• Some web pages inaccessible on one PC, OK on another?

    From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 13 08:57:39 2022
    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?
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    Mike

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 13 09:50:01 2022
    In article <3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com>, mikehalmarack@gmail.com says...

    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    (Surprised to realise how rusty I'm getting on all this!)

    You could try bringing up a command prompt or Powershell, and type:
    ping tesco.com
    -- Do you get the same result on both machines?

    On the main PC try also:
    ipconfig /flushdns
    -- which does what it says on the tin. Any better?

    Is the connection solid on the main PC? (E.g. can you stream video without glitches?) Are you using the same browser on both machines?

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Thu Jan 13 09:50:13 2022
    "Mike Halmarack" <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com...
    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Lots of people had the same problem with Lidl but it seems to be sorted now
    so presumably it was their end.

    --
    Regards
    wasbit

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to thiswillbounceback@you.com on Thu Jan 13 10:51:28 2022
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:50:01 -0000, Philip Herlihy
    <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:

    In article <3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com>, >mikehalmarack@gmail.com says...

    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    (Surprised to realise how rusty I'm getting on all this!)

    You could try bringing up a command prompt or Powershell, and type:
    ping tesco.com
    -- Do you get the same result on both machines?

    On the main PC try also:
    ipconfig /flushdns
    -- which does what it says on the tin. Any better?

    Is the connection solid on the main PC? (E.g. can you stream video without >glitches?) Are you using the same browser on both machines?

    Thanks, Ill run through those processes this afternoon.
    Yes, video is streaming ok, Netflix and YouTube.
    I sometimes need to reboot my router to get anything Internet at all
    but that's much less frequent than the browsing difficulties.
    --

    Mike

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to wasbitremove@hotmail.com on Thu Jan 13 10:53:25 2022
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:50:13 -0000, "wasbit"
    <wasbitremove@hotmail.com> wrote:

    "Mike Halmarack" <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com...
    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Lots of people had the same problem with Lidl but it seems to be sorted now >so presumably it was their end.

    That's what I preferred to think the first few times.
    That it immediately works on one PC and not the other seems odd
    though.
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    Mike

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to thiswillbounceback@you.com on Thu Jan 13 10:56:03 2022
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 10:16:50 -0000, Philip Herlihy
    <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:

    In article <srosko$tcq$1@dont-email.me>, wasbitremove@hotmail.com says...

    "Mike Halmarack" <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com...
    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Lots of people had the same problem with Lidl but it seems to be sorted now >> so presumably it was their end.

    Odd that it's a problem on only one machine here.

    Browser cache? E.g: >https://www.howtogeek.com/661729/how-to-clear-cache-and-cookies-in-chrome/

    My Firefox and Chrome caches and cookies must feel somewhat
    victimised, considering the frequency with which I flush them out.
    --

    Mike

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk on Thu Jan 13 10:58:30 2022
    On 13 Jan 2022 10:54:03 +0000 (GMT), Theo
    <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    Mike Halmarack <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Different adblocking or cookies settings? eg Ocado won't load at all >(getting itself in an endless redirect loop) if all cookies are blocked.

    Theo

    Adblocking is a possibility though the same settings are configured
    when I can access the sites and also when I can't.
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    Mike

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Thu Jan 13 10:54:03 2022
    Mike Halmarack <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Different adblocking or cookies settings? eg Ocado won't load at all
    (getting itself in an endless redirect loop) if all cookies are blocked.

    Theo

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 13 10:16:50 2022
    In article <srosko$tcq$1@dont-email.me>, wasbitremove@hotmail.com says...

    "Mike Halmarack" <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com...
    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Lots of people had the same problem with Lidl but it seems to be sorted now so presumably it was their end.

    Odd that it's a problem on only one machine here.

    Browser cache? E.g: https://www.howtogeek.com/661729/how-to-clear-cache-and-cookies-in-chrome/

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to mikehalmarack@gmail.com on Thu Jan 13 12:46:38 2022
    On 13 Jan 2022 at 08:57:39 GMT, "Mike Halmarack"
    <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:

    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Set up a second user account on the troublesome PC, and see if that
    blank new setup is problematic.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    Is everyone acting like a solipsist in here, or is it just me?

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to jaimie@usually.sessile.org on Thu Jan 13 15:22:54 2022
    On 13 Jan 2022 12:46:38 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
    <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On 13 Jan 2022 at 08:57:39 GMT, "Mike Halmarack"
    <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:

    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    Set up a second user account on the troublesome PC, and see if that
    blank new setup is problematic.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Thanks. Done that. just need to wait for the next time the problem
    occurs now.
    --

    Mike

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to thiswillbounceback@you.com on Fri Jan 14 09:54:46 2022
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 09:50:01 -0000, Philip Herlihy
    <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:

    In article <3vpvtglun1q9ns4hnuubvodpoj9imku3uu@4ax.com>, >mikehalmarack@gmail.com says...

    On my small LAN the main PC often has a problem with loading web
    pages, particularly Tesco's. Move to the next room and access is no
    problem on the next PC.
    I know Tesco's site is often flakey these days but it seems too much
    of a coincidence, too frequently not to be a PC or a router problem.
    How can I work out which?

    (Surprised to realise how rusty I'm getting on all this!)

    You could try bringing up a command prompt or Powershell, and type:
    ping tesco.com
    -- Do you get the same result on both machines?

    Yes, though often it's easy to get onto the home page of sites but
    attempting to go further meets with errors.

    It's a bit similar with British Gas.
    Someone explained that requirements and restrictions for accessing the
    sites are getting more and more complex.
    What happened to simple websites?
    On the main PC try also:
    ipconfig /flushdns
    -- which does what it says on the tin. Any better?

    Is the connection solid on the main PC? (E.g. can you stream video without >glitches?) Are you using the same browser on both machines?
    --

    Mike

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Fri Jan 14 20:10:28 2022
    Mike Halmarack wrote:


    How can I work out which?

    same browser on working vs b0rked PCs?

    try different browser on the errant PC

    disable any advert/script blockers

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  • From Rob Morley@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Sat Jan 22 21:58:29 2022
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 15:22:54 +0000
    Mike Halmarack <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 13 Jan 2022 12:46:38 GMT, Jaimie Vandenbergh
    <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

    On 13 Jan 2022 at 08:57:39 GMT, "Mike Halmarack"
    <mikehalmarack@gmail.com> wrote:

    [...]

    Set up a second user account on the troublesome PC, and see if that
    blank new setup is problematic.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Thanks. Done that. just need to wait for the next time the problem
    occurs now.

    When a website has mysterious lost functionality I usually just "go
    incognito" to sidestep the browser plugins that are probably causing
    the problem.

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