I have a Wireless connection from my router to a repeater outside in
the garage. Each of these has a stick antenna, maybe 4 inches or so
long, on a ball joint.
What is the correct orientation for these sticks? Should they both
point straight upwards, should they point at each other, away from each
other, parallel to each other, or what? Neither device's 'manual' gives
any clue, and the connection occasionally fails, so I'm trying to get
the best setup.

Thanks for help.

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Davey.

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On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 01:21:12 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:

I have a Wireless connection from my router to a repeater outside in
the garage. Each of these has a stick antenna, maybe 4 inches or so
long, on a ball joint.
What is the correct orientation for these sticks? Should they both
point straight upwards, should they point at each other, away from each >other, parallel to each other, or what? Neither device's 'manual' gives
any clue, and the connection occasionally fails, so I'm trying to get
the best setup.

A vertical antenna with no additional elements has no directional
properties. Assuming there is only one stick on each unit. the best
you can do is experiment. Orient the sticks vertically
at both the router and the access points vertically and try
that, then try horizontal then 45° and so on.

'Each of these has _a_ stick antenna' contradicts 'should _they_
both_ point ...'.

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:08:21 +0000
Jim <Cheemag@hotmail.com> wrote:

A vertical antenna with no additional elements has no directional properties. Assuming there is only one stick on each unit. the best
you can do is experiment. Orient the sticks vertically
at both the router and the access points vertically and try
that, then try horizontal then 45° and so on.

'Each of these has _a_ stick antenna' contradicts 'should _they_
both_ point ...'.

Why?

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:20:49 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:08:21 +0000
Jim <Cheemag@hotmail.com> wrote:

A vertical antenna with no additional elements has no directional properties. Assuming there is only one stick on each unit. the best
you can do is experiment. Orient the sticks vertically
at both the router and the access points vertically and try
that, then try horizontal then 45° and so on.

'Each of these has _a_ stick antenna' contradicts 'should _they_
both_ point ...'.

Why?

I can see why he thinks that, and also why I think he's mistaken, but
I'm not sure how to explain it in grammatical terms. "They" appears to
be referring to "a stick antenna" but it's actually referring to the
antennae of both devices ("these").

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 02:36:00 +0000
Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:20:49 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:08:21 +0000
Jim <Cheemag@hotmail.com> wrote:

A vertical antenna with no additional elements has no
directional properties. Assuming there is only one stick on each
unit. the best you can do is experiment. Orient the sticks
vertically at both the router and the access points vertically
and try that, then try horizontal then 45° and so on.

'Each of these has _a_ stick antenna' contradicts 'should _they_
both_ point ...'.

Why?

I can see why he thinks that, and also why I think he's mistaken, but
I'm not sure how to explain it in grammatical terms. "They" appears
to be referring to "a stick antenna" but it's actually referring to
the antennae of both devices ("these").

Exactly. 'They' refers to the pair of them. I hate the common use of
'they' when used immediately after a singular reference, but this is
not one of them.

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:45:24 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 02:36:00 +0000
Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2017 00:20:49 +0000
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

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I can see why he thinks that, and also why I think he's mistaken,
but I'm not sure how to explain it in grammatical terms. "They"
appears to be referring to "a stick antenna" but it's actually
referring to the antennae of both devices ("these").

Exactly. 'They' refers to the pair of them. I hate the common use of
'they' when used immediately after a singular reference, but this is
not one of them.

As for the angle of dangle, parallel isn't quite there. Imagine a
straight line joining the two antennae, then set them parallel to each
other and perpendicular to that line.

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:42:58 +0000
Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

As for the angle of dangle, parallel isn't quite there. Imagine a
straight line joining the two antennae, then set them parallel to each
other and perpendicular to that line.

OK, I see what you mean, they could be parallel but offset. And since
the question was posed, one of them has been replaced with a higher-gain antenna, which is flat; this increased the reliability substantially.
Another improvement was made by trying different channels, and finding
one that is more reliable than the one previously in use.

Thanks for thoughts.

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