• AT PSU

    From gargoyle60@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 6 11:33:30 2016
    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor PSUs?

    Thanks

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  • From Rob Morley@21:1/5 to gargoyle60@example.invalid on Sun Mar 6 14:51:17 2016
    On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 11:33:30 +0000
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT
    form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor
    PSUs?

    That's no going to be easy - either the cost will be high or you'll
    have no guarantee that the replacement isn't much better than your old
    one. It might even be worth trying to fix the dead one. Did it go
    bang or just fail to start?

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  • From gargoyle60@21:1/5 to Rob Morley on Mon Mar 7 09:55:28 2016
    On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:51:17 +0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 11:33:30 +0000
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT
    form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor
    PSUs?

    That's no going to be easy - either the cost will be high or you'll
    have no guarantee that the replacement isn't much better than your old
    one. It might even be worth trying to fix the dead one. Did it go
    bang or just fail to start?

    It just failed to start. Even the fan won't rotate. No humming, no noise whatsoever.
    No sign of life at all.

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  • From GlowingBlueMist@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 7 16:27:52 2016
    On 3/7/2016 3:55 AM, gargoyle60 wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:51:17 +0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 11:33:30 +0000
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT
    form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor
    PSUs?

    That's no going to be easy - either the cost will be high or you'll
    have no guarantee that the replacement isn't much better than your old
    one. It might even be worth trying to fix the dead one. Did it go
    bang or just fail to start?

    It just failed to start. Even the fan won't rotate. No humming, no noise whatsoever.
    No sign of life at all.

    That could be something as simple as a corroded start switch on the case
    of the PC. Try momentarily shorting the (power on) pins at the motherboard.

    You could also do the old paperclip power supply test but I forget the
    two pins you short on the power cable. The power supply should power on
    with out being attached to the motherboard with the correct jumper on
    the 20/24 pin connector.

    Plus I have seen some motherboards that will show the same results as
    yours if the motherboard battery is totally dead.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 7 22:47:19 2016
    On 06/03/16 11:33, gargoyle60 wrote:
    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor PSUs?

    If you are going to tell me that there finally IS a market for old AT
    power supplies, I might have to raid the garage, dispel the rats, apply
    some bleach and clean up. Lots of cases went there to die, tens of years
    ago.

    <looks at eBay>

    Ah, OK. Bleach it is.

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From gargoyle60@21:1/5 to GlowingBlueMist on Wed Mar 9 10:29:04 2016
    On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 16:27:52 -0600, GlowingBlueMist <GlowingBlueMist@blackhole.io> wrote:

    On 3/7/2016 3:55 AM, gargoyle60 wrote:
    On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:51:17 +0000, Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote: >>
    On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 11:33:30 +0000
    gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    My 18-year-old PC has suffered a PSU failure. I need a new 200W AT
    form factor PSU (not ATX).

    Does anybody know of a source for refurbished/2nd-hand AT form factor
    PSUs?

    That's no going to be easy - either the cost will be high or you'll
    have no guarantee that the replacement isn't much better than your old
    one. It might even be worth trying to fix the dead one. Did it go
    bang or just fail to start?

    It just failed to start. Even the fan won't rotate. No humming, no noise whatsoever.
    No sign of life at all.

    That could be something as simple as a corroded start switch on the case
    of the PC. Try momentarily shorting the (power on) pins at the motherboard.

    You could also do the old paperclip power supply test but I forget the
    two pins you short on the power cable. The power supply should power on
    with out being attached to the motherboard with the correct jumper on
    the 20/24 pin connector.

    Plus I have seen some motherboards that will show the same results as
    yours if the motherboard battery is totally dead.

    I suspected the motherboard battery and replaced it with a brand new one.

    I shall try the paperclip test, etc. as suggested.

    The motherboard has dual power, AT and ATX (20-pin) and luckily I have an old ATX PSU.

    I have tried the ATX PSU and although power is supplied and I can hear the hard disks whirring and
    can open the CD tray, nothing appears on the attached monitor screen. I have also replaced the VGA
    card with a new one but still there are no startup messages on the screen. I am wondering if this is
    a sign that when the original AT PSU blew it also did some damage to the motherboard, in which case
    the whole system is junk.

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  • From gargoyle60@21:1/5 to gargoyle60@example.invalid on Wed Mar 9 11:50:33 2016
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:29:04 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    I shall try the paperclip test, etc. as suggested.

    Update: tried with no power-on. It's a dodo!

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  • From gargoyle60@21:1/5 to gargoyle60@example.invalid on Sat Mar 19 09:28:50 2016
    On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 10:29:04 +0000, gargoyle60 <gargoyle60@example.invalid> wrote:

    I suspected the motherboard battery and replaced it with a brand new one.

    I shall try the paperclip test, etc. as suggested.

    The motherboard has dual power, AT and ATX (20-pin) and luckily I have an old ATX PSU.

    I have tried the ATX PSU and although power is supplied and I can hear the hard disks whirring and
    can open the CD tray, nothing appears on the attached monitor screen. I have also replaced the VGA
    card with a new one but still there are no startup messages on the screen.

    Update: tried another battery, reset the CMOS using the jumper and replaced the VGA card.
    Now it's all working again, so I guess I'll be able to squeeze a few more years of limited use out
    of this old kit. It runs Linux lubuntu reasonably well for such a slow and low-spec machine.

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