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    From Alan B@21:1/5 to John Hill on Mon May 6 15:31:17 2024
    On 6 May 2024 at 16:19:41 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    When I first started using a Mac, almost forty years ago, black was black and white was white. Text was easy to read.

    But now I'm finding it increasingly difficult to read plain, straightforward text. OK, my sight has deteriorated, and some of my problem is definitely down
    to that. But there seems to be a tendency - perhaps a fashion - to reduce contrast.

    I went to accessibility/display/contrast but couldn't use it - I could barely see the slider bar, let alone the position of the slider. And changing the setting away from normal only seemed to make matters worse. As it moved towards maximum the slider bar disappeared completely!

    Unfortunately it's not only the iMac screen. I have just renewed my car insurance (yes, I can still drive) and when I printed the certificate of insurance it was almost unreadable - grey on white.

    And ever since I got this iMac with its Magic Keyboard, I have been vexed by the fact that the keys are labelled in grey, not black. I have to illuminate the keyboard to see what I am doing.

    Is all this just me, or do others of you have a similar problem?

    And can any of you suggest how to improve it? The keyboard, I admit, is beyond
    help.

    My eyesight has vastly improved since having cataract surgery. Could cataracts be an issue here?

    --
    Cheers, Alan

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Alan B on Mon May 6 17:18:55 2024
    Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 6 May 2024 at 16:19:41 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    f
    But now I'm finding it increasingly difficult to read plain, straightforward text. OK, my sight has deteriorated, and some of my
    problem is definitely down to that. But there seems to be a tendency - perhaps a fashion - to reduce contrast.

    I went to accessibility/display/contrast but couldn't use it - I could barely see the slider bar, let alone the position of the slider. And changing the setting away from normal only seemed to make matters worse.
    As it moved towards maximum the slider bar disappeared completely!

    Unfortunately it's not only the iMac screen. I have just renewed my car insurance (yes, I can still drive) and when I printed the certificate of insurance it was almost unreadable - grey on white.

    And ever since I got this iMac with its Magic Keyboard, I have been
    vexed by the fact that the keys are labelled in grey, not black. I have
    to illuminate the keyboard to see what I am doing.

    Is all this just me, or do others of you have a similar problem?

    And can any of you suggest how to improve it? The keyboard, I admit, is beyond help.

    My eyesight has vastly improved since having cataract surgery. Could cataracts
    be an issue here?

    A quick check for cataracts is to look at something with a few black
    areas on the opposite side of the room (something like a bookshelf with
    plenty of variety). View it in normal lighting and then shine a light
    across the eye so that it isn't in your direct field of view but still
    impinges on the lens. If the black areas noticeably grey-out, you
    probably have cataracts.

    Having said that. I have found Acrobat 4 annoying because it prints
    normal text in grey instead of black. (and this pre-dates my own
    cataracts by a couple of decades).


    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 6 19:08:02 2024
    On 6 May 2024 at 17:18:55 BST, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:


    Having said that. I have found Acrobat 4 annoying because it prints
    normal text in grey instead of black. (and this pre-dates my own
    cataracts by a couple of decades).

    The Kindle phone app annoys me intensely by having no fully-bright text
    on black background options at all. A muddy yellow is as pale as it
    goes. Not to mention the lack of zero-width margins and gutters. It's an
    oled screen! Let me use all of it for text!

    I do have a physical e-Ink kindle as well, but it's larger than my
    pockets.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it.

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to jaimie@usually.sessile.org on Mon May 6 19:52:43 2024
    On 6 May 2024 at 20:08:02 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On 6 May 2024 at 17:18:55 BST, "Liz Tuddenham" <Liz Tuddenham> wrote:

    Having said that. I have found Acrobat 4 annoying because it prints
    normal text in grey instead of black. (and this pre-dates my own
    cataracts by a couple of decades).

    The Kindle phone app annoys me intensely by having no fully-bright text
    on black background options at all. A muddy yellow is as pale as it
    goes. Not to mention the lack of zero-width margins and gutters. It's an
    oled screen! Let me use all of it for text!

    Everything in the Sonoma menu bar is a nice dark black - except the time and date, which is grey, and on the screen without the focus, almost unreadable.

    --
    Tim

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 7 07:40:18 2024
    On 6 May 2024 at 16:31:17 BST, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 6 May 2024 at 16:19:41 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    When I first started using a Mac, almost forty years ago, black was black and
    white was white. Text was easy to read.

    But now I'm finding it increasingly difficult to read plain, straightforward >> text. OK, my sight has deteriorated, and some of my problem is definitely down
    to that. But there seems to be a tendency - perhaps a fashion - to reduce
    contrast.

    I went to accessibility/display/contrast but couldn't use it - I could barely
    see the slider bar, let alone the position of the slider. And changing the >> setting away from normal only seemed to make matters worse. As it moved
    towards maximum the slider bar disappeared completely!

