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    From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Aug 3 11:53:59 2021
    On 03/08/2021 11:51, Martin Gregorie wrote:

    This is addressed to whoever owns process thats syphoning off messages
    from the NNTP network to Fidonet and immediately re-injecting them to the NNTP:

    - this wasn't a problem when it only happened once or twice, but now it
    seems to be duplicating most messages posted to uk.comp.os.linux

    - its your problem. You're causing it, so go away and fix it.

    - Don't come back until you have fixed it.

    I've sent two complaints now to a b u s e @ a i o e . o r g , others
    may care to do the same.

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
    www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 3 10:51:05 2021
    This is addressed to whoever owns process thats syphoning off messages
    from the NNTP network to Fidonet and immediately re-injecting them to the
    NNTP:

    - this wasn't a problem when it only happened once or twice, but now it
    seems to be duplicating most messages posted to uk.comp.os.linux

    - its your problem. You're causing it, so go away and fix it.

    - Don't come back until you have fixed it.


    --
    --
    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Aug 3 12:53:35 2021
    Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:

    This is addressed to whoever owns process thats syphoning off messages
    from the NNTP network to Fidonet and immediately re-injecting them to the NNTP:

    - this wasn't a problem when it only happened once or twice, but now it
    seems to be duplicating most messages posted to uk.comp.os.linux

    - its your problem. You're causing it, so go away and fix it.

    - Don't come back until you have fixed it.

    The Organization: says 'rbb soupgate', which might be these people: https://www.fidonet.fi/doku.php?id=nntp:nntp
    - worth a mail?

    ('soupgate' is the gateway software but I think RBB is the specific server)

    Theo

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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 3 11:51:05 2021
    This is addressed to whoever owns process thats syphoning off messages
    from the NNTP network to Fidonet and immediately re-injecting them to the
    NNTP:

    - this wasn't a problem when it only happened once or twice, but now it
    seems to be duplicating most messages posted to uk.comp.os.linux

    - its your problem. You're causing it, so go away and fix it.

    - Don't come back until you have fixed it.


    --
    --
    Martin | martin at
    Gregorie | gregorie dot org

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Wed Aug 4 15:36:48 2021
    On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 10:51:05 -0000 (UTC)
    Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:

    This is addressed to whoever owns process thats syphoning off messages
    from the NNTP network to Fidonet and immediately re-injecting them to the NNTP:

    - this wasn't a problem when it only happened once or twice, but now it
    seems to be duplicating most messages posted to uk.comp.os.linux

    - its your problem. You're causing it, so go away and fix it.

    - Don't come back until you have fixed it.

    A few remarks :

    1. From the moment it started , which I think was on 18 Jul 2021 when my
    own <R+EiOUcgN7y1BkzbD@bongo-ra.co> was duplicated as <1808962295@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> , I believe *every* message to the
    group has been duplicated.

    2. Who are you hoping will read your post ? If the person(s) responsible
    for the problem read the group , then they already know it's happening.
    Surely they already realise it's annoying so , either they don't care ,
    or , more likely , they don't read the group in which case your post won't
    do any good.

    3. The situation raises a question of netiquette : normally test posts
    are supposed to go to a group specifically for testing like alt.test .
    But if one wants to test whether the issue persists for this group then
    they would have to post to this group. So what does netiquette have to
    say about this situation ?

    --
    Any sufficiently advanced brain damage is indistinguishable from trolling.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Spiros Bousbouras@21:1/5 to Spiros Bousbouras on Wed Aug 4 19:25:07 2021
    On 4 Aug 2021 15:36:48 -0000
    Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> wrote:
    A few remarks :

    Another thing : RFC 5537 says

    An incoming gateway MUST add a Sender header field to the news
    article it forms by containing the <mailbox> of the administrator of
    the gateway. Problems with the gateway may be reported to this
    <mailbox>. The <display-name> portion of this <mailbox> SHOULD
    indicate that the entity responsible for injection of the message is
    a gateway.

    The duplicated messages from fidonet.fi violate this simple requirement. Whatever else they do wrong , this isn't hard to meet.

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