• The Micro Museum, Ramsgate.

    From Wm@21:1/5 to Stephen Cole on Thu Aug 29 12:24:09 2019
    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/

    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle >> of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate
    delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding >> back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next
    Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.

    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery exhibition is Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

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  • From Folderol@21:1/5 to wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk on Thu Aug 29 14:02:42 2019
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 12:24:09 +0100
    Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/ >>>
    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle >>> of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate >>> delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding >>> back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next >>> Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.

    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery exhibition is >> Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Doesn't mean people aren't watching it.

    --
    W J G

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 16:34:55 2019
    In message <qk8ckt$lrb$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/ >>>
    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle >>> of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate >>> delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding >>> back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next >>> Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.
    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery
    exhibition is
    Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy


    But not totally unread.
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From Huge@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 18:58:34 2019
    In message <qk8ckt$lrb$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/ >>>>
    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle
    of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate >>>> delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding >>>> back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next >>>> Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.
    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery
    exhibition is
    Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Still ably justifying your killfile entry, I see. Besides, what the
    fuck has it got to do with you?




    --
    Today is Sweetmorn, the 22nd day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3185
    Rising above bedlam

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to Huge on Fri Aug 30 10:49:43 2019
    On 29/08/2019 19:58, Huge wrote:
    In message <qk8ckt$lrb$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/ >>>>>
    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle
    of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate >>>>> delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding
    back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next >>>>> Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.
    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery
    exhibition is
    Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Still ably justifying your killfile entry, I see.

    Apparently not, you replied.

    Besides, what the
    fuck has it got to do with you?

    STC has often said which groups he thinks ought to exist and ought not
    to exist.

    --
    Wm

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to John Hall on Fri Aug 30 10:52:54 2019
    On 29/08/2019 16:34, John Hall wrote:


    But not totally unread.

    Does anyone know where the conversation has moved too?

    --
    Wm

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to Huge on Fri Aug 30 13:38:14 2019
    On 29/08/2019 19:58, Huge wrote:
    In message <qk8ckt$lrb$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 27/08/2019 06:20, Stephen Cole wrote:
    Stephen Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> wrote:
    I visited The Micro Museum in Ramsgate today:

    https://www.vintageapplemac.com/the-micro-museum-at-ramsgate-in-kent-uk/ >>>>>
    A neat little place to add to your list of days out, and bang in the middle
    of town too so easy to loop in with the beach, harbour and other Ramsgate >>>>> delights. Their Games Gallery area is closing next week (31st) and folding
    back into the main museum, so if you have time with the kids to kill next >>>>> Saturday or Sunday here’s your answer.
    Sorry, I meant Friday or Saturday! Last day of Games Gallery
    exhibition is
    Saturday 31st August.

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Still ably justifying your killfile entry, I see. Besides, what the
    fuck has it got to do with you?




    It has occurred to me that I don't know who Huge is, I don't recall him (probably, women tend not to call themselves that) having a positive or prominent posting record in this ng.

    So what?

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    Wm

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to Folderol on Fri Aug 30 13:32:30 2019
    On 29/08/2019 14:02, Folderol wrote:

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Doesn't mean people aren't watching it.


    I may be wrong but my records suggest we are looking at years rather
    than days or months since this group last had a good conversation.

    --
    Wm

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 30 16:44:01 2019
    In message <qkarlu$v12$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 29/08/2019 16:34, John Hall wrote:


    But not totally unread.

    Does anyone know where the conversation has moved too?


    Given the limited number of people interested in vintage computers, it
    may not have moved anywhere. I certainly don't recall ever seeing a
    "heads up" from anyone saying that they had created a forum for the
    subject. (And even forums seem to increasingly be viewed as being old
    hat nowadays, having largely given way to Facebook, Twitter and - most
    recently - Discord.)
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From Charles Lindsey@21:1/5 to John Hall on Fri Aug 30 17:21:01 2019
    On 30/08/2019 16:44, John Hall wrote:
    In message <qkarlu$v12$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk> writes
    On 29/08/2019 16:34, John Hall wrote:


    But not totally unread.

    Does anyone know where the conversation has moved too?


    Given the limited number of people interested in vintage computers, it may not
    have moved anywhere. I certainly don't recall ever seeing a "heads up" from anyone saying that they had created a forum for the subject. (And even forums seem to increasingly be viewed as being old hat nowadays, having largely given
    way to Facebook, Twitter and - most recently - Discord.)

    Well the Computer Conservation Society (www.computerconservationsociety.org) is very active in this area. Perhaps it should raise its head in here from time to time.

