• Zoon with Alsa and Fedora

    From William Unruh@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Mar 23 16:47:21 2021
    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:30:16 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    When you have joined a group, click on the green shield in the top left
    corner and read off the version number.

    Alternatively cat /opt/zoom/version.txt

    Done that, thanks: found there's a later version, 5.6.13558.0321, so I've downloaded that and upgraded Zoom (sudo rpm -U zoom_x86_64.rpm).

    The end result is the same:

    - the speakers are working (Both the Pulse Audio control panel and the
    Zoom Settings panel show dancing signal bars and the Zoom output level
    control adjusts the Alsa level setting.

    - the mics are working according to the Pulse Audio control panel, and,
    with Zoom's Automatic mic level turned off, the Zoom input level control
    also controls the Pulse Audio microphone level, but, while the Pulse
    Audio control panel shows the mic to be picking up ambient sound as
    well as my coughs, whistles and finger clicks, the signal is not
    showing up on the Zoom settings display and is not being sent to my
    speakers.

    I had a quick scan over the logs but, although I saw audio activatins and deactivations, saw no errors or warnings.

    Sond can be temperamental. Check that sound is not muted.
    Open the sound icon (the speaker withsound radiating icon on the
    application bar) and then open the audio mixer Open Recording. There
    should be a zoom entry. Make sure that it is open.

    Nothing is muted on the Zoom Settings panel.

    Is there some other panel you're expecting me to see? I'm using the XFCE desktop and the only panels I'm aware of that control audio settings are
    the Pulse Audio control panel and the Zoom Settings panel.

    On the app bar (on my XFCE it is on the top of the screen) on the left
    side, there is a little icon of a loudspeaker with coincentric part
    circles increasing to represent sound coming from a speaker. Click on
    that and then click on the tiny text at the bottom saying "Audio Mixer"
    go toPlayback and see if Zoom is there and has non-zero volume. Also go
    to Output devices.



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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to William Unruh on Tue Mar 23 18:20:28 2021
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:47:21 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:30:16 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    When you have joined a group, click on the green shield in the top
    left corner and read off the version number.

    Alternatively cat /opt/zoom/version.txt

    Done that, thanks: found there's a later version, 5.6.13558.0321, so
    I've downloaded that and upgraded Zoom (sudo rpm -U zoom_x86_64.rpm).

    The end result is the same:

    - the speakers are working (Both the Pulse Audio control panel and the
    Zoom Settings panel show dancing signal bars and the Zoom output
    level control adjusts the Alsa level setting.

    - the mics are working according to the Pulse Audio control panel, and,
    with Zoom's Automatic mic level turned off, the Zoom input level
    control also controls the Pulse Audio microphone level, but, while
    the Pulse Audio control panel shows the mic to be picking up ambient
    sound as well as my coughs, whistles and finger clicks, the signal is
    not showing up on the Zoom settings display and is not being sent to
    my speakers.

    I had a quick scan over the logs but, although I saw audio activatins
    and deactivations, saw no errors or warnings.

    Sond can be temperamental. Check that sound is not muted.
    Open the sound icon (the speaker withsound radiating icon on the
    application bar) and then open the audio mixer Open Recording. There
    should be a zoom entry. Make sure that it is open.

    Nothing is muted on the Zoom Settings panel.

    Is there some other panel you're expecting me to see? I'm using the
    XFCE desktop and the only panels I'm aware of that control audio
    settings are the Pulse Audio control panel and the Zoom Settings panel.

    On the app bar (on my XFCE it is on the top of the screen) on the left
    side, there is a little icon of a loudspeaker with coincentric part
    circles increasing to represent sound coming from a speaker. Click on
    that and then click on the tiny text at the bottom saying "Audio Mixer"
    go to Playback and see if Zoom is there and has non-zero volume. Also go
    to Output devices.

    No,I don't appear to have that - . All I have (outside Zooms own
    controls) is the Pulse Audio Volume control which is in the MultiMedia
    2nd level menu. If you can tell me its name I can discover which package
    its in and install it.


