• Pikeys starting young ?

    From Andrew@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 14:08:27 2024
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Mar 10 17:45:04 2024
    In article <92rruidl444pt2tnoch5ldkjv3blhss2no@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    Round here, a few years ago, 2 young people were killed when the Volvo
    Estate they were in hit a tree. It was all the fault of the road, despite
    the victims were both under the legal age to drive a car - and had just set
    off from a travelling community site.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Tim Lamb@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Sun Mar 10 17:50:57 2024
    In message <92rruidl444pt2tnoch5ldkjv3blhss2no@4ax.com>, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> writes
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driv >>ing-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    :-)

    Pointed out elsewhere that the police were a bit slow in not realising
    the lad was probably following a vehicle driven by a father or uncle.

    --
    Tim Lamb

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 17:24:02 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 00:00:43 2024
    On Sun, 10 Mar 24 17:45:04 UTC, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
    wrote:

    In article <92rruidl444pt2tnoch5ldkjv3blhss2no@4ax.com>,
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    Round here, a few years ago, 2 young people were killed when the Volvo
    Estate they were in hit a tree. It was all the fault of the road, despite
    the victims were both under the legal age to drive a car - and had just set >off from a travelling community site.

    Indeed. And it may not *all* have been the fault of the road. Everyone
    knows that Volvos are very unsafe cars.

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 15:32:26 2024
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Handsome Jack@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Mon Mar 11 15:40:21 2024
    Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016.

    No ...

    Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    The traditional reply to this traditional point is "We have plenty
    of scrotes of our own. We can do without having yours as well."

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Mon Mar 11 15:38:40 2024
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    own lot? Where do you think travellers come from?

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  • From The Hanging Baskets of Babylon@21:1/5 to Andrew on Mon Mar 11 15:46:23 2024
    Andrew wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    Victims. Cultural Relativism. Or something.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Mon Mar 11 16:45:39 2024
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.



    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 17:44:34 2024
    Am 11/03/2024 um 16:45 schrieb alan_m:
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    I blame the EU!

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    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 11 17:42:42 2024
    Am 11/03/2024 um 15:38 schrieb Pancho:
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    own lot? Where do you think travellers come from?

    Southend on Sea.

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to junk@admac.myzen.co.uk on Mon Mar 11 18:19:17 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:45:39 +0000
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew
    <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for
    boys to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer
    from your post that you're calling this out, and are therefore
    discriminating against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have
    a problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    At least twice that. Before I was born, three schools were built on a
    site which had been a long-term gypsy encampment when my mother was a
    child.

    --
    Joe

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Joe on Mon Mar 11 19:01:28 2024
    On 11/03/2024 18:19, Joe wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:45:39 +0000
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew
    <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for
    boys to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer
    from your post that you're calling this out, and are therefore
    discriminating against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have
    a problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    At least twice that. Before I was born, three schools were built on a
    site which had been a long-term gypsy encampment when my mother was a
    child.


    Much, much, longer than that. Irish travellers in England can be dated
    back to the 12th century, while the first record of Romany Gypsies is in
    1515.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Mon Mar 11 22:06:23 2024
    On 11/03/2024 17:44, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 11/03/2024 um 16:45 schrieb alan_m:
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    I blame the EU!

    Yes and no. Many of them do come from an EU country, but as that country
    is Ireland, the Common Travel Area still allows free movement.

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 12 09:10:29 2024
    Am 11/03/2024 um 22:06 schrieb SteveW:
    On 11/03/2024 17:44, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 11/03/2024 um 16:45 schrieb alan_m:
    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> >>>>> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys >>>>> to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer from your >>>>> post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have a
    problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    I blame the EU!

    Yes and no. Many of them do come from an EU country, but as that country
    is Ireland, the Common Travel Area still allows free movement.


    So it's 100% a no, then. These are your people, not mine.

    --
    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Joe on Tue Mar 12 21:51:38 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 18:19:17 +0000, Joe <joe@jretrading.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:45:39 +0000
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew
    <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for
    boys to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer
    from your post that you're calling this out, and are therefore
    discriminating against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have
    a problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    At least twice that. Before I was born, three schools were built on a
    site which had been a long-term gypsy encampment when my mother was a
    child.

    And they'd pull knives on any English people who inadvertantly
    trespassed on 'their land' so not much has changed since they were
    admitted. Britain: open to the whole world's riff-raff.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk on Tue Mar 12 21:52:46 2024
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 19:01:28 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 18:19, Joe wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:45:39 +0000
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew
    <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for
    boys to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer
    from your post that you're calling this out, and are therefore
    discriminating against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have
    a problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    At least twice that. Before I was born, three schools were built on a
    site which had been a long-term gypsy encampment when my mother was a
    child.


    Much, much, longer than that. Irish travellers in England can be dated
    back to the 12th century, while the first record of Romany Gypsies is in >1515.

    Not in England. 1930s was the BIG influx of gypsies in England.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Soup on Tue Mar 12 21:54:06 2024
    On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 07:45:48 +0000, Soup <cheez2011@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 10/03/2024 17:24, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1

    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for boys
    to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11. I infer from your
    post that you're calling this out, and are therefore discriminating
    against travelling people. Shame on you.


    Now see, sarcasm does not come over very well in text.

    Oh, I think they got the point.

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Mar 12 22:50:34 2024
    On 12/03/2024 21:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 19:01:28 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 18:19, Joe wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:45:39 +0000
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 11/03/2024 15:32, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Am 10/03/2024 um 17:24 schrieb Cursitor Doom:
    On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 14:08:27 +0000, Andrew
    <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/08/police-stop-boy-11-driving-bmw-towing-caravan-along-m1


    You're obviously a racist. It's normal in traveller culture for
    boys to drive stolen caravans around at the age of 11.  I infer
    from your post that you're calling this out, and are therefore
    discriminating against travelling people. Shame on you.

    You lot blamed it all on us fecking Euros circa 2016. Now you have
    a problem with your own lot? What gives?


    "Travellers" have been a problem in the UK for 50 years or more.




    At least twice that. Before I was born, three schools were built on a
    site which had been a long-term gypsy encampment when my mother was a
    child.


    Much, much, longer than that. Irish travellers in England can be dated
    back to the 12th century, while the first record of Romany Gypsies is in
    1515.

    Not in England. 1930s was the BIG influx of gypsies in England.

    Lots fleeing the Nazis around that time, but there is a reason for the
    name of Gypsy Hill in Surrey, and Samuel Pepys records visiting the
    encampments in that area.


    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From S Viemeister@21:1/5 to Colin Bignell on Wed Mar 13 01:56:39 2024
    On 12/03/2024 22:50, Colin Bignell wrote:
    On 12/03/2024 21:52, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 11 Mar 2024 19:01:28 +0000, Colin Bignell

    Much, much, longer than that. Irish travellers in England can be dated
    back to the 12th century, while the first record of Romany Gypsies is in >>> 1515.

    Not in England. 1930s was the BIG influx of gypsies in England.

    Lots fleeing the Nazis around that time, but there is a reason for the
    name of Gypsy Hill in Surrey, and Samuel Pepys records visiting the encampments in that area.

    Lots of old folk songs mention gypsies.

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