• Re: Investigate crashes?

    From Alan B@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jan 20 09:52:21 2022
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.h on Thu Jan 20 09:58:35 2022
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main
    ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not
    changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view them (left side menu).

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 20 09:43:20 2022
    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main
    ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not
    changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur

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  • From Steve Carroll - frelwizen 9847@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jan 20 03:23:23 2022
    On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 2:43:23 AM UTC-7, Chris wrote:
    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Anyone familiar with my posts knows the flood bot is not written in the
    nature Kelly Phillips is implying, and most of them are flat out hand
    written. The one thing Chris learned fully is to try to shame Kelly Phillips into false confession and if that doesn't work, troll-splain or dishonesty change the target. The cypher is real, its presence at any point in time
    being on your AOL installer is a false positive. Kelly Phillips has been
    over this, in intense detail previously, Chris.

    --
    E-commerce Simplified <http://web.archive.org/web/20200909135108/https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/details?name=dustin+james+cook&citystatezip=Kingston%2C+TN&rid=0xl&Diesel=&Gremlin=&Raid=>
    https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6sfkup/what_desktop_tasks_does_linux_handle_better_than
    Steve Petruzzellis the Narcissistic Bigot

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  • From STALKING_TARGET_12@21:1/5 to Chris on Thu Jan 20 19:50:03 2022
    On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 2:43:23 AM UTC-7, Chris wrote:
    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Keep in mind your accusation is based on you not understanding context.
    Your game:

    * Snit spoke of Dustin Cook having Carroll's flood bot code .
    * Dustin Cook does not have Carroll's flood bot code.

    Then you insist I lied. But you leave out the context.

    1) Snit spoke of Carroll's flood bot code, and what can be known without
    the code
    2) Dustin Cook responded by speaking of what he can know HAVING THE CODE.
    3) Snit spoke of Dustin Cook having Carroll's flood bot code.
    4) Dustin Cook does not have Carroll's flood bot code.

    You start at step three and then insist that if one starts there it LOOKS
    like you were unfairly accused.

    In short: you prove yourself a functionally illiterate fraud again.

    --
    Live on Kickstarter https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dustin+cook%3A+functionally+illiterate+fraud https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Steve%20Petruzzellis%20narcissistic%20bigot https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22functionally+illiterate+fraud%22
    Steve 'Narcissistic Bigot' Petruzzellis

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jan 24 12:41:32 2022
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main >>>> ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not >>>> changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view >> them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2 (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant.

    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash.

    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

    I don’t go there myself but you could seek help from the gurus on the Apple Support Communities.

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jan 24 12:24:03 2022
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main >>> ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not
    changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2 (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant.

    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash.

    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jan 24 13:43:09 2022
    On 24/01/2022 12:41, Alan B wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main >>>>> ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not >>>>> changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view
    them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2
    (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant.

    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash. >>
    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

    I don’t go there myself but you could seek help from the gurus on the Apple Support Communities.

    I'll gather a bit more evidence and will do that. Ta.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jan 24 14:37:44 2022
    On 2022-01-24, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/01/2022 12:41, Alan B wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main >>>>>> ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not >>>>>> changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view
    them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2
    (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant.

    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash. >>>
    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

    I don’t go there myself but you could seek help from the gurus on the Apple
    Support Communities.

    I'll gather a bit more evidence and will do that. Ta.

    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

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    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Mon Jan 24 15:06:37 2022
    Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
    On 24 Jan 2022 at 14:37:44 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:


    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not
    necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Might well do - there was some "yay that's better" in the beta team
    forum.

    Another log viewer more useful than Console - Consolation by Eclectic
    Light, https://eclecticlight.co/consolation-t2m2-and-log-utilities/

    Yet another very useful app from Mr. Oakley.

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.h on Mon Jan 24 14:57:48 2022
    On 24 Jan 2022 at 14:37:44 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:


    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Might well do - there was some "yay that's better" in the beta team
    forum.

    Another log viewer more useful than Console - Consolation by Eclectic
    Light, https://eclecticlight.co/consolation-t2m2-and-log-utilities/

    Cheers - Jaimie

    --
    "Hey T-Rex! This ice cream cake is delicious!"
    "Thanks! You don't think it tastes like... *philosophical compromise*?"
    "Only a little!
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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.h on Mon Jan 24 15:24:42 2022
    On 24 Jan 2022 at 15:06:37 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
    On 24 Jan 2022 at 14:37:44 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:


    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not
    necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Might well do - there was some "yay that's better" in the beta team
    forum.