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  • From William Unruh@21:1/5 to William Unruh on Tue Mar 23 23:10:03 2021
    On 2021-03-23, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:47:21 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:30:16 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    When you have joined a group, click on the green shield in the top
    left corner and read off the version number.

    Alternatively cat /opt/zoom/version.txt

    Done that, thanks: found there's a later version, 5.6.13558.0321, so
    I've downloaded that and upgraded Zoom (sudo rpm -U zoom_x86_64.rpm).

    The end result is the same:

    - the speakers are working (Both the Pulse Audio control panel and the >>>> Zoom Settings panel show dancing signal bars and the Zoom output
    level control adjusts the Alsa level setting.

    - the mics are working according to the Pulse Audio control panel, and, >>>> with Zoom's Automatic mic level turned off, the Zoom input level
    control also controls the Pulse Audio microphone level, but, while
    the Pulse Audio control panel shows the mic to be picking up ambient >>>> sound as well as my coughs, whistles and finger clicks, the signal is >>>> not showing up on the Zoom settings display and is not being sent to >>>> my speakers.

    I had a quick scan over the logs but, although I saw audio activatins
    and deactivations, saw no errors or warnings.

    Sond can be temperamental. Check that sound is not muted.
    Open the sound icon (the speaker withsound radiating icon on the
    application bar) and then open the audio mixer Open Recording. There >>>>> should be a zoom entry. Make sure that it is open.

    Nothing is muted on the Zoom Settings panel.

    Is there some other panel you're expecting me to see? I'm using the
    XFCE desktop and the only panels I'm aware of that control audio
    settings are the Pulse Audio control panel and the Zoom Settings panel. >>>
    On the app bar (on my XFCE it is on the top of the screen) on the left
    side, there is a little icon of a loudspeaker with coincentric part
    circles increasing to represent sound coming from a speaker. Click on
    that and then click on the tiny text at the bottom saying "Audio Mixer"
    go to Playback and see if Zoom is there and has non-zero volume. Also go >>> to Output devices.

    No,I don't appear to have that - . All I have (outside Zooms own
    controls) is the Pulse Audio Volume control which is in the MultiMedia
    2nd level menu. If you can tell me its name I can discover which package
    its in and install it.

    Looking at what it runs it appears to be that same one (pavucontrol)
    At this point I have run out of suggestions.

    Another question, are you sure that you are using the correxct
    microphone. On my system, I have both the system sound, and webcam. The
    system has no microphone plugged into the soundcard. The usb webcam has
    one and is what I use and select.




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  • From William Unruh@21:1/5 to Martin Gregorie on Tue Mar 23 23:05:21 2021
    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:47:21 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:30:16 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    When you have joined a group, click on the green shield in the top
    left corner and read off the version number.

    Alternatively cat /opt/zoom/version.txt

    Done that, thanks: found there's a later version, 5.6.13558.0321, so
    I've downloaded that and upgraded Zoom (sudo rpm -U zoom_x86_64.rpm).

    The end result is the same:

    - the speakers are working (Both the Pulse Audio control panel and the
    Zoom Settings panel show dancing signal bars and the Zoom output
    level control adjusts the Alsa level setting.

    - the mics are working according to the Pulse Audio control panel, and,
    with Zoom's Automatic mic level turned off, the Zoom input level
    control also controls the Pulse Audio microphone level, but, while
    the Pulse Audio control panel shows the mic to be picking up ambient
    sound as well as my coughs, whistles and finger clicks, the signal is
    not showing up on the Zoom settings display and is not being sent to
    my speakers.

    I had a quick scan over the logs but, although I saw audio activatins
    and deactivations, saw no errors or warnings.

    Sond can be temperamental. Check that sound is not muted.
    Open the sound icon (the speaker withsound radiating icon on the
    application bar) and then open the audio mixer Open Recording. There
    should be a zoom entry. Make sure that it is open.

    Nothing is muted on the Zoom Settings panel.

    Is there some other panel you're expecting me to see? I'm using the
    XFCE desktop and the only panels I'm aware of that control audio
    settings are the Pulse Audio control panel and the Zoom Settings panel.

