A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
On 04/01/2023 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Can't comment on Teams, but we used Zoom for family meetings throughout
the pandemic. You can get up to 40 mins a time for free. Only gripe I have with it is that, like so much modern software that began on
Linux/mobile phone OSs, it puts executable code in your user profile,
which I consider a security hazard, so after installation moved it into
a sub of 'Program Files' to run from there, a process which had to be repeated manually every time it updated itself.
One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good?
Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything
MS. I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
Am 04.01.2023 schrieb Davey <davey@example.invalid>:
One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good?
It works, but privacy isn't good, the traffic goes through MS's
servers.
Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
If it has a compatible browser (Chrome should work), then yes.
I use it on Linux with Firefox. The Linux app (an electron based "web browser" app) has been discontinued.
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything
MS. I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
IIRC teams is the successor for Skype for Business, but normal Skype
still exists.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good?
On 04/01/2023 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good?
Avoid, there is an active AI reading responses (it creepily autosuggests
chat to use if you have nothing to write) and machine generated
transcripts of conversations are easy to setup and abuse, particularly
if someone unknown has administrator rights. If you are using this in a company, you can bet your Boss knows pretty well everything about you,
the behaviour monitoring goes quite deep.
You just need a communications tool, end-to-end encrypted.
Have a look at WebEx from Cisico.
https://www.webex.com/
Or WhatsApp?
Zoom security during lockdown was found to be a bit of a joke. Dunno if
it has improved, but folks private meetings would occasionally get gatecrashed.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
More or less ... I find it's "a bit much" on a phone, so I
tend to install it, use it, uninstall it whenever I'm
somewhere that I need to use it on a phone.
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon,
I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one
other participant is in Sydney, OZ. One of the others has
suggested 'Teams', which I see is an MS programme. Is it
any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Can't comment on Teams, but we used Zoom for family
meetings throughout the pandemic. You can get up to 40
mins a time for free.
Davey:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon,
I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one
other participant is in Sydney, OZ. One of the others has
suggested 'Teams', which I see is an MS programme. Is it
any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
I personally dislike Teams for its slggishness and ugliness,
but it does works on Android devices. Have you considered
meeting in an IRC channel?
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
On 04/01/2023 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good?
Avoid, there is an active AI reading responses (it creepily autosuggests
chat to use if you have nothing to write) and machine generated
transcripts of conversations are easy to setup and abuse, particularly
if someone unknown has administrator rights.
If you are using this in a
company, you can bet your Boss knows pretty well everything about you,
the behaviour monitoring goes quite deep.
You just need a communications tool, end-to-end encrypted.
Have a look at WebEx from Cisico.
https://www.webex.com/
Or WhatsApp?
Zoom security during lockdown was found to be a bit of a joke. Dunno if
it has improved, but folks private meetings would occasionally get gatecrashed.
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
The transcripts are actually incredibly useful if you need to confirm notes or write minutes. You do have to be careful who you invite to meetings.
If you are using this in a
company, you can bet your Boss knows pretty well everything about you,
the behaviour monitoring goes quite deep.
Doubtful.
On 07/01/2023 14:04, Chris wrote:
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> wrote:
The transcripts are actually incredibly useful if you need to confirm notes >> or write minutes. You do have to be careful who you invite to meetings.
If you are using this in a
company, you can bet your Boss knows pretty well everything about you,
the behaviour monitoring goes quite deep.
Doubtful.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/manage-teams-overview
https://financesonline.com/news/microsoft-execs-hit-employee-monitoring-a-microsoft-teams-feature
Etc... Etc... Google is littered with software services providing
additional tracking features. Employees just don't know.
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
On 1/4/23 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Me (and the team that use it) are perhaps a bit more positive about
Teams than most here. Probably because we were forced to use Skype For Business before it. Anyway, if your Galaxy Tablet is fairly recent, and Android or Windows, there's an app. If Linux, just use it in Firefox or Chrome, as suggested above. There are also Android and iOS/iPadOS apps.
