threads.
Only the OP will know if the bolt moved in the attempt to undo the bolt.
If it did and then wouldn't move any more I'd be tempted to 'tighten'
the bolt to see if it moves and undoes.
Right, sorry about no model but it's very similar to my still broken one (coil poss. but getting help to check for spark is difficult as it needs strength and some skill, which most seem to lack!).
I always remove the cap from the plug - I don't want to 'bump start' it!
The bolts are RH thread.
Hammer, with as much preload as I can manage, tried with sharp blows.
One undid; the other didn't move at all.
I can try a torch (got 2 'asbestos' mats) but not too hot, then put oil on
to cool it and, hopefully, the oil will be 'sucked' in.
Tyre place - getting something that size on the bus...
Now, impact driver. Seems best but I don't have the fittings to get from 6mm hex to 3/8" square - the hex stem sockets stop 1mm short. Been looking but can't see anything.
Note his final sentence:
" I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there."
Not a pretty sight if that catches fire.
On 13/04/2024 13:36, Davey wrote:
Note his final sentence:
" I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there."
Not a pretty sight if that catches fire.
Heat up a sacrificial socket to red heat, then put it on the bolt head
to transfer it heat to the bolt.
On 14/04/2024 21:58, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:the bolt again!
On 13/04/2024 13:36, Davey wrote:
Note his final sentence:
" I wondered about using a torch but there's a
lot of plastic under there."
Not a pretty sight if that catches fire.
Heat up a sacrificial socket to red heat, then put it on the bolt head
to transfer it heat to the bolt.
Heating up the bolt will cause it to expand and grip whatever it's in even tighter. You need to heat up the bolt then pour ice-cold water on it in the hope that it'll contract away from whatever it's in faster than whatever it's in contracts to grip
On 13 Apr 2024 18:30:42 GMT, David wrote:
Now, impact driver. Seems best but I don't have the fittings to get from >>> 6mm hex to 3/8" square - the hex stem sockets stop 1mm short. Been
looking but can't see anything.
Is this the kind of thing?
<https://www.amazon.co.uk/Impact-Socket-Adapter-Extension-Driver/dp/
B077KT6239/?th=1>
It should certainly work in a cordless drill with an SDS setting.
Not sure where my set is at the moment so I can't immediately check with
my impact driver.
Thanks - ordered adaptors and an impact socket
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