    On the app bar (on my XFCE it is on the top of the screen) on the left
    side, there is a little icon of a loudspeaker with coincentric part
    circles increasing to represent sound coming from a speaker. Click on
    that and then click on the tiny text at the bottom saying "Audio Mixer"
    go to Playback and see if Zoom is there and has non-zero volume. Also go
    to Output devices.

    No,I don't appear to have that - . All I have (outside Zooms own
    controls) is the Pulse Audio Volume control which is in the MultiMedia
    2nd level menu. If you can tell me its name I can discover which package
    its in and install it.

    Looking at what it runs it appears to be that same one (pavucontrol)
    At this point I have run out of suggestions.




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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to William Unruh on Wed Mar 24 08:07:17 2021
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:10:03 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    On 2021-03-23, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 16:47:21 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    On 2021-03-23, Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 02:30:16 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    When you have joined a group, click on the green shield in the top >>>>>> left corner and read off the version number.

    Alternatively cat /opt/zoom/version.txt

    Done that, thanks: found there's a later version, 5.6.13558.0321, so >>>>> I've downloaded that and upgraded Zoom (sudo rpm -U
    zoom_x86_64.rpm).

    The end result is the same:

    - the speakers are working (Both the Pulse Audio control panel and
    the
    Zoom Settings panel show dancing signal bars and the Zoom output
    level control adjusts the Alsa level setting.

    - the mics are working according to the Pulse Audio control panel,
    and,
    with Zoom's Automatic mic level turned off, the Zoom input level
    control also controls the Pulse Audio microphone level, but, while >>>>> the Pulse Audio control panel shows the mic to be picking up
    ambient sound as well as my coughs, whistles and finger clicks,
    the signal is not showing up on the Zoom settings display and is
    not being sent to my speakers.

    I had a quick scan over the logs but, although I saw audio
    activatins and deactivations, saw no errors or warnings.

    Sond can be temperamental. Check that sound is not muted.
    Open the sound icon (the speaker withsound radiating icon on the
    application bar) and then open the audio mixer Open Recording.
    There should be a zoom entry. Make sure that it is open.

    Nothing is muted on the Zoom Settings panel.

    Is there some other panel you're expecting me to see? I'm using the
    XFCE desktop and the only panels I'm aware of that control audio
    settings are the Pulse Audio control panel and the Zoom Settings
    panel.

    On the app bar (on my XFCE it is on the top of the screen) on the
    left side, there is a little icon of a loudspeaker with coincentric
    part circles increasing to represent sound coming from a speaker.
    Click on that and then click on the tiny text at the bottom saying
    "Audio Mixer" go to Playback and see if Zoom is there and has
    non-zero volume. Also go to Output devices.

    No,I don't appear to have that - . All I have (outside Zooms own
    controls) is the Pulse Audio Volume control which is in the MultiMedia
    2nd level menu. If you can tell me its name I can discover which
    package its in and install it.

    Looking at what it runs it appears to be that same one (pavucontrol)
    At this point I have run out of suggestions.

    Another question, are you sure that you are using the correxct
    microphone. On my system, I have both the system sound, and webcam. The system has no microphone plugged into the soundcard. The usb webcam has
    one and is what I use and select.

    Yes. There's a built-in stereo mic pair which Pulse audio is using
    without any issues - at least, judging by the way the level bar in its
    control panel dances when I make noises. The problem, at least as I see
    it, is that Zoom doesn't get a sound feed from Pulse Audio though it
    knows it exists because adjusting the Zoom input level changes the Pulse
    level setting.

    It is worth raising this issue with Zoom? I ask this, because on initial contact they seem remarkably unhelpful and unfriendly, at least to those,
    like me, who sign up for a free login. Quite a contrast with Red Hat.


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  • From Martin Gregorie@21:1/5 to William Unruh on Wed Mar 24 08:09:00 2021
    On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:05:21 +0000, William Unruh wrote:

    Looking at what it runs it appears to be that same one (pavucontrol)
    At this point I have run out of suggestions.


    OK. Thanks for your suggestions.






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