Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not very good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old Windows 7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not very good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old Windows 7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
On 30 Apr 2023 at 18:25:09 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The
click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not very >> good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old Windows
7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
I've created a crude applications Dock item by dragging the Applications folder into the Dock to the left of the Downloads item. Clicking on it brings up a window with the apps in alphabetical order and the clicking on an app icon launches it. I believe Alfred is now Ventura compatible although I've never used it.
On 30 Apr 2023 at 18:38:25 BST, Alan B wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 18:25:09 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The
click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not
very good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old
Windows 7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
I've created a crude applications Dock item by dragging the Applications folder into the Dock to the left of the Downloads item. Clicking on it brings up a window with the apps in alphabetical order and the clicking
on an app icon launches it. I believe Alfred is now Ventura compatible although I've never used it.
Could do that - but 230+ apps. Some pruning could be in order too methinks...
On 30 Apr 2023 at 18:38:25 BST, Alan B wrote:
On 30 Apr 2023 at 18:25:09 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The
click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not very
good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old Windows
7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
I've created a crude applications Dock item by dragging the Applications
folder into the Dock to the left of the Downloads item. Clicking on it brings
up a window with the apps in alphabetical order and the clicking on an app >> icon launches it. I believe Alfred is now Ventura compatible although I've >> never used it.
Could do that - but 230+ apps. Some pruning could be in order too methinks . .
I did try using the 'User' Applications folder to create a set of
organised folders, with aliases to the apps in the main Applications
folder, picking the ones I wanted to access most easy, and grouping them
into types.
That can also be dragged into the dock, and used as a basic pop-up menu
kind of thing.
My iMac doesn't have so many apps installed now, so I do just use the
main Applications folder in that fashion instead.
Am 01.05.23 um 08:29 schrieb Chris:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when >>> you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other >>> hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s
about time I reorganised it!
I just use Spotlight. No need to organise anything!
This would be/is my second solution.
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when >> you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other >> hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s
about time I reorganised it!
I just use Spotlight. No need to organise anything!
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
I did try using the 'User' Applications folder to create a set of
organised folders, with aliases to the apps in the main Applications
folder, picking the ones I wanted to access most easy, and grouping them
into types.
That can also be dragged into the dock, and used as a basic pop-up menu
kind of thing.
My iMac doesn't have so many apps installed now, so I do just use the
main Applications folder in that fashion instead.
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s about time I reorganised it!
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Am 01.05.23 um 08:48 schrieb Alan B:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
Am 01.05.23 um 08:48 schrieb Alan B:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
Am 01.05.23 um 08:48 schrieb Alan B:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
On 01/05/2023 09:35, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 01.05.23 um 08:48 schrieb Alan B:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent
topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general
activities.
Have you tried this, Joerg?
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
# get list of users on the computer
my $usersDir="/Users";
opendir(DIR, $usersDir);
my @subdirs = readdir(DIR);
closedir DIR;
# iterate through all users on the computer
foreach my $username (@subdirs) {
if($username ne "." && $username ne "..") {
# ignore . and .. for obvious reasons
if(-d "$usersDir/$username") {
# only proceed if this is a directory
my $homeDir = "$usersDir/$username";
# remove any old cron schedules lying around
if($username ne "Guest" && $username ne "Shared"){
# Users "Guest" and "Shared" can't use cron
`/usr/bin/crontab -u $username -l | grep -v "no crontab
for" | grep -v "freshclam" | grep -v "clamscan" > /tmp/crontmp`;
`/usr/bin/crontab -u $username /tmp/crontmp`;
`rm /tmp/crontmp`;
}
# remove launchd schedules
if( -f "$homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.clamscan.plist"){
`/bin/launchctl unload $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.clamscan.plist`;
`/bin/rm $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.clamscan.plist`;
}
if( -f "$homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.clamscan.plist"){
`/bin/launchctl unload $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.clamscan.plist`;
`/bin/rm $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.clamscan.plist`;
}
if( -f "$homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.freshclam.plist"){
`/bin/launchctl unload $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.freshclam.plist`;
`/bin/rm $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.markallan.clamxav.freshclam.plist`;
}
if( -f "$homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.freshclam.plist"){
`/bin/launchctl unload $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.freshclam.plist`;
`/bin/rm $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.freshclam.plist`;
}
# remove uninstall watcher...but only if it's not the uninstall watcher that's running this script otherwise we'll die
prematurely
if( -f "$homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.UninstallWatcher.plist"){
`/bin/launchctl unload $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.UninstallWatcher.plist`;
`/bin/rm $homeDir/Library/LaunchAgents/uk.co.canimaansoftware.clamxav.UninstallWatcher.plist`;
}
}
}
}
`cd /usr/local && rm -rf ClamXAV3`;
On 1 May 2023 at 09:35:15 BST, "Joerg Lorenz" <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
Yes that's true but Spotlight also outputs lots of other often unwanted related information which some of us find quite irritating.