Mostly, it just works. My main bugbear is the search function in chat
is bloody awful. Safe depends on your definition of safe...
I'd prefer WhatsApp, but I assume the business doesn't get to see, let
alone own, anything we do in that.
On 1/4/23 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Me (and the team that use it) are perhaps a bit more positive about
Teams than most here.
Am 23.01.23 um 21:20 schrieb Jason H:
On 1/4/23 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Me (and the team that use it) are perhaps a bit more positive about
Teams than most here.
Today the knock-out of $MS$ and Services like Outlook, Office 365, Teams
and others does not help to build trust and confidence. Neither with
consumer nor with businesses.
Am 23.01.23 um 21:20 schrieb Jason H:
On 1/4/23 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Me (and the team that use it) are perhaps a bit more positive about
Teams than most here.
Today the knock-out of $MS$ and Services like Outlook, Office 365, Teams
and others does not help to build trust and confidence. Neither with
consumer nor with businesses.
Am 23.01.23 um 21:20 schrieb Jason H:
On 1/4/23 22:50, Davey wrote:
A group of which I am a member needs to hold an AGM soon, I am in East
Anglia, the meeting is near London, and one other participant is in
Sydney, OZ. One of the others has suggested 'Teams', which I see is an
MS programme. Is it any good? Can I use it on my Samsung Galaxy tablet?
Is it safe, which is what I usually worry about with anything MS.
I used Skype before, is 'Teams' a development of this?
Any guidance welcome, I know nothing about it.
TIA.
Me (and the team that use it) are perhaps a bit more positive about
Teams than most here. Probably because we were forced to use Skype For
Business before it. Anyway, if your Galaxy Tablet is fairly recent, and
Android or Windows, there's an app. If Linux, just use it in Firefox or
Chrome, as suggested above. There are also Android and iOS/iPadOS apps.
Mostly, it just works. My main bugbear is the search function in chat
is bloody awful. Safe depends on your definition of safe...
I'd prefer WhatsApp, but I assume the business doesn't get to see, let
alone own, anything we do in that.
WA is an absolute NoGo and very unprofessional in a business context.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Today the knock-out of $MS$ and Services like Outlook, Office 365, Teams
and others does not help to build trust and confidence. Neither with
consumer nor with businesses.
I doubt it would make any difference to business. What's the alternative?
All the big solutions suffer from outages of one sort or another. This one was relatively minor.
Am 26.01.23 um 18:19 schrieb Chris:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
Today the knock-out of $MS$ and Services like Outlook, Office 365, Teams >>> and others does not help to build trust and confidence. Neither with
consumer nor with businesses.
I doubt it would make any difference to business. What's the alternative?
All the big solutions suffer from outages of one sort or another. This one >> was relatively minor.
I tend to disagree. There are alternatives. Good ones btw.
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
I tend to disagree. There are alternatives. Good ones btw.
Notable that you don't give any examples. What are these good alternatives?
Am 27.01.23 um 09:02 schrieb Chris:
Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:
I tend to disagree. There are alternatives. Good ones btw.
Notable that you don't give any examples. What are these good alternatives?
I didn't and I won't because it is already OT.
It was a major outage: The whole world for almost half a day without Exchange, TEmas and much much more.
If $MS$ would have to pay for the
damage, they would be gone. Gone forever.
It was a major outage: The whole world for almost half a
day without Exchange, TEmas and much much more.
Joerg Lorenz:
It was a major outage: The whole world for almost half a
day without Exchange, TEmas and much much more.
That is what you get for monopolism and reliance upon
proprietary software that locks you inside it very own
ecosystem. A little diversity and interchangeablity (due to
open standards) would have prevented it. For example, is my
major Usenet server is goes down, I temporarily switch to
another.
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 294 |
| Nodes: | 16 (2 / 14) |
| Uptime: | 247:57:32 |
| Calls: | 6,626 |
| Calls today: | 2 |
| Files: | 12,175 |
| Messages: | 5,320,897 |