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    From Raj Kundra@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 9 09:30:34 2021
    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10-device_2-yr

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to raj@kundracomputers.co.uk on Thu Dec 16 11:58:55 2021
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:30:34 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10-device_2-yr

    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.
    --

    Mike

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Thu Dec 16 14:34:44 2021
    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:

    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.


    I used to recommend the AVG free product, until they went downhill with
    a takeover, and Avast tried to monetize users by, er, spying?

    Today AVG is bloated with alarmist notifications, the scourge of nasties
    out there may be bad, but you will soon wonder if AVG is also one of them.

    Download a trial and see how you get on, or have a look at Sophos Home.

    To be honest, Microsoft's built-in AV should cover most users, if you
    are also up to date with all patches, and not habitually into surfing
    crazy stuff.

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to email@here.invalid on Thu Dec 16 14:44:08 2021
    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:34:44 +0000, Adrian Caspersz
    <email@here.invalid> wrote:

    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:

    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.


    I used to recommend the AVG free product, until they went downhill with
    a takeover, and Avast tried to monetize users by, er, spying?

    Today AVG is bloated with alarmist notifications, the scourge of nasties
    out there may be bad, but you will soon wonder if AVG is also one of them.

    Download a trial and see how you get on, or have a look at Sophos Home.

    To be honest, Microsoft's built-in AV should cover most users, if you
    are also up to date with all patches, and not habitually into surfing
    crazy stuff.

    Thanks. You just brought me back to earth.
    --

    Mike

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Thu Dec 16 15:05:44 2021
    Adrian Caspersz wrote:

    Microsoft's built-in AV should cover most users, if you are also up to date with
    all patches, and not habitually into surfing crazy stuff.

    This.

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Thu Dec 16 17:49:59 2021
    On 16/12/2021 14:34, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:

    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.


    I used to recommend the AVG free product, until they went downhill with
    a takeover, and Avast tried to monetize users by, er, spying?

    Today AVG is bloated with alarmist notifications, the scourge of nasties
    out there may be bad, but you will soon wonder if AVG is also one of them.

    Download a trial and see how you get on, or have a look at Sophos Home.

    To be honest, Microsoft's built-in AV should cover most users, if you
    are also up to date with all patches, and not habitually into surfing
    crazy stuff.


    Avast have also taken over Norton as well.

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  • From Raj Kundra@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Thu Dec 16 21:07:14 2021
    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:30:34 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10-device_2-yr >>
    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.

    In last 4 years I have bought twice 2 year subscriptions from them.
    Never a problem at all.

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Andy on Thu Dec 16 21:11:09 2021
    On 16/12/2021 17:49, Andy wrote:
    Avast have also taken over Norton as well.

    vice versa if you follow the money


    https://www.pcmag.com/news/antivirus-merger-nortonlifelock-to-acquire-avast

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    Robin
    reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

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  • From Raj Kundra@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Thu Dec 16 21:10:11 2021
    On 16/12/2021 14:34, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    To be honest, Microsoft's built-in AV should cover most users, if you
    are also up to date with all patches, and not habitually into surfing
    crazy stuff.

    Really?

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Robin on Thu Dec 16 15:45:31 2021
    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:11:09 +0000, Robin wrote:

    On 16/12/2021 17:49, Andy wrote:
    Avast have also taken over Norton as well.

    vice versa if you follow the money


    https://www.pcmag.com/news/antivirus-merger-nortonlifelock-to-acquire-
    avast

    My bad, I saw they'd "merged" but they seem to have the avast pop up
    marketing ethos on merger, see Brian info folk on it on you tube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYjCVj1qcI

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  • From Dan@21:1/5 to raj@kundracomputers.co.uk on Sat Dec 18 10:20:37 2021
    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:07:14 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:30:34 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10-device_2-yr >>>
    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.

    In last 4 years I have bought twice 2 year subscriptions from them.
    Never a problem at all.



    What about kaspersky free?
    Supplemented by malwarebytes*

    * Kaspersky does not like malwarebytes active shield, so use
    malwarebytes as a stand alone on demand scanner.

