On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send such
a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know the answer
then move on.
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks ago.
It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks ago.
It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:I think if your friend had changed his bios away from secure boot
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send
such a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know
the answer then move on.
he/she would have been able to keep on W10. Also note that MS have
added the requirement of a MS account for W11 pro now.
On 23/02/2022 17:13, Andy wrote:
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:I think if your friend had changed his bios away from secure boot
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send
such a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know
the answer then move on.
he/she would have been able to keep on W10. Also note that MS have
added the requirement of a MS account for W11 pro now.
That's where they will fall over and Apple will win.
Bad move, user should always have choice of having an account or not.
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:I think if your friend had changed his bios away from secure boot he/she would have been able to keep on W10. Also note that MS have added the requirement of a MS account for W11 pro now.
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send
such a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know the
answer then move on.
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send such
a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know the answer
then move on.
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks ago. >>>>It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send such
a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know the answer >>then move on.
You asked a loaded question, implying that OS upgrades are 'trickery'.
I was merely pointing out that most OS's will upgrade automatically. >Sometimes, there's an option not to do that, but the default is usually to >upgrade. For most ordinary users, that's entirely sensible.
You haven't said in what way your friend was tricked?
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv60bc$gdd$1@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of
weeks ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send
such a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know
the answer then move on.
You asked a loaded question, implying that OS upgrades are 'trickery'.
I was merely pointing out that most OS's will upgrade automatically.
Sometimes, there's an option not to do that, but the default is
usually to upgrade. For most ordinary users, that's entirely sensible.
You haven't said in what way your friend was tricked?
I can only assume you weren't born when we needed GWX to prevent Windows
< 10 from automatically upgrading to 10. Neither Windows nor OS X had automatically upgraded before then to a new version, in fact mu Mac Mini
M1 always asks and Windows doesn't offer (I'm on 8.1 out of choice).
On 23/02/2022 20:39, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv60bc$gdd$1@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks >>>>>>ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send such >>>>a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know the answer >>>>then move on.
You asked a loaded question, implying that OS upgrades are 'trickery'.
I was merely pointing out that most OS's will upgrade automatically. >>>Sometimes, there's an option not to do that, but the default is usually >>>to upgrade. For most ordinary users, that's entirely sensible.
You haven't said in what way your friend was tricked?
I can only assume you weren't born when we needed GWX to prevent Windows
< 10 from automatically upgrading to 10. Neither Windows nor OS X had >>automatically upgraded before then to a new version, in fact mu Mac Mini
M1 always asks and Windows doesn't offer (I'm on 8.1 out of choice).
If you are choosing W8.1, I can see why you don't want to be challenged
about OS upgrades for yourself.
Would you agree/disagree with the notion that automatic upgrades are, on >balance, a 'good thing' for ordinary users? I'm talking about users who
care little about the OS, and who are really not at all interested in it.
Is your friend suffering terribly through using W11, btw?
Would you agree/disagree with the notion that automatic upgrades are, on balance, a 'good thing' for ordinary users? I'm talking about users who
care little about the OS, and who are really not at all interested in it.
Is your friend suffering terribly through using W11, btw?
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks
ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
On 23/02/2022 20:59, GB wrote:
.....
Would you agree/disagree with the notion that automatic upgrades are, on
balance, a 'good thing' for ordinary users? I'm talking about users who
care little about the OS, and who are really not at all interested in it.
Bad thing: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a handy maxim.
I have a
single W10 box purely to run garmin's satnav updates. When it last did
an automatic upgrade (after a year of non-use) it took hours and finally trashed a rather important boot file, and it took me iirc 3 days to find
what had happened and to fix it. I took extra time afterwards to disable
all future updates. And all I wanted was a quick, 5-minute satnav update!
I'm all for an OS letting the user know about possible updates. But let
the user decide if and when.
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks ago.
It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
On 24 Feb 2022 at 07:10:13 GMT, "Mike Scott" <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> wrote:
On 23/02/2022 20:59, GB wrote:
.....
Would you agree/disagree with the notion that automatic upgrades are, on >>> balance, a 'good thing' for ordinary users? I'm talking about users whoBad thing: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is a handy maxim.
care little about the OS, and who are really not at all interested in it. >>
Thing is, it is broken. Most updates are security fixes.
On 23/02/2022 17:21, Raj Kundra wrote:
On 23/02/2022 17:13, Andy wrote:Agreed, I can see folk who still wish to use the os, making a one off MS account then adding microsoft email address to it's block file.
On 23/02/2022 17:01, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 23/02/2022 in message <sv5osl$85e$3@dont-email.me> GB wrote:I think if your friend had changed his bios away from secure boot
On 23/02/2022 13:58, Jeff Gaines wrote:
A friend treated himself to a new Win 10 computer a couple of weeks >>>>>> ago. It has just upgraded itself overnight to Win 11.
Is MSFT up to its old Win 10 automatic upgrade tricks?
When my ipad automatically upgrades its OS is that also M$'s fault?
I doubt MSFT has much to do with iOS. Any reason why you would send
such a moronic reply? I asked a simple question, if you don't know
the answer then move on.
he/she would have been able to keep on W10. Also note that MS have
added the requirement of a MS account for W11 pro now.
That's where they will fall over and Apple will win.
Bad move, user should always have choice of having an account or not.
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