I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in >the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) >"Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could >find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with
a
clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a >paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get legal
licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Meanwhile, having discussed with the owner the likely loss of third-party >applications, the next step is to Refresh the existing Windows
installation (I
have an image of the disk in case things go wrong). An attempt to run:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
.. failed (huge log file with many instances of the string "fail" in it!), >which might be a clue to the underlying problem.
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) "Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with a clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Meanwhile, having discussed with the owner the likely loss of third-party applications, the next step is to Refresh the existing Windows installation (I
have an image of the disk in case things go wrong). An attempt to run:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
.. failed (huge log file with many instances of the string "fail" in it!), which might be a clue to the underlying problem.
On 27 Mar 2022 at 17:46:47 BST, "Philip Herlihy" <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code)
"Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with a >> clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a >> paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Win7 Pro licenses go for under a tenner. You can also just straight up
not bother to license it, all you lose is desktop backgrounds.
On 27 Mar 2022 at 17:46:47 BST, "Philip Herlihy" <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) "Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with a
clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Win7 Pro licenses go for under a tenner. You can also just straight up
not bother to license it, all you lose is desktop backgrounds.
Meanwhile, having discussed with the owner the likely loss of third-party applications, the next step is to Refresh the existing Windows installation (I
have an image of the disk in case things go wrong). An attempt to run:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
.. failed (huge log file with many instances of the string "fail" in it!), which might be a clue to the underlying problem.
You've done all the appropriate disk checking, and making a backup clone
of the disk (which of course reads every file) and such already?
I always default to a blank reinstall, it saves everyone a vast amount
of time.
Cheers - Jaimie
On 27/03/2022 in message <MPG.3caaa556f85b8e079899c6@news.eternal-september.org> Philip Herlihy
wrote:
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in >the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) >"Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could >find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with >a
clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a >paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get legal >licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Meanwhile, having discussed with the owner the likely loss of third-party >applications, the next step is to Refresh the existing Windows
installation (I
have an image of the disk in case things go wrong). An attempt to run:
DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth
.. failed (huge log file with many instances of the string "fail" in it!), >which might be a clue to the underlying problem.
I have done recent "upgrades" with both Win7 & Win8 licences with no
issues. It really is worth doing a clean install though.
Generally my luck is such that I'd attempt to activate a new W10 installation with a W7 license just after they finally pull the plug. I guess no-one is (yet?) selling genunine W10 licenses at a discount? Of course it was always possible to pay for an XP "license", but I saw a lot of machines which had had
their activation revoked, and I'd hate to leave my friend in that situation.
On 27 Mar 2022 at 18:27:55 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh" <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2022 at 17:46:47 BST, "Philip Herlihy" <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) >> "Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with a
clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a
paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Win7 Pro licenses go for under a tenner. You can also just straight up
not bother to license it, all you lose is desktop backgrounds.
Also a' Win7 license that's been used like this seems to free up again
after a while, it's the generated Win10 license that gets noted down at Microsoft's activation servers. So you can use it again, and it makes a *different* win10 license each time.
Cheers - Jaimie
Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
In article <jabl89FkfsqU1@mid.individual.net>, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote...
On 27 Mar 2022 at 18:27:55 BST, "Jaimie Vandenbergh"
<jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
On 27 Mar 2022 at 17:46:47 BST, "Philip Herlihy"
<PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:
I've been struggling to upgrade an Acer Aspire laptop from W8.1 to W10, in the
hope the free upgrade route still works for my friend.
I've tried six times so far - keeps failing with a bald message (no code) >>>> "Windows 10 installation has failed". I've tried every workaround I could find
online - still no joy. The "try this, then this..." sites all end up with a
clean installation, but (as I understand it) that's more likely to demand a
paid license for W10. Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses
at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
Win7 Pro licenses go for under a tenner. You can also just straight up
not bother to license it, all you lose is desktop backgrounds.
Also a' Win7 license that's been used like this seems to free up again
after a while, it's the generated Win10 license that gets noted down at
Microsoft's activation servers. So you can use it again, and it makes a
*different* win10 license each time.
Cheers - Jaimie
Golly: Microsoft really are perhaps more generous than they might realise!
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@slashdevnull.invalid> wrote:
Generally my luck is such that I'd attempt to activate a new W10 installation
with a W7 license just after they finally pull the plug. I guess no-one is (yet?) selling genunine W10 licenses at a discount? Of course it was always
possible to pay for an XP "license", but I saw a lot of machines which had had
their activation revoked, and I'd hate to leave my friend in that situation.
I saw these people mentioned in a StackOverflow post: https://softwareking24.de/
Apparently there was a court case in Germany regarding the 'doctrine of first sale' - basically, MS is allowed to sell a licence to somebody when a piece of hardware is first sold, but they don't get to prevent that person selling on the licence later. That means it's completely legit to sell on Windows, Office, etc licences that have been offered as part of a bulk licensing deal (perhaps with new hardware). And so Software King resell licences for cheap (eg Office 2021 for EUR20, Office 2019 for EUR7).
I have no experience, but it sounds attractive.
Theo
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 17:46:47 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
https://softwarebase.co.uk appear to be cheap and legal.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 17:46:47 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
Question: Is there anywhere you can get *legal* licenses at a healthy discount (if it turns out I need one)?
https://softwarebase.co.uk appear to be cheap and legal.