    Unfortunately it's not only the iMac screen. I have just renewed my car
    insurance (yes, I can still drive) and when I printed the certificate of
    insurance it was almost unreadable - grey on white.

    And ever since I got this iMac with its Magic Keyboard, I have been vexed by >> the fact that the keys are labelled in grey, not black. I have to illuminate >> the keyboard to see what I am doing.

    Is all this just me, or do others of you have a similar problem?

    And can any of you suggest how to improve it? The keyboard, I admit, is beyond
    help.

    My eyesight has vastly improved since having cataract surgery. Could cataracts
    be an issue here?

    If it was, I would have no hesitation in having them removed. But when I visited my optician in February he told me that while I did have slight cataracts they were not bad enough to cause me a problem and certainly not bad enough to justify removal.This situation has not changed in the last five or six years.

    I do have a problem with mistiness in my right eye, which varies even with
    time of day. This is due to the formation of a protein film over the eyeball, and occurs because glands in the lower eyelid that are supposed to secrete an enzyme to clear it have stopped working. The only treatment for this appears
    to be to attempt to wash it out with eyedrops, not always very successfully.

    Another penalty of ageing is that my accomodation has decreased to a point at which I am nearly fixed focus. So I have reading glasses (incidentally I do
    not have problems with contrast on my iPad), mid-range glasses for my iMac and varifocals for everything else. I've worn glasses since my early teens - astigmatism.

    AFAIK I do not suffer from macular degeneration. Anne's father had this
    towards the end; it meant that he could no longer read his newspaper.

    In answer to TimS, I don't have a problem with the menu bar in Ventura. My
    iMac is (just) too old to go to Sonoma.

    I switch from time to time between the display default 2048 by 1152 and the larger 1680 by 945; it doesn't seem to make much difference. It would help, perhaps, if I could increase the system font size a bit, but if there is a way of doing this I haven't found it yet.

    So I'll probably just have to muddle through as before.

    Thank you all for listening and trying to help.

    Old John.

    --
    Frustra fit per plura, quod potest fieri per pauciora - William of Occam.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 7 13:14:57 2024
    On 7 May 2024 at 08:40:18 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
    wrote:

    I switch from time to time between the display default 2048 by 1152 and the larger 1680 by 945; it doesn't seem to make much difference. It would help, perhaps, if I could increase the system font size a bit, but if there is a way
    of doing this I haven't found it yet.

    The lower res option does actually increase all font sizes, but for more
    you can look in Accessibility (in Sonoma it's Settings, Accessibility,
    Display; not sure on previous macOS) which has a pile of sliders and
    toggles for sizes of text.

    That Display Contrast slider is absolutely awful though isn't it! So
    useless. On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma so I'm not sure what that was about. Perhaps a non-Apple app
    is providing the time there? I know some calendar apps and iStat Menus
    can take that task over.

    Are you fully into the builtin zoom, hold control and scroll in-out of
    the screen? I use that all the time and not even due to bad eyesight as
    such. Accessibility, Zoom to enable and configure.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    If you mean 'am I serious about what I do', the answer is yes.
    If you mean 'am I serious about how I do it', the answer is no.

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  • From Sara Merriman@21:1/5 to jaimie@usually.sessile.org on Tue May 7 13:54:07 2024
    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.
    --
    Billy is silly

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  • From Graeme Wall@21:1/5 to Sara Merriman on Tue May 7 16:30:26 2024
    On 07/05/2024 14:54, Sara Merriman wrote:
    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.

    AOL
    --
    Graeme Wall
    This account not read.

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  • From Sara Merriman@21:1/5 to Bernd Froehlich on Tue May 7 15:52:47 2024
    On 7 May 2024 at 16:41:19 BST, "Bernd Froehlich" <befr@eaglesoft.de> wrote:

    On 7. May 2024 at 15:54:07 CEST, "Sara Merriman" <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:

    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
    <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.

    I don´t. It´s all black over here.

    Wonder what I've hit by mistake.
    --
    Spike is a sturdy birdy

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  • From Bernd Froehlich@21:1/5 to Sara Merriman on Tue May 7 15:41:19 2024
    On 7. May 2024 at 15:54:07 CEST, "Sara Merriman" <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:

    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.

    I don´t. It´s all black over here.

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  • From TimS@21:1/5 to Sara Merriman on Tue May 7 17:08:21 2024
    On 7 May 2024 at 14:54:07 BST, "Sara Merriman" <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:

    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.

    Not if I can help it. Anyone know how to restore the time/date to all-black?

    --
    Tim

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  • From Bruce Horrocks@21:1/5 to TimS on Tue May 7 20:43:44 2024
    On 07/05/2024 18:08, TimS wrote:
    On 7 May 2024 at 14:54:07 BST, "Sara Merriman" <sara@sarlet.com> wrote:

    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
    <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma

    I do! I assumed it was meant to be.

    Not if I can help it. Anyone know how to restore the time/date to all-black?


