• Ferranti Argus 700 Restored

    From mail-veil@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 12 06:17:36 2016
    The Bloodhound Missile Preservation Group that I belong to had a very successful 2015 as this was the year that we eventually achieved a
    serviceable and reliable simulator in our Launch Control Post (LCP).
    This was mainly due to the restoration of the Ferranti Argus 700
    computer, all the Argus I/O and the display console, plus getting the
    audio Doppler working.

    Since then we have been hard at work restoring the outside of the LCP
    and our Type 86 radar cabins and there is much more to do but a bit
    boring for showing what we are doing.

    To liven things up a bit our team member Pete Murray has produced four
    videos describing and showing the system in operation. These are now
    on YouTube and. I hope you will watch the videos and please share the
    link to get us known more.

    Our web site: http://www.bmpg.org.uk/
    Our YouTube Channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOW9gd-tJqdqwvWQRaZ1FTw
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BloodhoundMissilePreservationGroup/

    If you worked with the Ferranti Argus 700 at anytime we would be
    delighted to hear from you.

    Mike

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to mail-veil@btinternet.com on Sun Jun 12 18:02:08 2016
    On 12/06/2016 06:17, mail-veil@btinternet.com wrote:
    Our web site: http://www.bmpg.org.uk/

    I had a little look. Apparently you've done nothing since last autumn...

    I'd like to see more about a computer that just pre-dates me.

    Andy

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to mail-veil@btinternet.com on Mon Jun 13 21:03:25 2016
    On 13/06/2016 10:43, mail-veil@btinternet.com wrote:
    Hope that gives you greater confidence that we are not sitting on our
    rear ends doing nothing.

    I didn't think you were. I assumed (as you've just shown) that the web
    site had fallen down the cracks.

    Thanks

    Andy

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Vir Campestris on Sun Jun 12 19:44:50 2016
    Vir Campestris wrote:

    mail-veil@btinternet.com wrote:

    http://www.bmpg.org.uk/

    I had a little look. Apparently you've done nothing since last autumn...

    There are some recent Youtube videos.

    I'd like to see more about a computer that just pre-dates me.

    What they're restored is the revamped version from the 80's not the
    original control system from the 60's

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  • From mail-veil@btinternet.com@21:1/5 to vir.campestris@invalid.invalid on Mon Jun 13 10:43:17 2016
    On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:02:08 +0100, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 12/06/2016 06:17, mail-veil@btinternet.com wrote:
    Our web site: http://www.bmpg.org.uk/

    I had a little look. Apparently you've done nothing since last autumn...

    I'd like to see more about a computer that just pre-dates me.

    Andy

    I take your point Andy; I have not maintained records of our work on
    the web site; most remiss of me and all down to other personal
    demands.

    Two key items have been working on the reliability of the performance
    of the system and developing a Compact Flash card replacement for the Winchester disk which was the one item that put our entire system at
    risk as we had only one drive left of this almost unobtainable
    component. The major reliability problems were entirely down to
    corrosion as the LCP had been left in a field with the door open
    adjacent to the computer rack so a great deal of strip down, cleaning
    and proofing was undertaken. As I said in my message we have been concentrating on preparation of the cabins for exhibition involving a
    huge amount of paint stripping and rectification of corrosion; topics
    which tend not to be attention grabbing.

    I will make the effort to document more of what we have done on the
    web site and exhibit photographs of the Argus 700 and the associated peripherals. Our next objective is to develop a replacement for the
    tape drive as the cassette drive belts are very unreliable as is the
    capstan in the tape machine itself.

    The two drives involved with this system are:

    Originally the hard drive was a CDC Wren 1 Model 9415-3 (FINCH
    Interface).
    There is a CDC Wren 1 9415-5 model which has a Seagate Interface,
    this is not used on our Argus 700. The Wren 1 is lifed at 20,000 Hrs
    or 5 years. We are certainly well over the 5 years and head crashes
    have been the cause of failures of the spare drives we did manage to
    obtain.

    We later incorporated a SCSI ST31200N system developed by Syseca which
    was unique to the Swiss at BL-64 museum and we developed it to work
    with the ex-RAF equipment. We now have a CF card system developed in conjunction with PeripheralVision: http://www.peripheral-vision.com/products/scsi-to-compact-flash/ .


    The tape system uses a Cipher Quarterback, Model F420-90, 90IPS, 20MB,
    8.0 using QIC-02 tapes.

    Work on the overall kit can only take place on a Saturday so progress
    is slow. We are fortunate to have an off-line Argus 700 test rig at
    the house one of the BMPG members and the computer development is
    almost entirely his work.

    We are working from personal funding with no grants and no commercial
    support so again we are constrained from that angle but at least we
    have saved the system which is unique in UK. The only other working
    kit is in Switzerland and the only other LCP is rotting away at the
    Imperial War Museum, Duxford which is an utter disgrace for our
    national museum to treat it with such disregard (my moan for the
    day!).

    Hope that gives you greater confidence that we are not sitting on our
    rear ends doing nothing.

    Mike

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  • From biancashouse@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mail...@btinternet.com on Thu Jun 20 06:14:59 2019
    On Sunday, 12 June 2016 15:17:37 UTC+10, mail...@btinternet.com wrote:
    The Bloodhound Missile Preservation Group that I belong to had a very successful 2015 as this was the year that we eventually achieved a serviceable and reliable simulator in our Launch Control Post (LCP).
    This was mainly due to the restoration of the Ferranti Argus 700
    computer, all the Argus I/O and the display console, plus getting the
    audio Doppler working.

    Since then we have been hard at work restoring the outside of the LCP
    and our Type 86 radar cabins and there is much more to do but a bit
    boring for showing what we are doing.

    To liven things up a bit our team member Pete Murray has produced four
    videos describing and showing the system in operation. These are now
    on YouTube and. I hope you will watch the videos and please share the
    link to get us known more.

    Our web site: http://www.bmpg.org.uk/
    Our YouTube Channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOW9gd-tJqdqwvWQRaZ1FTw
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BloodhoundMissilePreservationGroup/

    If you worked with the Ferranti Argus 700 at anytime we would be
    delighted to hear from you.

    Mike

    I was a s/w contractor on the Argus 700 for Ferranti, Wythenshaw in the early 80s.
    They sent me, with a h/w engineer, to Dahran, to sit in the flying wing and provide support in case of any teething troubles with their air defence screen, powered by the Argus 700.

    This 15 million pound computer was supposed to run 24x7, but every night, a guy called Major Hani would turn the thing off when he went home early evening.

    I stumbled upon this subject while looking for marketing material for an app I just got round to writing. I have reinvented the flowchart. Actually, I reinvented it all those years ago, but last year I realised no one had thought about this since the 80s.
    So over 30 year later I will be giving the world a new flowchart standard and a free app to accompany it...

    Ian, Sydney
    (Worked at BT Martlesham for 10 years in the 80-90s.

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