On 01/05/2023 09:35, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 01.05.23 um 08:48 schrieb Alan B:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic! >>
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
How would YOU find the remnants of ClamXAV which remain after one has uninstalled it from ones Mac?
https://www.clamxav.com/support/FAQs/
//How do I uninstall ClamXAV completely?
You can simply drag ClamXAV.app to the trash; after a few seconds you’ll see a message asking if you would also like to uninstall the scanning
engine.
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
I did try using the 'User' Applications folder to create a set of
organised folders, with aliases to the apps in the main Applications
folder, picking the ones I wanted to access most easy, and grouping them
into types.
That can also be dragged into the dock, and used as a basic pop-up menu
kind of thing.
My iMac doesn't have so many apps installed now, so I do just use the
main Applications folder in that fashion instead.
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s about time I reorganised it!
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
In article <u2ntk3$tqe$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic! >>I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
actually, they can't. unlike spotlight, findanyfile actually finds
stuff, and does so rapidly.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent
topic!
I do not need a separate application for such a trivial task. Macs can
do that very well with onboard software like many other general activities.
actually, they can't. unlike spotlight, findanyfile actually finds
stuff, and does so rapidly.
I never had a reason to complain. Spotlight *always* found a needed application.
In article <u2oee1$14ra$1@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:
I never had a reason to complain. Spotlight *always* found a needed
application.
spotlight might be acceptable for apps, but it's the *other* stuff
where it has problems.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Am 01.05.23 um 08:29 schrieb Chris:
Alan B <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when
you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other
hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s
about time I reorganised it!
I just use Spotlight. No need to organise anything!
This would be/is my second solution.
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
I did try using the 'User' Applications folder to create a set of
organised folders, with aliases to the apps in the main Applications
folder, picking the ones I wanted to access most easy, and grouping them
into types.
That can also be dragged into the dock, and used as a basic pop-up menu
kind of thing.
My iMac doesn't have so many apps installed now, so I do just use the
main Applications folder in that fashion instead.
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s about time I reorganised it!
On 01/05/2023 01:33, Alan B wrote:
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
I did try using the 'User' Applications folder to create a set of
organised folders, with aliases to the apps in the main Applications
folder, picking the ones I wanted to access most easy, and grouping them >>> into types.
That can also be dragged into the dock, and used as a basic pop-up menu
kind of thing.
My iMac doesn't have so many apps installed now, so I do just use the
main Applications folder in that fashion instead.
That is pretty much what I do but as Rob points out it’s only useful when >> you have a relatively small number of applications installed. On the other >> hand my Documents folder has too many items at the top level so maybe it’s
about time I reorganised it!
Go to the Applications folder and assign tags (using Add Tags) from the
menu bar to groups of apps, so Green for home apps, Blue for work apps,
for example.