    Change Settings, Accessibility, Display, Reduce Transparency to on?

    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Surrey, England

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to jaimie@usually.sessile.org on Wed May 8 08:05:25 2024
    On 7 May 2024 at 14:14:57 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On 7 May 2024 at 08:40:18 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk>
    wrote:

    I switch from time to time between the display default 2048 by 1152 and the >> larger 1680 by 945; it doesn't seem to make much difference. It would help, >> perhaps, if I could increase the system font size a bit, but if there is a way
    of doing this I haven't found it yet.

    The lower res option does actually increase all font sizes, but for more
    you can look in Accessibility (in Sonoma it's Settings, Accessibility, Display; not sure on previous macOS) which has a pile of sliders and
    toggles for sizes of text.

    That Display Contrast slider is absolutely awful though isn't it! So
    useless. On the other hand, I don't get grey date/time in the menu bar
    in Sonoma so I'm not sure what that was about. Perhaps a non-Apple app
    is providing the time there? I know some calendar apps and iStat Menus
    can take that task over.

    Are you fully into the builtin zoom, hold control and scroll in-out of
    the screen? I use that all the time and not even due to bad eyesight as
    such. Accessibility, Zoom to enable and configure.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    There are a lot of controls in the Accessibility/ Display section, but in Verona none of them relate to text sizes in general. I already have Menu Bar size set to Large and a significantly larger pointer. Also Reduce transparency is On. I did experiment with Pointer Outline and Fill colours but quickly came to the conclusion that the defaults of white and black were best.

    I've experimented with all the controls in Accessibility now, at least those available to me in Verona, and believe that their current settings are the
    most comfortable for me.

    None of this much affects my original grumble about the tendency to use greys instead of a good solid black, not only by Apple but by others.

    Old John.

    --
    Classic computing: Computers do what you tell them to do, not what you want them to do.
    Modern computing: Computers do what they want to do, no matter what you tell them to do.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Wed May 8 09:01:51 2024
    On 07/05/2024 08:40, John Hill wrote:
    Thank you all for listening and trying to help.

    One small point I've not noticed anyone else mentioning, John.

    In Safari, have you set the number to a higher value than the norm?
    Here, you'll see I've set the font size to 14. https://i.ibb.co/cN6n7mt/Screenshot-2024-05-08-at-08-54-17.png

    It may just be of help to you.

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From John Hill@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed May 8 10:12:05 2024
    David Brooks <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 07/05/2024 08:40, John Hill wrote:
    Thank you all for listening and trying to help.

    One small point I've not noticed anyone else mentioning, John.

    In Safari, have you set the number to a higher value than the norm?
    Here, you'll see I've set the font size to 14. https://i.ibb.co/cN6n7mt/Screenshot-2024-05-08-at-08-54-17.png

    It may just be of help to you.


    Apps are considerably more flexible. But so far as I can tell the only way
    of increasing the size of stuff that uses the system font or is otherwise
    fixed is to reduce the screen resolution.

    And I don’t use Safari much on the iMac; I seem to have moved from Firefox
    to Arc. Have you tried that?

    Old John.

    --
    The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Wed May 8 13:19:02 2024
    On 08/05/2024 11:12, John Hill wrote:
    David Brooks <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 07/05/2024 08:40, John Hill wrote:
    Thank you all for listening and trying to help.

    One small point I've not noticed anyone else mentioning, John.

    In Safari, have you set the number to a higher value than the norm?
    Here, you'll see I've set the font size to 14.
    https://i.ibb.co/cN6n7mt/Screenshot-2024-05-08-at-08-54-17.png

    It may just be of help to you.


    Apps are considerably more flexible. But so far as I can tell the only way
    of increasing the size of stuff that uses the system font or is otherwise fixed is to reduce the screen resolution.

    And I don’t use Safari much on the iMac; I seem to have moved from Firefox to Arc. Have you tried that?

    Hello again Old John

    No - but I've now done some research. Have you watched this YT video
    about Arc?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIeJF3kL5ng

    The people involved seem genuine.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed May 8 15:19:36 2024
    On 08/05/2024 13:19, David Brooks wrote:
    I've now done some MORE research!

    To read/watch here:- https://wemightnotmakeit.tv

    Fascinating!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to John Hill on Thu May 9 18:28:57 2024
    On 08/05/2024 11:12, John Hill wrote:
    Arc. Have you tried that?

    Now available from the Apple App store!

    Seems great! Thanks for the heads up!

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Sat May 11 10:50:30 2024
    On 09/05/2024 18:28, David Brooks wrote:
    On 08/05/2024 11:12, John Hill wrote:
    Arc. Have you tried that?

    Now available from the Apple App store!

    Oops! That's an error on my part. Sorry.

    Seems great! Thanks for the heads up!

    My only ‘concern’ is HOW they are making money to support their company!

    Here’s an up-to-date independent review:- Arc Browser Review & Tutorial (2024)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldf5Q-nkBZU

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