• OT: Duracell leakage

    From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 15:45:11 2024
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Feb 18 18:17:22 2024
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Are you sure they are / were genuine Duracell batteries?

    I used to used Kirkland batteries ( CostCo own brand) but they seem
    especially bad for leakage in my experience.

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Feb 18 18:24:16 2024
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a “quality” brand but they do seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as it’s possible that it’s just the brand that I’ve bought most of but I’ve come across some really old non-Duracell batteries that haven’t leaked.

    Tim

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Brian on Sun Feb 18 18:26:46 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:

    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is
    commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Are you sure they are / were genuine Duracell batteries?

    I used to used Kirkland batteries ( CostCo own brand) but they seem >especially bad for leakage in my experience.

    I had thought leaking batteries were a thing of the past, but had this
    issue with an aluminium torch. The seapage got between the threads of
    the cap where it screws in to hold the batteries and has welded it
    solid. I cannot get the cap off. I've tried putting the body of the
    torch in a vice and using a strap wrench (normally used for oil
    filters) on the cap, but it will *not* budge!
    I'd really like to get it off so I can see which battery manufacturer
    is the culprit.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Sun Feb 18 21:04:14 2024
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a “quality” brand but they do seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as it’s possible that it’s just the brand that I’ve bought most of but I’ve come across some really old non-Duracell batteries that haven’t leaked.

    I think it's got passed around the houses - first Proctor and Gamble, now Berkshire Hathaway. It does seem to still be a separate company, not just a brand slapped on random Chinese batteries. But personally I don't rate them very highly and wouldn't pay a premium for them.

    (There's also Duracell branded products like phone chargers which likely are their brand slapped on stuff made by others)

    Theo

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 21:07:14 2024
    On 18/02/2024 18:24, Tim+ wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is
    commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a “quality” brand but they do seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as it’s possible that it’s just the brand that I’ve bought most of but I’ve come across some really old non-Duracell batteries that haven’t leaked.

    Tim


    Duracell batteries, especially AA and AAA, are guaranteed to leak. I
    stopped using them a long time ago because of this problem.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk on Sun Feb 18 21:08:41 2024
    On 18 Feb 2024 21:04:14 +0000 (GMT), Theo
    <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is
    commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a quality brand but they do
    seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as its possible that its
    just the brand that Ive bought most of but Ive come across some really
    old non-Duracell batteries that havent leaked.

    I think it's got passed around the houses - first Proctor and Gamble, now >Berkshire Hathaway. It does seem to still be a separate company, not just a >brand slapped on random Chinese batteries. But personally I don't rate them >very highly and wouldn't pay a premium for them.

    (There's also Duracell branded products like phone chargers which likely are >their brand slapped on stuff made by others)

    The ones we get are from Belgium (usually) but the OEM ones are made
    in China with a 'not for retail sale' warning. I have not worked out
    whether this means they are not as good or if there is another reason
    such as import duty.

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  • From Bob Eager@21:1/5 to Brian on Sun Feb 18 21:56:42 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:17:22 +0000, Brian wrote:

    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is
    commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Are you sure they are / were genuine Duracell batteries?

    I used to used Kirkland batteries ( CostCo own brand) but they seem especially bad for leakage in my experience.

    Oh, they are genuine. This is widespread.

    They're known as Duraleak these days.



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  • From Robert@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Feb 18 21:19:03 2024
    On 18/02/2024 15:45, Scott wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.
    The white stuff is water soluble , I use a old toothbrush dipped in
    water to remove then contact cleaner or IPA.
    Get a lot of this in the Charity Shop where I check donated tech items,
    modern contacts seem to survive, interesting vintage stuff contacts
    rust and disappear.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 19 09:36:36 2024
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 21:07:14 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2024 18:24, Tim+ wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is
    commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee
    still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using
    a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a quality brand but they do
    seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as its possible that its
    just the brand that Ive bought most of but Ive come across some really
    old non-Duracell batteries that havent leaked.

    Tim

    Duracell batteries, especially AA and AAA, are guaranteed to leak. I
    stopped using them a long time ago because of this problem.

    Has the composition changed?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Scott on Mon Feb 19 05:33:52 2024
    On 2/19/2024 4:36 AM, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 21:07:14 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2024 18:24, Tim+ wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment
    damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is >>>> commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee >>>> still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using >>>> a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a “quality” brand but they do
    seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as it’s possible that it’s >>> just the brand that I’ve bought most of but I’ve come across some really
    old non-Duracell batteries that haven’t leaked.

    Tim

    Duracell batteries, especially AA and AAA, are guaranteed to leak. I
    stopped using them a long time ago because of this problem.

    Has the composition changed?


    The behavior of Duracell products, has been consistent for a long long time.

    It boggles the mind, why they don't do something about it.

    What is hard to determine, is whether we are seeing the work of the
    original company or not. Duracell offered its name, for branding bodges
    (the Duracell USB sticks, which are not made by Duracell), and you
    have to wonder what kind of company is behind the manufacture of the
    cells.

    If other companies can make cells that don't leak and are 10 years
    past their best-before date, then Duracell can do that too.

    Most companies would have a "continuous improvement" policy,
    examining field results and attempting to improve on them.

    I've done a couple sweeps of the house, and I think I've collected
    all the Duracell I could find.

    Paul

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Feb 19 10:49:32 2024
    On 19/02/2024 10:33, Paul wrote:
    On 2/19/2024 4:36 AM, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 21:07:14 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
    wrote:

    On 18/02/2024 18:24, Tim+ wrote:
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    Once upon a time, Duracell used to guarantee to replace any equipment >>>>> damaged by leakage from a Duracell battery. Now I find that leakage is >>>>> commonplace if the battery is left for a long time. Does the guarantee >>>>> still apply? That said, I have not recently known anything to be
    damaged as the deposit seems to be a white powder easily removed using >>>>> a screwdriver.


    Used to be my impression that Duracell was a “quality” brand but they do
    seem to leak a lot these days. Hard to tell as it’s possible that it’s
    just the brand that I’ve bought most of but I’ve come across some really
    old non-Duracell batteries that haven’t leaked.

    Tim

    Duracell batteries, especially AA and AAA, are guaranteed to leak. I
    stopped using them a long time ago because of this problem.

    Has the composition changed?


    The behavior of Duracell products, has been consistent for a long long time.

    "Duracell Inc. is an American manufacturer of alkaline batteries,
    specialty cells, and rechargeables; it is a wholly owned subsidiary of Berkshire Hathaway."


    The behaviour of Berkshire Hathaway is also consistent. Ask how Moodys
    came to rate subprime mortgages and icelandic banks as AAA.


    It boggles the mind, why they don't do something about it.

    What is hard to determine, is whether we are seeing the work of the
    original company or not.

    Triggers broom. Corporately and legally it is still the same company.

    Duracell offered its name, for branding bodges
    (the Duracell USB sticks, which are not made by Duracell), and you
    have to wonder what kind of company is behind the manufacture of the
    cells.

    If other companies can make cells that don't leak and are 10 years
    past their best-before date, then Duracell can do that too.

    But why bother making good sells when spending money on wanking rabbits
    that never come to orgasm is cheaper.

    Most companies would have a "continuous improvement" policy,
    examining field results and attempting to improve on them.


    Bless!
    Most companies today have a manufacturing cost reduction budget with
    the saving spent on marketing an inferior product.

    I've done a couple sweeps of the house, and I think I've collected
    all the Duracell I could find.

    Dustbin of history.

    They work OK for me in my mice and keyboards.
    I don't think I have much that goes flat and stays flat for years
    anyway, which is usually the killer


    Paul

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