    --
    Charles H. Lindsey ---------At my New Home, still doing my own thing----------- Tel: +44 161 488 1845 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 40 SK8 5BF, U.K.
    PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5

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  • From Folderol@21:1/5 to Charles Lindsey on Fri Aug 30 18:43:07 2019
    On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 17:21:01 +0100
    Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> wrote:

    On 30/08/2019 16:44, John Hall wrote:
    In message <qkarlu$v12$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk> writes >>> On 29/08/2019 16:34, John Hall wrote:


    But not totally unread.

    Does anyone know where the conversation has moved too?


    Given the limited number of people interested in vintage computers, it may not
    have moved anywhere. I certainly don't recall ever seeing a "heads up" from >> anyone saying that they had created a forum for the subject. (And even forums
    seem to increasingly be viewed as being old hat nowadays, having largely given
    way to Facebook, Twitter and - most recently - Discord.)

    Well the Computer Conservation Society (www.computerconservationsociety.org) is
    very active in this area. Perhaps it should raise its head in here from time to
    time.

    I would think so. I'd never heard of them before!

    --
    W J G

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to Charles Lindsey on Sat Aug 31 10:41:09 2019
    In message <9f55d7ee-79b2-90e9-b439-017b428b3732@clerew.man.ac.uk>,
    Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> writes

    Well the Computer Conservation Society
    (www.computerconservationsociety.org) is very active in this area.
    Perhaps it should raise its head in here from time to time.

    Thanks for the link. I was interested to see under "Next Events":

    The History of ICL Revisited
    September 19th 2019 - London

    I might have gone to that, having used the ICL 1900 series and 2900
    series at work over many years, but unfortunately I'll be abroad on
    holiday.
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From Stephen Cole@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sat Aug 31 13:50:13 2019
    John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <qkarlu$v12$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 29/08/2019 16:34, John Hall wrote:


    But not totally unread.

    Does anyone know where the conversation has moved too?


    Given the limited number of people interested in vintage computers, it
    may not have moved anywhere. I certainly don't recall ever seeing a
    "heads up" from anyone saying that they had created a forum for the
    subject. (And even forums seem to increasingly be viewed as being old
    hat nowadays, having largely given way to Facebook, Twitter and - most recently - Discord.)

    I’m just starting to dip my toe into Discord; so far it seems to be a slightly fancier IRC. Twitter is *fantastic* for retrocomputing, there’s a few really good accounts with a lot of followers that generate excellent content.

    --
    M0TEY // STC
    www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur

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  • From Stephen Cole@21:1/5 to wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk on Sat Aug 31 13:50:13 2019
    Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
    On 29/08/2019 14:02, Folderol wrote:

    this group is largely unused, silly boy

    Doesn't mean people aren't watching it.


    I may be wrong but my records suggest we are looking at years rather
    than days or months since this group last had a good conversation.


    Then I have done the group a good turn in instigating this one! Cheers!

    --
    M0TEY // STC
    www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Sep 1 20:54:45 2019
    On 31/08/2019 10:41, John Hall wrote:

    Thanks for the link. I was interested to see under "Next Events":

    The History of ICL Revisited
    September 19th 2019 - London

    I might have gone to that, having used the ICL 1900 series and 2900
    series at work over many years, but unfortunately I'll be abroad on
    holiday.

    Damn. I'm tempted - but 14:30 in London basically means for me a whole
    day by the time I've got there.

    I started my career in ICL with 2900s with a meg or two of memory,
    running at most 1MIP. At the other end I now have machines that sit on
    my palm, have a gig or two of memory, and run in the gigahertz range...
    and yet some things are just the same.

    Andy

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to Vir Campestris on Mon Sep 2 14:03:37 2019
    On 01/09/2019 20:54, Vir Campestris wrote:
    On 31/08/2019 10:41, John Hall wrote:

    Thanks for the link. I was interested to see under "Next Events":

    The History of ICL Revisited
    September 19th 2019 - London

    I might have gone to that, having used the ICL 1900 series and 2900
    series at work over many years, but unfortunately I'll be abroad on
    holiday.

    Damn. I'm tempted - but 14:30 in London basically means for me a whole
    day by the time I've got there.


    there are other things to do in London and affordable accommodation if
    you plan ahead.

    Chas is firmly Manchester, I admire that, other people like the rest of
    the world.

    --
    Wm

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to Stephen Cole on Mon Sep 2 14:05:25 2019
    On 31/08/2019 14:50, Stephen Cole wrote:

    I’m just starting to dip my toe into Discord; so far it seems to be a slightly fancier IRC. Twitter is *fantastic* for retrocomputing, there’s a few really good accounts with a lot of followers that generate excellent content.


