• Laptop advice

    From Daniel James@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 15:18:45 2016
    I have a Toshiba Tecra laptop that was bought refurbished from Morgans
    in 2009, when they still had a glass and concrete shop in New Oxford
    Street. It came with Vista and was upgraded to XP dual booting with
    Linux, and has been Linux-only since about 2011.

    It was a fairly high spec for it's day and has been upgraded a few
    times, but it has reached the stage where the battery is totally dead
    and replacing it would feel like good money after bad ... so I'm
    looking for something for the next 5-8 years.

    I'm after something that weighs less than 2kg (preferably not more than
    1.5kg) -- so probably 13.3" or 14" -- and has at least FHD display (the
    more the merrier) with all-day battery life. Wired ethernet would be
    nice, and an internal LTE modem would be good too.

    I need a minimum of 8GB of RAM, preferably more, and at least 500GB of
    storage; I'd be happy with a spinning rust disk -- speed is not that
    important to me -- and I'm reluctant to pay what it (still!) costs for
    a 1TB+ SSD though there seems little option, these days. It'd be nice
    if the RAM and main storage were replaceable/upgradeable -- the disk especially, as I tend to upgrade an OS by installing a clean (and
    larger) drive and doing a fresh install so that I have the old setup as
    a backup.

    I've looked at Dell XPS machines (attractive because you can buy it
    configured with Ubuntu), the Lenovo Thinkpad Carbon, a couple of HP
    ("Envy") models, and the 13" MacBook Pro. They're all expensive devices
    but not outside my budgetary constraints ... I just don't know how to
    choose between them ... and in absence of any actual physical shops
    where you can go and actually poke at things I'm finding it difficult
    to find out.

    The Mac is the only one with 16:10 display, and I don't much like 16:9.
    The Lenovo is the only one that can be had with an LTE modem. The HP is
    the only one with wired ethernet.

    Does anyone here have first-hand experience of any of these models and
    if so can you tell me what you like and what you don't about them, and
    how well they stand up to reasonable wear?

    Finally -- is there any other make/model that might meet my
    requirements that I haven't thought of?

    Thanks.
    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Rob Morley@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon May 2 16:55:01 2016
    On Mon, 2 May 2016 16:22:43 +0100
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    Try:

    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops

    Why would anyone want the hassle of importing a laptop?

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Daniel James on Mon May 2 16:22:43 2016
    On Mon, 02 May 2016 15:18:45 +0100
    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:

    I have a Toshiba Tecra laptop that was bought refurbished from
    Morgans in 2009, when they still had a glass and concrete shop in New
    Oxford Street. It came with Vista and was upgraded to XP dual booting
    with Linux, and has been Linux-only since about 2011.

    It was a fairly high spec for it's day and has been upgraded a few
    times, but it has reached the stage where the battery is totally dead
    and replacing it would feel like good money after bad ... so I'm
    looking for something for the next 5-8 years.

    I'm after something that weighs less than 2kg (preferably not more
    than 1.5kg) -- so probably 13.3" or 14" -- and has at least FHD
    display (the more the merrier) with all-day battery life. Wired
    ethernet would be nice, and an internal LTE modem would be good too.

    I need a minimum of 8GB of RAM, preferably more, and at least 500GB
    of storage; I'd be happy with a spinning rust disk -- speed is not
    that important to me -- and I'm reluctant to pay what it (still!)
    costs for a 1TB+ SSD though there seems little option, these days.
    It'd be nice if the RAM and main storage were replaceable/upgradeable
    -- the disk especially, as I tend to upgrade an OS by installing a
    clean (and larger) drive and doing a fresh install so that I have the
    old setup as a backup.

    I've looked at Dell XPS machines (attractive because you can buy it configured with Ubuntu), the Lenovo Thinkpad Carbon, a couple of HP
    ("Envy") models, and the 13" MacBook Pro. They're all expensive
    devices but not outside my budgetary constraints ... I just don't
    know how to choose between them ... and in absence of any actual
    physical shops where you can go and actually poke at things I'm
    finding it difficult to find out.

    The Mac is the only one with 16:10 display, and I don't much like
    16:9. The Lenovo is the only one that can be had with an LTE modem.
    The HP is the only one with wired ethernet.

    Does anyone here have first-hand experience of any of these models
    and if so can you tell me what you like and what you don't about
    them, and how well they stand up to reasonable wear?

    Finally -- is there any other make/model that might meet my
    requirements that I haven't thought of?

    Thanks.

    Try:

    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops

    I have an RV511, that I am very happy with. It's now about three
    and a half years old, I think.

    --
    Davey.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Rob Morley on Mon May 2 18:28:46 2016
    On Mon, 2 May 2016 16:55:01 +0100
    Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 2 May 2016 16:22:43 +0100
    Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:

    Try:

    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops

    Why would anyone want the hassle of importing a laptop?


