I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs which I won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time is ripe to
move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an
i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
Uses will be:
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good reputation. Facebook - any browser will do for that.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but
keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible. I'd like
to be free to choose layout, columns etc. without some programmer
deciding what I can see where. I'm also not keen on pop-ups asking me if
I want to connect a heap of social media apps to it. I am a miserable unsociable sod so nobody talks to me anyway.
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
Many thanks.
I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs
which I won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time
is ripe to move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with
an i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a
good choice?
Uses will be:
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good
reputation.
Facebook - any browser will do for that.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible. I'd
like to be free to choose layout, columns etc. without some
programmer deciding what I can see where.
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's
something else worth looking at.
On 11/17/2022 07:49 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs which I >>won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time is ripe to
move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an
i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good >>choice?
Uses will be:
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good reputation. >>Facebook - any browser will do for that.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but >>keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible. I'd like to >>be free to choose layout, columns etc. without some programmer deciding >>what I can see where. I'm also not keen on pop-ups asking me if I want to >>connect a heap of social media apps to it. I am a miserable unsociable
sod so nobody talks to me anyway.
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are >>hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
Many thanks.
I'm 79 and abandoned WinXP a decade ago when they wanted everything done >THEIR way.
I initially was referred to Ubuntu but I didn't like some parameter it
chose as default and I didn't discover how to change it. I read that
Ubuntu's roots were in Debian. I tried Debian and found it trivial {as a >newbie} to tweak just about everything to MY way.
I would suggest trying a live edition of both Ubuntu and Debian.
Ubuntu appears to be more bleeding edge - I don't see that as advantage.
YMMV ;/
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an
i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
Uses will be:
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good
reputation.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but
keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible.
I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are
hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an
i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
Personally, I dislike the default Ubuntu desktop as much as I dislike
Gnome desktops (and anything else that apes recent M$ desktops).
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with
an i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a
good choice?
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good
reputation.
Facebook - any browser will do for that.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but
keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible. I'd
like to be free to choose layout, columns etc. without some
programmer deciding what I can see where. I'm also not keen on
pop-ups asking me if I want to connect a heap of social media apps to
it. I am a miserable unsociable sod so nobody talks to me anyway.
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's
something else worth looking at.
Oh good, I won't be the oldest Linux user in the world :-)
I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs which I won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time is ripe to
move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
Uses will be:
Usenet, I know it's dying out but I like it.
Office apps - I use Word and Excel but Libre Office has a good reputation.
Facebook - any browser will do for that.
An Outlook like PIM, this is what has led to my frustration today but
keeping email, contacts and calendar together seems sensible. I'd like to
be free to choose layout, columns etc. without some programmer deciding
what I can see where. I'm also not keen on pop-ups asking me if I want to connect a heap of social media apps to it. I am a miserable unsociable sod
so nobody talks to me anyway.
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are hundreds of options for Linux.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate advice
on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something else worth looking at.
On 17/11/2022 13:49, Jeff Gaines wrote:
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
Many thanks for all the replies, you must all be my age and so retired
:-)
I have put Ubuntu on a Lenovo Thinkpad E490 and all seems well. I did
try Pan to reply but it crashed 3 times
The one thing that I haven't found a good replacement for yet is
Microsoft Access.
On 17.11.2022 at 14:40, Martin Gregorie scribbled:
Personally, I dislike the default Ubuntu desktop as much as I dislike
Gnome desktops (and anything else that apes recent M$ desktops).
Ubuntu is using GNOME these days. The Unity desktop was dropped
several years ago.
I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs which I won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time is ripe to
move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
Am 17.11.2022 um 13:49:13 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:
Programming - I use Visual Studio and like it but I imagine there are
hundreds of options for Linux.
For what languages?
VS doesn't work on Linux, but there are compilers and IDEs.
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:11:59 +0000, Chris Green wrote:
The one thing that I haven't found a good replacement for yet is
Microsoft Access.
Try PostgreSQL. Its about the best SQL database I've used and has minimal support requirements (apart from taking backups), and professionally I've used Sybase (M$ SQLServer was a clone of Sybase 10), Oracle, and DEC's VAX database as well as Access.
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate advice
on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something else worth >looking at.
Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:11:59 +0000, Chris Green wrote:It's not the underlying database is the issue it's the front-end for
The one thing that I haven't found a good replacement for yet isTry PostgreSQL. Its about the best SQL database I've used and has minimal
Microsoft Access.
support requirements (apart from taking backups), and professionally I've
used Sybase (M$ SQLServer was a clone of Sybase 10), Oracle, and DEC's VAX >> database as well as Access.
building applications. Access is great for building a desktop program
that uses the underlying database.
There are lots of excellent databases for Linux but no particularly
good application builder.