Then create a Smart Folder to select just those tags:
- open Applications in the Finder
- Menu->File->New Smart Folder
- by default it will be searching the Applications folder
- hit the + button to add a second rule
- choose other from the drop down list and search for Tags
- add Green (note it's a live search so if nothing appears then you
spelt the tag name wrongly)
- save the smart folder as "Green" or "Home" or whatever and put it in
the sidebar
- right-click on the side-bar and choose "Add to Dock"
Now you have a Dock item that pops up a stack of just the apps that you
have tagged as being for "Work".
Remove the Smart Folder from the Finder sidebar to save clutter.
Repeat for as many classifications as you can cope with.
HTH
In article <u2ot7e$9jjj$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic! >>
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
it's normally faster since it directly reads the b-trees in the file
system rather than use an index (which is not always correct), and the queries can be tuned to filter out (or in) exactly what is desired.
it can also search directories that spotlight skips.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.
In article <u2ot7e$9jjj$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
Not every Mac user wants to, or is even capable of, using the CLI. Hence the need
for apps such as FAF. I can use the find command in the CLI but mdfind is an excellent
alternative.
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
Why not just answer the question? Having a quick look at the website, I couldn't see the answer.
Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
it's normally faster since it directly reads the b-trees in the file
system rather than use an index (which is not always correct), and the queries can be tuned to filter out (or in) exactly what is desired.
Like find.
it can also search directories that spotlight skips.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.
Which is a huge benefit.
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <u2ot7e$9jjj$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.Why not just answer the question? Having a quick look at the website, I couldn't see the answer.
Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
it's normally faster since it directly reads the b-trees in the fileLike find.
system rather than use an index (which is not always correct), and the queries can be tuned to filter out (or in) exactly what is desired.
it can also search directories that spotlight skips.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.Which is a huge benefit.
Is there an easy way of organising apps in Launchpad (Mac Ventura)? The click/hold/drag I find a pain - it's like trying to play a game I'm not very good at.
It'd be much easier with some sort of Finder interface, as in the old Windows 7 Start/Applications menu system - but I can't see a way . . .
Is it only me that has actually organised my system so that I almost
never have to use any search boxes?
I've built up my system, over many years, using a simple, and obvious
plain English naming convention for my folders and sub folders.
I takes me seconds to navigate to a subfolder containing any file I
need. Simply because I used something like this (just an example here):
Documents -> House Bills -> 'Gas bill April 2023.pdf'.
Am 04.05.23 um 13:51 schrieb Andy Hewitt:
Is it only me that has actually organised my system so that I almost
never have to use any search boxes?
I've built up my system, over many years, using a simple, and obvious
plain English naming convention for my folders and sub folders.
I takes me seconds to navigate to a subfolder containing any file I
need. Simply because I used something like this (just an example here):
Documents -> House Bills -> 'Gas bill April 2023.pdf'.
+1; I do it a similar way. Structured and logic. Another thinbg is
economics: Often used things very close (one or two clicks away) and
others "who cares".
On 04/05/2023 15:41, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 04.05.23 um 13:51 schrieb Andy Hewitt:
Is it only me that has actually organised my system so that I almost
never have to use any search boxes?
I've built up my system, over many years, using a simple, and obvious
plain English naming convention for my folders and sub folders.
I takes me seconds to navigate to a subfolder containing any file I
need. Simply because I used something like this (just an example here):
Documents -> House Bills -> 'Gas bill April 2023.pdf'.
+1; I do it a similar way. Structured and logic. Another thinbg is economics: Often used things very close (one or two clicks away) and
others "who cares".
I just sometimes feel that there are too many ways to reinvent the
wheel, or fix things that ain't broke.
There are lots of ways to make a simple task so much more complicated (especially based on what the OP was asking). It seems to be a 'thing'
for those fluent in 'computer', that we have to use all that power it
has as much as possible, then complain because it's too slow.
It can get a bit tricky when something could be filed under lots of
different headings, that is where aliases help with the
cross-referencing.