    Go back to where you came from

    --
    Wm

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  • From Wm@21:1/5 to John Hall on Mon Sep 2 13:59:03 2019
    On 31/08/2019 10:41, John Hall wrote:
    In message <9f55d7ee-79b2-90e9-b439-017b428b3732@clerew.man.ac.uk>,
    Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> writes

    Well the Computer Conservation Society
    (www.computerconservationsociety.org) is very active in this area.
    Perhaps it should raise its head in here from time to time.

    Thanks for the link. I was interested to see under "Next Events":

    The History of ICL Revisited
    September 19th 2019 - London

    I might have gone to that, having used the ICL 1900 series and 2900
    series at work over many years, but unfortunately I'll be abroad on
    holiday.

    *all* mag tape and punched cards are on holiday.

    --
    Wm

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 17:02:15 2019
    In message <qkj42r$a2r$2@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 31/08/2019 14:50, Stephen Cole wrote:

    I’m just starting to dip my toe into Discord; so far it seems to be a
    slightly fancier IRC. Twitter is *fantastic* for retrocomputing, there’s a >> few really good accounts with a lot of followers that generate excellent
    content.


    Go back to where you came from


    I didn't expect to find myself defending STC, but that seems
    unnecessarily confrontational given that his behaviour here has so far
    been beyond reproach.
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 16:52:07 2019
    In message <qkj3mu$80t$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes
    On 31/08/2019 10:41, John Hall wrote:
    In message <9f55d7ee-79b2-90e9-b439-017b428b3732@clerew.man.ac.uk>, >>Charles Lindsey <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> writes

    Well the Computer Conservation Society >>>(www.computerconservationsociety.org) is very active in this area. >>>Perhaps it should raise its head in here from time to time.

    Thanks for the link. I was interested to see under "Next Events":
    The History of ICL Revisited
    September 19th 2019 - London
    I might have gone to that, having used the ICL 1900 series and 2900 >>series at work over many years, but unfortunately I'll be abroad on >>holiday.

    *all* mag tape and punched cards are on holiday.


    I get much amusement from SF TV programmes and films made in the 1960s supposedly featuring computers from hundreds of years in the future. One
    always sees the computer occupying a large room, with banks of magnetic
    tape drives with tapes whirring round. I suppose it was an easy way of
    getting across to their audiences that what they were looking at was a computer.
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From Huge@21:1/5 to John Hall on Tue Sep 3 10:05:24 2019
    On 2019-09-02, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <qkj3mu$80t$1@dont-email.me>, Wm <wm_o_o_o@yahoo.co.uk>
    writes

    [snippage]

    *all* mag tape and punched cards are on holiday.


    I get much amusement from SF TV programmes and films made in the 1960s supposedly featuring computers from hundreds of years in the future. One always sees the computer occupying a large room, with banks of magnetic
    tape drives with tapes whirring round.

    The computers in SF films still annoy me. I expect something much more
    along the lines of Iain M Banks' "Minds", and I'm generally disappointed
    (ditto with weapons - where are the antimatter bombs, the relativistic
    railguns and the like?)

    --
    Today is Sweetmorn, the 27th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3185
    Rising above bedlam

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to Huge@nowhere.much.invalid on Tue Sep 3 18:22:33 2019
    In message <gt6s74Fa8h5U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
    <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
    The computers in SF films still annoy me. I expect something much more
    along the lines of Iain M Banks' "Minds", and I'm generally
    disappointed (ditto with weapons - where are the antimatter bombs, the >relativistic railguns and the like?)

    And however far in the future the film is set, the baddies still can't
    shoot straight. Homing weapons seem to be unknown.
    --
    John Hall
    "If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come
    sit next to me."
    Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)

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  • From Huge@21:1/5 to John Hall on Tue Sep 3 18:54:49 2019
    On 2019-09-03, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <gt6s74Fa8h5U1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
    <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
    The computers in SF films still annoy me. I expect something much more >>along the lines of Iain M Banks' "Minds", and I'm generally
    disappointed (ditto with weapons - where are the antimatter bombs, the >>relativistic railguns and the like?)

    And however far in the future the film is set, the baddies still can't
    shoot straight. Homing weapons seem to be unknown.

    Agreed. Human beings are very good at devising ever better ways to kill
    one another, I see no reason why this trend should not continue? "Photon torpedoes"? Pitiful.

    --
    Today is Sweetmorn, the 27th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3185
    Rising above bedlam

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