    Another log viewer more useful than Console - Consolation by Eclectic
    Light, https://eclecticlight.co/consolation-t2m2-and-log-utilities/

    Yet another very useful app from Mr. Oakley.

    I find it absolutely bewildering what Apple did to the Mac logging
    system. It's as horrible as systemd now.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    The Daily Mail should be forced to print the words
    'The Paper That Supported Hitler' on its masthead,
    just so that there is something that's true on the
    front page every day. -- Mark Thomas

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jan 24 15:36:19 2022
    On 20/01/2022 09:43, Chris wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    You might like to look under the Apple  (top left hand corner) > About
    This Mac > System Report > Software > Installations

    Anything there which is non-Apple?

    Did YOU put it there?

    Worth a look!

    --
    David

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon Jan 24 16:30:31 2022
    On 24/01/2022 14:37, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-01-24, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/01/2022 12:41, Alan B wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main
    ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not >>>>>>> changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view
    them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2
    (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant.

    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash. >>>>
    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

    I don’t go there myself but you could seek help from the gurus on the Apple
    Support Communities.

    I'll gather a bit more evidence and will do that. Ta.

    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Not an option, unfortunately, as this is a work managed Mac. Monterey is
    yet to be approved.

    Oh, wait. Just checked System Preferences and it is now available :)

    Might wait until the weekend, mind.

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jan 24 16:35:24 2022
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/01/2022 14:37, Alan B wrote:
    On 2022-01-24, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 24/01/2022 12:41, Alan B wrote:
    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 20/01/2022 09:58, Alan B wrote:
    On 20 Jan 2022 at 09:52:21 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

    I've been getting some crashed/sudden reboots lately. Where are the main
    ports of call to find relevant logs to investigate the cause?

    Also any tips to what type of thing might be the cause? AFAIA I've not >>>>>>>> changed anything, hardware or software.

    M1 MBP Big Sur


    Maybe /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports

    Bah! They appear to be binary files. I think you can use Console app to view
    them (left side menu).

    I've found a few "ResetCounter" entries in Diagnostic Reports which
    coincide with crashes and look like this, but that's it.

    {"bug_type":"115","timestamp":"2022-01-12 21:19:37.00
    +0000","name":"Reset count","os_version":"macOS 11.6.2
    (20G314)","incident_id":"B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD"}
    Incident Identifier: B6E292C8-4E2E-4C27-A51A-C86E15E940DD
    CrashReporter Key: 4FF7C2E4-58D5-F68F-05C0-E68BA3C60DB6
    Date: 2022-01-12 21:19:37.91 +0000
    Reset count: 1
    Boot failure count: 0
    Boot faults:
    Boot stage: 0
    Boot app: 0

    In Crash Reports, there's only one entry which doesn't look relevant. >>>>>
    /var/log/system.log doesn't show anything unusual leading up to the crash.

    Anywhere else I can look for hints?

    I don’t go there myself but you could seek help from the gurus on the Apple
    Support Communities.

    I'll gather a bit more evidence and will do that. Ta.

    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not
    necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Not an option, unfortunately, as this is a work managed Mac. Monterey is
    yet to be approved.

    Oh, wait. Just checked System Preferences and it is now available :)

    Might wait until the weekend, mind.

    The Full Mont(ere)y, so to speak ;)

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Alan B@21:1/5 to Alan B on Wed Jan 26 08:27:40 2022
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
    Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
    On 24 Jan 2022 at 14:37:44 GMT, "Alan B"
    <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:


    Have you thought about upgrading to Monterey? Of course that will not
    necessarily alleviate the problem!!!

    Might well do - there was some "yay that's better" in the beta team
    forum.

    Another log viewer more useful than Console - Consolation by Eclectic
    Light, https://eclecticlight.co/consolation-t2m2-and-log-utilities/

    Yet another very useful app from Mr. Oakley.


    Somewhat off topic, his SilentKnight tool is a useful asset too.

    <https://eclecticlight.co/2022/01/26/things-that-go-bump-in-silentknight-serious-security-failures/>

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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