• Suddenly, my PC is signing me into websites

    From Davey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 4 23:58:04 2023
    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password. I looked at the settings of GoogleMail, and I couldn't find where or how to change this.
    Has there been a general change somewhere? I like having to sign in, it
    at least means that my computer doesn't give somebody else access to my
    online accounts.
    I use Firefox and Thunderbird, on Ubuntu. I have always refused the
    request to let Firefox remember my passwords.
    Any help appreciated.
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    Davey

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  • From IanJ@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Dec 5 00:05:41 2023
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password. I looked at the settings of GoogleMail, and I couldn't find where or how to change this.
    Has there been a general change somewhere? I like having to sign in, it
    at least means that my computer doesn't give somebody else access to my online accounts.
    I use Firefox and Thunderbird, on Ubuntu. I have always refused the
    request to let Firefox remember my passwords.
    Any help appreciated.

    I remember something like this when I logged into gmail, it doesn't log
    you out so maybe any other site that has the option to login with your
    google credentials is treating you as already being logged in.

    Try going to the googlemail website and clicking the logout link /
    button and see if this still happens with other sites. It probably
    stores some session cookie in your browser. If this is the case then you
    could probably stop it happening by clearing all your browser cookies.

    Hope this helps.

    --

    IanJ

    gopher://gopher.icu

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 08:57:57 2023
    Am 04.12.2023 um 23:58:04 Uhr schrieb Davey:

    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    Configure your browser so it deletes the Cookies when closing it.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Dec 5 08:31:12 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 08:57:57 +0100
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

    Am 04.12.2023 um 23:58:04 Uhr schrieb Davey:

    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    Configure your browser so it deletes the Cookies when closing it.


    I agree that might do it. I'll do that.
    Will I have to do more accepting of cookies each time I visit a website?
    But what changed to make it start logging me in?

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    Davey.

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  • From Mike Scott@21:1/5 to Davey on Tue Dec 5 09:03:13 2023
    On 05/12/2023 08:31, Davey wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 08:57:57 +0100
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

    Am 04.12.2023 um 23:58:04 Uhr schrieb Davey:

    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    Configure your browser so it deletes the Cookies when closing it.


    I agree that might do it. I'll do that.
    Will I have to do more accepting of cookies each time I visit a website?

    Probably. Or you can just allow cookies, and make sure they're
    automatically deleted at end of session, which I've found a useful
    compromise. But remember end of session means closing all instances of
    the browser.

    But what changed to make it start logging me in?

    Presumably it had a cookie set with a login token of some sort. Bad
    idea, IMO. You can find a list of cookies in FF's settings page.



    --
    Mike Scott
    Harlow, England

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 10:33:31 2023
    Am 05.12.2023 um 08:31:12 Uhr schrieb Davey:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 08:57:57 +0100
    Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

    Am 04.12.2023 um 23:58:04 Uhr schrieb Davey:

    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    Configure your browser so it deletes the Cookies when closing it.


    I agree that might do it. I'll do that.
    Will I have to do more accepting of cookies each time I visit a
    website?

    Of course because the cookie consent is saved in a cookie.
    There are addons that automatically give consent.

    But what changed to make it start logging me in?

    Websites tore this information in cookies. If you let the browser
    delete them when exiting, the session info is gone and you need to log
    in again.

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Davey on Thu Dec 7 23:28:51 2023
    On 04/12/2023 23:58, Davey wrote:
    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    That is *usually* something that is done for you by the browser, not
    something done by the site itself. It's possible that a site could store
    a login state in a cookie ... but you can fix that by deleting cookies.

    I use Firefox and Thunderbird, on Ubuntu. I have always refused the
    request to let Firefox remember my passwords.

    It's worth checking that this hasn't 'helpfully' turned itself on again, somehow in an upgrade, perhaps thanks to Ubuntu using snap (Edit,
    Settings, Privacy and Security, Logins and Passwords).

    Otherwise, Cookies and Site Data is on the same settings page. Manage
    Data will show you which sites have things set.

    I always set Firefox to delete cookies when it is closed (and I close it periodically to make that happen). Yes, I have to select preferences a
    bit more often, but I think it's worth the bother.

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Daniel James on Fri Dec 8 01:19:26 2023
    On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:28:51 +0000
    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:

    On 04/12/2023 23:58, Davey wrote:
    I don't remember doing anything about this, but now, my PC is
    automatically signing me in to Google Mail and LinkedIn, and maybe
    more, without asking me for my password.

    That is *usually* something that is done for you by the browser, not something done by the site itself. It's possible that a site could
    store a login state in a cookie ... but you can fix that by deleting
    cookies.

    I use Firefox and Thunderbird, on Ubuntu. I have always refused the
    request to let Firefox remember my passwords.

    It's worth checking that this hasn't 'helpfully' turned itself on
    again, somehow in an upgrade, perhaps thanks to Ubuntu using snap
    (Edit, Settings, Privacy and Security, Logins and Passwords).

    Otherwise, Cookies and Site Data is on the same settings page. Manage
    Data will show you which sites have things set.

    I always set Firefox to delete cookies when it is closed (and I close
    it periodically to make that happen). Yes, I have to select
    preferences a bit more often, but I think it's worth the bother.


    Yes, I went in to the cookies settings, and deleted the LinkedIn and
    Google cookies. LinkedIn now requires me to log in, as it used to. I
    notice on the way out that it offered to keep me logged in, maybe i inadvertently checked that earlier. I haven't tried google via browser
    yet.
    I think that the cookie deletion on exit will soon be implemented.
    Thanks, everyone, for the help.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon Dec 11 13:54:04 2023
    On 08/12/2023 01:19, Davey wrote:
    On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:28:51 +0000

    Yes, I went in to the cookies settings, and deleted the LinkedIn and
    Google cookies. LinkedIn now requires me to log in, as it used to. I
    notice on the way out that it offered to keep me logged in, maybe i inadvertently checked that earlier. I haven't tried google via browser
    yet.
    I think that the cookie deletion on exit will soon be implemented.
    Thanks, everyone, for the help.


    While you are on a cookie control spree, most browsers have a ban third
    party cookie setting, which doesn't no harm to enable.

    Usual stuff though, strong passwords, use 2FA/2SA, authenticator app/device.

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    Adrian C

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