In article <bwE*XddKy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo wrote...
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@slashdevnull.invalid> wrote:
Generally my luck is such that I'd attempt to activate a new W10 installation
with a W7 license just after they finally pull the plug. I guess no-one is >>> (yet?) selling genunine W10 licenses at a discount? Of course it was always
possible to pay for an XP "license", but I saw a lot of machines which had had
their activation revoked, and I'd hate to leave my friend in that situation.
I saw these people mentioned in a StackOverflow post:
https://softwareking24.de/
Apparently there was a court case in Germany regarding the 'doctrine of first
sale' - basically, MS is allowed to sell a licence to somebody when a piece >> of hardware is first sold, but they don't get to prevent that person selling >> on the licence later. That means it's completely legit to sell on Windows, >> Office, etc licences that have been offered as part of a bulk licensing deal >> (perhaps with new hardware). And so Software King resell licences for cheap >> (eg Office 2021 for EUR20, Office 2019 for EUR7).
I have no experience, but it sounds attractive.
Theo
Much appreciated. Of course it may just be (as Chris suggested) that they don't care much, or that they don't think the prize of enforcing compliance is
worth the effort. And it may be that (as often happens) the vendor is making a
case that sounds plausible to the legally naive (as I am) but wouldn't hold water in court for a nanosecond. That in turn may depend on the jurisdiction.
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:
In article <bwE*XddKy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo wrote...
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@slashdevnull.invalid> wrote:
Generally my luck is such that I'd attempt to activate a new W10 installation
with a W7 license just after they finally pull the plug. I guess no-one is
(yet?) selling genunine W10 licenses at a discount? Of course it was always
possible to pay for an XP "license", but I saw a lot of machines which had had
their activation revoked, and I'd hate to leave my friend in that situation.
I saw these people mentioned in a StackOverflow post:
https://softwareking24.de/
Apparently there was a court case in Germany regarding the 'doctrine of first
sale' - basically, MS is allowed to sell a licence to somebody when a piece >>> of hardware is first sold, but they don't get to prevent that person selling
on the licence later. That means it's completely legit to sell on Windows, >>> Office, etc licences that have been offered as part of a bulk licensing deal
(perhaps with new hardware). And so Software King resell licences for cheap
(eg Office 2021 for EUR20, Office 2019 for EUR7).
I have no experience, but it sounds attractive.
Theo
Much appreciated. Of course it may just be (as Chris suggested) that they >> don't care much, or that they don't think the prize of enforcing compliance is
worth the effort. And it may be that (as often happens) the vendor is making a
case that sounds plausible to the legally naive (as I am) but wouldn't hold >> water in court for a nanosecond. That in turn may depend on the jurisdiction.
Tech is all about the platform these days so having more people with
windows as their platform is more important that making sure they've all
paid for it.
Obviously they're going to get as many to pay for it possible and deal withthe most egregious "thefts", but you or I with single personal copies? nah.
On 28/03/2022 14:07, Chris wrote:details of 30% discount here:
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:Philip this from britec explains activation
In article <bwE*XddKy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo wrote...
Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@slashdevnull.invalid> wrote:
Generally my luck is such that I'd attempt to activate a new W10
installation
with a W7 license just after they finally pull the plug. I guess
no-one is
(yet?) selling genunine W10 licenses at a discount? Of course it
was always
possible to pay for an XP "license", but I saw a lot of machines
which had had
their activation revoked, and I'd hate to leave my friend in that
situation.
I saw these people mentioned in a StackOverflow post:
https://softwareking24.de/
Apparently there was a court case in Germany regarding the 'doctrine
of first
sale' - basically, MS is allowed to sell a licence to somebody when
a piece
of hardware is first sold, but they don't get to prevent that person
selling
on the licence later. That means it's completely legit to sell on
Windows,
Office, etc licences that have been offered as part of a bulk
licensing deal
(perhaps with new hardware). And so Software King resell licences
for cheap
(eg Office 2021 for EUR20, Office 2019 for EUR7).
I have no experience, but it sounds attractive.
Theo
Much appreciated. Of course it may just be (as Chris suggested) that
they
don't care much, or that they don't think the prize of enforcing
compliance is
worth the effort. And it may be that (as often happens) the vendor
is making a
case that sounds plausible to the legally naive (as I am) but
wouldn't hold
water in court for a nanosecond. That in turn may depend on the
jurisdiction.
Tech is all about the platform these days so having more people with
windows as their platform is more important that making sure they've all
paid for it.
Obviously they're going to get as many to pay for it possible and deal
withthe most egregious "thefts", but you or I with single personal
copies?
nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ahhewn1Gw
If you look at some of his other videos on his channel he is sponsored
by a license key seller and offers a discount code from britec which
will get you discount on the purchase of a key.
Website's down at the moment!
On 28/03/2022 14:07, Chris wrote:...
Philip this from britec explains activation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ahhewn1Gw
If you look at some of his other videos on his channel he is sponsored
by a license key seller and offers a discount code from britec which
will get you discount on the purchase of a key.
On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 11:40:29 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
Website's down at the moment!
Sorry, my mistake, the correct URL is https://softwarebase.uk there's
no .co
The Other John wrote...
Philip Herlihy wrote:
Website's down at the moment!
Sorry, my mistake, the correct URL is https://softwarebase.uk there's
no .co
Thanks. Daft of them not to register the .co.uk version as well!
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