On 17/11/2022 in message <xn0npgtgmavm15w00o@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate
advice on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something
else worth looking at.
Another update, back in Windows as my brain hurts. :-)
I have just installed Debian on a Lenovo S440 three times. It doesn't
seem to find the WiFi hardware and it really doesn't want to install
without a network. Ii did manage to install it in the end but it just
booted into a command prompt which left me cold! The second and third attempts were to try and get a graphical interface but no go.
I think the WiFi problem is that there is no free driver, I might be
able to get round it by running a cable to the network but I wonder if
it might continue to give problems.
I don't know about the graphical interface, perhaps a consequence of the
lack of a working network?
My inclination at this stage is to stick to Ubuntu because it goes on
easily and it works, no more until tomorrow though!
It's not the underlying database is the issue it's the front-end for
building applications. Access is great for building a desktop program
that uses the underlying database.
On 17/11/2022 in message <xn0npgtgmavm15w00o@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:
Not going to get involved in an advocacy war, would just appreciate advice >> on whether to follow the herd to Ubuntu or if there's something else worth >> looking at.
Another update, back in Windows as my brain hurts. :-)
I have just installed Debian on a Lenovo S440 three times. It doesn't seem
to find the WiFi hardware and it really doesn't want to install without a network. Ii did manage to install it in the end but it just booted into a command prompt which left me cold! The second and third attempts were to
try and get a graphical interface but no go.
I think the WiFi problem is that there is no free driver, I might be able
to get round it by running a cable to the network but I wonder if it might continue to give problems.
I don't know about the graphical interface, perhaps a consequence of the
lack of a working network?
My inclination at this stage is to stick to Ubuntu because it goes on
easily and it works, no more until tomorrow though!
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:46:16 +0000, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:11:59 +0000, Chris Green wrote:It's not the underlying database is the issue it's the front-end for building applications. Access is great for building a desktop program
The one thing that I haven't found a good replacement for yet isTry PostgreSQL. Its about the best SQL database I've used and has minimal >> support requirements (apart from taking backups), and professionally I've >> used Sybase (M$ SQLServer was a clone of Sybase 10), Oracle, and DEC's VAX >> database as well as Access.
Microsoft Access.
that uses the underlying database.
There are lots of excellent databases for Linux but no particularly
good application builder.
I guess LibreOffice Base or Kexi I guess are the closest alternatives.
But really the Linux way is to actually write a front end in a proper programming language.
My inclination at this stage is to stick to Ubuntu because it goes on >>easily and it works, no more until tomorrow though!
Honestly, I'm not surprised. I don't understand why people recommended >debian; it was never designed for first timers. Ubuntu is meant to be ready >to use and is built on top of debian.
However, I would recommend you the different variants as well to see what >fits you best: kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu MATE.
I think the WiFi problem is that there is no free driver, I might be
able to get round it by running a cable to the network but I wonder if
it might continue to give problems.
I don't know about the graphical interface, perhaps a consequence of the >>lack of a working network?
My inclination at this stage is to stick to Ubuntu because it goes on >>easily and it works, no more until tomorrow though!
I've installed successfully from
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including- >firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
Well actually from an earlier version 11. The one above is current. It >includes firmware wifi drivers. This is a long standing problem where
the standard debian iso doesn't include any non-free drivers but they are >included in Ubuntu and other distribution derived from debian.
I managed in the end but the network connection is critical to getting
the graphical interface - see reply to Kit Jackson. I think there is
some cachet in being able to say "I installed Debian", perhaps not as
much as being able to say "I am an astrophysicist" but close :-)
On 18/11/2022 in message <tl7d24$2t4iv$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
My inclination at this stage is to stick to Ubuntu because it goes on
easily and it works, no more until tomorrow though!
Honestly, I'm not surprised. I don't understand why people recommended
debian; it was never designed for first timers. Ubuntu is meant to be ready >> to use and is built on top of debian.
I managed in the end but the network connection is critical to getting the graphical interface - see reply to Kit Jackson. I think there is some
cachet in being able to say "I installed Debian", perhaps not as much as being able to say "I am an astrophysicist" but close :-)
However, I would recommend you the different variants as well to see what
fits you best: kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu MATE.
There's loads of them, I wonder about Ubuntu Budgie in homage to Mike
Tindall in the Jungle but I think either Lubuntu or Ubuntu Mate as being lightweight versions.
Thanks for the input :-)
I have had an unbelievably frustrating day with 4 x Windows PIMs which I won't go in to but I feel at the age of 75 perhaps the time is ripe to
move to Linux.
It seems Ubuntu is the distribution of the moment, I will start with an
i5 laptop and it can have the whole machine to itself, is Ubuntu a good choice?
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