    That just happened to be the first website that came up with a Search,
    I didn't know they had stopped selling them here. They sell tablets
    with keyboards:

    http://shop.samsung.com/uk/tabpro-s-bundles/

    A shame they don't sell the laptops any more, I am very happy with
    mine.

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    Davey.

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon May 2 19:12:16 2016
    In article <ng7rc3$9s$1@n102.xanadu-bbs.net>, Davey wrote:
    Try:

    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/laptops

    I have an RV511, that I am very happy with.

    Apart from the fact that Samsung don't seem to sell laptops over here
    any more, I need more disk space than the 256GB that is all that
    Samsung offer, and an option for 16GB would be nice.

    <rant>
    Samsung isn't a brand that I find inspires much trust. I have had a
    Samsung phone and I have a Samsung tablet -- they're both very nicely
    made but they're both abandonware, now, being about 4 years old and
    unable to update Android past KitKat. They were both within the
    statutory EU warranty period of 2 years when Lollipop came out and it's unforgivable that that upgrade wasn't offered (morally, if not
    legally).

    I also find that Samsung is a particularly lacking in Linux
    friendliness ... I have a Samsung DVD writer in my main desktop PC, and
    found that it needed a firmware upgrade to be able to read music CDs
    correctly. I was somewhat unimpressed at having to remove the drive and
    place it in a Windows PC to achieve the upgrade. A firmware upgrade
    should be OS agnostic.
    </rant>

    Thanks for the thought, though. It's all grist to the mill.

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 11 13:51:40 2016
    In article <VA.00000b8c.00a5473b@me.invalid>, I wrote:
    I'm after something that weighs less than 2kg (preferably not
    more than 1.5kg) -- so probably 13.3" or 14" -- and has at least FHD
    display (the more the merrier) with all-day battery life. Wired
    ethernet would be nice, and an internal LTE modem would be good too.

    I need a minimum of 8GB of RAM, preferably more, and at least 500GB
    of storage; I'd be happy with a spinning rust disk -- speed is not
    that important to me -- and I'm reluctant to pay what it (still!)
    costs for a 1TB+ SSD though there seems little option, these days.
    It'd be nice if the RAM and main storage were replaceable/upgradeable
    -- the disk especially, as I tend to upgrade an OS by installing a
    clean (and larger) drive and doing a fresh install so that I have
    the old setup as a backup.

    I was expecting a flood of useful advice, but usenet is sadly neglected
    these days! Thanks to those who did respond.

    I ended up getting a Lenovo Thinkpad T460p. A little bigger and heavier
    than I ideally wanted but a shade under 1.7kg so not too bad -- makes my
    old Toshiba look huge and clunky. It's a 16:9 display but most of my
    other requirements are met. I couldn't get it without Windows, but even
    with the "Microsoft Tax" it was within budget, especially as Lenovo
    were running a discount offer over the bank holiday.

    The keyboard quite good. Home and End are awkwardly placed, and the Ctrl
    and Fn keys should perhaps have been swapped (and can be, in software,
    but as the keys are different sizes you can't swap the key tops) but
    apart from that it's lovely to type on, and the 2560x1440 display is
    beautiful.

    It's a Skylake machine and not many Linux distros are up-to-date enough
    to support it -- Debian stable ran but didn't recognize most of the
    hardware (I gather Debian Testing does, with just one or two glitches)
    -- but Ubuntu (with Mate) is running nicely. I avoided the models with
    hybrid graphics which may be just as well.

    Just thought I should report back.
    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.

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  • From Rob Morley@21:1/5 to Daniel James on Sat Jun 11 14:36:27 2016
    On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:51:40 +0100
    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:

    I was expecting a flood of useful advice, but usenet is sadly
    neglected these days! Thanks to those who did respond.

    You picked the wrong bit of Usenet - uk.comp.homebuilt has become the general-purpose computing group.

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Rob Morley on Sun Jun 12 18:27:07 2016
    In article <20160611143627.28f96dd3@ntlworld.com>, Rob Morley wrote:
    You picked the wrong bit of Usenet - uk.comp.homebuilt has become the general-purpose computing group.

    Yeah, I know ... but my query would technically have been off-topic,
    there, and I do see many of the same names cropping here from time to
    time.

    It's a sad thing when one faces a choice between committing a breach of netiquette and not getting an answer ...

    --
    Cheers,
    Daniel.
    (off topic after all)

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  • From Rob Morley@21:1/5 to Daniel James on Sun Jun 12 19:12:50 2016
    On Sun, 12 Jun 2016 18:27:07 +0100
    Daniel James <daniel@me.invalid> wrote:

    It's a sad thing when one faces a choice between committing a breach
    of netiquette and not getting an answer ...

    Worry about that when someone (whose opinion you value) complains about
    that, not before. It is easier to ask forgiveness ...

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