• Bloody Evolution and its brain-dead developers

    From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 00:34:43 2023
    I've just come home and logged into my laptop to find that Evolution,
    which I've used for years because it has previously done exactly what I
    wanted from a combined email tool, contact manager and diary has changed
    itself out of all usability and sense.

    I last updated this Fedora system on Wednesday Wednesday, 25 Jan 2103 but
    this unwanted set of changes was applied while I was out tonight, Sunday,
    29 Jan 2103 when I HAD NOT run any system updates since Wednesday.

    If this was done with Snap or something like that, then I'm totally
    against it: for years I've done a full backup followed immediately by a
    Fedora package upgrade to avoid being caught by exactly this problem
    because some self-entitled prick thinks he understands my requirements
    better than I do, and now some numpty has disagreed disastrously with my reasoning. My disaster, not his obviously (though it should be his for not thinking things through - the idiot didn't even think of putting the
    messages in the wastebasket).

    Well, congratulations, sonny boy. You've just caused all the emails I've
    been keeping to track ongoing medical and software issues to be deleted. I
    was keeping them because they contained contact details that I needed.

    I knew there was a good reason for being suspicious of unstoppable and unscheduleable push updates and this proves it.

    I suppose you feel proud of causing this damage, but to me you're just an ignorant prick.

    I'll be raising this tomorrow on Fedora's bugzilla system as a classic
    example of why push updates should never be implemented, or at least made disallowable by those whose software they update.


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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 30 07:56:08 2023
    Am 30.01.23 um 01:34 schrieb Martin Gregorie:
    I've just come home and logged into my laptop to find that Evolution,
    which I've used for years because it has previously done exactly what I wanted from a combined email tool, contact manager and diary has changed itself out of all usability and sense.

    I last updated this Fedora system on Wednesday Wednesday, 25 Jan 2103 but this unwanted set of changes was applied while I was out tonight, Sunday,
    29 Jan 2103 when I HAD NOT run any system updates since Wednesday.

    If this was done with Snap or something like that, then I'm totally
    against it: for years I've done a full backup followed immediately by a Fedora package upgrade to avoid being caught by exactly this problem
    because some self-entitled prick thinks he understands my requirements
    better than I do, and now some numpty has disagreed disastrously with my reasoning. My disaster, not his obviously (though it should be his for not thinking things through - the idiot didn't even think of putting the
    messages in the wastebasket).

    Well, congratulations, sonny boy. You've just caused all the emails I've
    been keeping to track ongoing medical and software issues to be deleted. I was keeping them because they contained contact details that I needed.

    I knew there was a good reason for being suspicious of unstoppable and unscheduleable push updates and this proves it.

    I suppose you feel proud of causing this damage, but to me you're just an ignorant prick.

    I'll be raising this tomorrow on Fedora's bugzilla system as a classic example of why push updates should never be implemented, or at least made disallowable by those whose software they update.

    PEBKAC?
    Use your backups i.e. Timeshift to go back.
    In a world with IMAP it is simply impossible to happen what you claim.
    Why are you using Fedora when you don't master it. Use Mint. Even on
    Ubuntu with snap updates can be turned off.

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    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

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