Another use of aliases is to put the current most-often used items
straight on the desktop. The current issue of a document you are
writing or something you need to refer to frequently for a limited
period of time. The real item can lurk deep down in the folder
structure but the alias makes it just one click away. When it is no
longer current, the alias can be deleted but the document remains safely tucked away in its folder.
Andy Hewitt <thewildrover@icloud.com> wrote:
On 04/05/2023 15:41, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
Am 04.05.23 um 13:51 schrieb Andy Hewitt:
Is it only me that has actually organised my system so that I almost
never have to use any search boxes?
I've built up my system, over many years, using a simple, and obvious
plain English naming convention for my folders and sub folders.
I takes me seconds to navigate to a subfolder containing any file I
need. Simply because I used something like this (just an example here): >>>>
Documents -> House Bills -> 'Gas bill April 2023.pdf'.
+1; I do it a similar way. Structured and logic. Another thinbg is
economics: Often used things very close (one or two clicks away) and
others "who cares".
I just sometimes feel that there are too many ways to reinvent the
wheel, or fix things that ain't broke.
There are lots of ways to make a simple task so much more complicated
(especially based on what the OP was asking). It seems to be a 'thing'
for those fluent in 'computer', that we have to use all that power it
has as much as possible, then complain because it's too slow.
It can get a bit tricky when something could be filed under lots of
different headings, that is where aliases help with the
cross-referencing.
Another use of aliases is to put the current most-often used items
straight on the desktop. The current issue of a document you are
writing or something you need to refer to frequently for a limited
period of time. The real item can lurk deep down in the folder
structure but the alias makes it just one click away. When it is no
longer current, the alias can be deleted but the document remains safely tucked away in its folder.
In article <u2qaou$l03e$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
Why not just answer the question? Having a quick look at the website, I
couldn't see the answer.
because it has to be a joke. unix find is slow and not as good compared
to other options.
Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
it's normally faster since it directly reads the b-trees in the file
system rather than use an index (which is not always correct), and the
queries can be tuned to filter out (or in) exactly what is desired.
Like find.
nope. not at all like find. not even remotely close.
it can also search directories that spotlight skips.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.
Which is a huge benefit.
in some cases it is. in others, it's not.
most of the time, people search by name because they know what they're looking for. content is irrelevant.
this topic began in regards to searching for apps, for which there is
no content.
On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 07:32:01 UTC+1, Chris wrote:
nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <u2ot7e$9jjj$1...@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithi...@gmail.com>Why not just answer the question? Having a quick look at the website, I
wrote:
Or even http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ as mentioned in a recent topic!
Does this do anything that unix find cannot?
you must be joking. tell me you're joking.
couldn't see the answer.
Like find.Like is it as fast as
Spotlight?
it's normally faster since it directly reads the b-trees in the file
system rather than use an index (which is not always correct), and the
queries can be tuned to filter out (or in) exactly what is desired.
it can also search directories that spotlight skips.Which is a huge benefit.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.
Not if you don't want it, which I find on most occasions.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it. >> Which is a huge benefit.
Not if you don't want it, which I find on most occasions.
Yet I do on most occasions.
In article <u35udn$2tptg$2@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it. >>>> Which is a huge benefit.
Not if you don't want it, which I find on most occasions.
Yet I do on most occasions.
and whatever you do, the rest of the world also does.
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.Which is a huge benefit.
Not if you don't want it, which I find on most occasions.
Yet I do on most occasions.
and whatever you do, the rest of the world also does.
You are a very destructive character. You did not answer the question
and more so you do not know at all what others do or want.
In article <u367qk$8ids$2@solani.org>, Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch>
wrote:
spotlight is useful for searching based on content, but that's about it.Which is a huge benefit.
Not if you don't want it, which I find on most occasions.
Yet I do on most occasions.
and whatever you do, the rest of the world also does.
You are a very destructive character. You did not answer the question
and more so you do not know at all what others do or want.
whoosh.
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