So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

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Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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Am 28.10.22 um 14:58 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:

Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet
connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we
established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access. >>
After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any
noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

I tried to answer to your private message but your mail-address creates
a rejection and indicates a fake address. Not very polite.


--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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On 28/10/2022 13:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet
connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we
established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access. >>
After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any
noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

Thank you for your insight and thoughtful comments you have been most
helpful.

I will always look to you when I need further motivation.

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On 28/10/2022 20:01, David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/10/2022 13:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet >>> connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we
established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet
access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any
noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

Thank you for your insight and thoughtful comments you have been most helpful.

I will always look to you when I need further motivation.

Shall I tell him to review your past behaviour?

That might be insightful.

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On 28/10/2022 20:10, David Brooks wrote:

On 28/10/2022 20:01, David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/10/2022 13:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro >>>> 16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and >>>> endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an
Ethernet
connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we
established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet
access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any >>>> noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes >>>> - I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

Thank you for your insight and thoughtful comments you have been most
helpful.

I will always look to you when I need further motivation.

Shall I tell him to review your past behaviour?

That might be insightful.

And you can fuck right off.

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On 28/10/2022 20:13, David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/10/2022 20:10, David Brooks wrote:

On 28/10/2022 20:01, David Kennedy wrote:

On 28/10/2022 13:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

Am 28.10.22 um 13:41 schrieb David Kennedy:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro >>>>> 16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in
and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

You are trying tp ride a dead horse.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an
Ethernet
connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we >>>>> established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no
internet access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that >>>>> internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any >>>>> noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90
minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Classic case of PEBKAC.

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

Thank you for your insight and thoughtful comments you have been most
helpful.

I will always look to you when I need further motivation.

Shall I tell him to review your past behaviour?

That might be insightful.

And you can fuck right off.

Thank you! :-D

There are many foreigners in my country nowadays.

I trust your business didn't fail.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060201230518/http://www.anindianinexile.com/

I expect you are pleased to see a rather special Prime Minister now in
place. Pay-back time I do suspect!

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David Kennedy <sid@sausage.com> wrote:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access.

After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

I’ve occasionally seen something like this on my M1 MBP running Monterey
and early Ventura betas. I found that by turning off WiFi in System Preferences/Settings for a few seconds and then turning it back on seemed
to sort it out. I haven’t had this issue for a while now though so haven’t pursued it further.

--
Cheers, Alan

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On 29/10/2022 07:51, Alan B wrote:

David Kennedy <sid@sausage.com> wrote:

So, Tuesday morning having some free time I backed up - M! Macbook Pro
16" - and updated to Ventura.

Upon restarting the first thing I noticed was that SeaMonkey was in and
endless restart/crash cycle - apparently it does not play nice with
Ventura at all.

The second was that I no longer had internet access although I was
connected to the right wi-fi network.

I tried a second network with the same result and then tried an Ethernet
connection. Still nothing...

So Tuesday afternoon was spent in the Apple Store in Cardiff where we
established that although I could connect to wi-fi I had no internet access. >>
After doing all the hardware and diagnostics it was established that
internet was available via Ethernet in recovery mode.

All the usual suspects were removed - Little Snitch etc. - without any
noticeable difference and at the end of the session - around 90 minutes
- I set off to do a TimeMachine restore from that mornings back-up.

Anyway, when I got back and started up everything worked...

Perhaps it just needed a day out?

I’ve occasionally seen something like this on my M1 MBP running Monterey and early Ventura betas. I found that by turning off WiFi in System Preferences/Settings for a few seconds and then turning it back on seemed
to sort it out. I haven’t had this issue for a while now though so haven’t
pursued it further.

I spent a couple of hours in the morning trying various things. It
wouldn't even connect via ethernet before or after restarting.
We went through all the old standards at the apple store and even after
it was still not playing nice.
I had resigned myself to restoring from TimeMachine but, as I said, it
just worked...

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