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Dan on Mon Dec 20 10:56:39 2021
    On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 10:20:37 +0000, Dan wrote:

    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:07:14 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:30:34 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10- device_2-yr

    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.

    In last 4 years I have bought twice 2 year subscriptions from them.
    Never a problem at all.



    What about kaspersky free?
    Supplemented by malwarebytes*

    * Kaspersky does not like malwarebytes active shield, so use
    malwarebytes as a stand alone on demand scanner.

    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be
    saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_kaSPvGEsI

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Dan on Mon Dec 20 16:25:11 2021
    On 18/12/2021 10:20, Dan wrote:
    On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:07:14 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    On 16/12/2021 11:58, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 09:30:34 +0000, Raj Kundra
    <raj@kundracomputers.co.uk> wrote:

    As subject.

    https://store.computeractive.co.uk/p33741-avg_ultimate_2022_10-device_2-yr >>>>
    Can someone knowledgeable, other than the OP recommend this purchase.
    I don't know whether it's Windows 10 updates or something equally
    insidious frequently throwing my PCs into disarray.

    In last 4 years I have bought twice 2 year subscriptions from them.
    Never a problem at all.



    What about kaspersky free?
    Supplemented by malwarebytes*

    * Kaspersky does not like malwarebytes active shield, so use
    malwarebytes as a stand alone on demand scanner.

    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be
    saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_kaSPvGEsI

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to Andy on Wed Dec 22 20:26:32 2021
    On 20/12/2021 16:56, Andy wrote:


    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be
    saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    Had the PC go into treacle mode this afternoon while crunching some big spreadsheets and copying images into Word. A quick check with Task
    Manager to try to figure what was going on showed Avast stealing 25% of
    CPU.

    I havn't used AVG / Avast for virus protection for ages, but I did have
    an installed but supposedly unused copy of the Avast secure browser. Not
    any more.

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Dan on Sun Dec 26 21:10:10 2021
    On 26/12/2021 20:30, Dan wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:26:32 +0000, newshound
    <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 20/12/2021 16:56, Andy wrote:


    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be
    saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    Had the PC go into treacle mode this afternoon while crunching some big
    spreadsheets and copying images into Word. A quick check with Task
    Manager to try to figure what was going on showed Avast stealing 25% of
    CPU.

    I havn't used AVG / Avast for virus protection for ages, but I did have
    an installed but supposedly unused copy of the Avast secure browser. Not
    any more.


    Do bitdefender still do a free version?

    Sadly no more:
    https://www.bitdefender.co.uk/solutions/free.html


    What is the status of Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition?

    We are focusing product development around multi-platform protection
    and as a result, we are retiring Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition
    for Windows starting on December.

    Bitdefender values its customers and user base, all our Bitdefender
    Antivirus Free users will receive privately (via email) a special
    discounted offer for Bitdefender Total Security.



    I have the Bitdefender free still on one device, not had any email as yet.

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  • From Dan@21:1/5 to sradcliffe544@gmail.com on Sun Dec 26 20:30:01 2021
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:26:32 +0000, newshound
    <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 20/12/2021 16:56, Andy wrote:


    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be
    saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    Had the PC go into treacle mode this afternoon while crunching some big >spreadsheets and copying images into Word. A quick check with Task
    Manager to try to figure what was going on showed Avast stealing 25% of
    CPU.

    I havn't used AVG / Avast for virus protection for ages, but I did have
    an installed but supposedly unused copy of the Avast secure browser. Not
    any more.


    Do bitdefender still do a free version?

    Sadly no more:
    https://www.bitdefender.co.uk/solutions/free.html


    What is the status of Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition?

    We are focusing product development around multi-platform protection
    and as a result, we are retiring Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition
    for Windows starting on December.

    Bitdefender values its customers and user base, all our Bitdefender
    Antivirus Free users will receive privately (via email) a special
    discounted offer for Bitdefender Total Security.

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  • From Dan@21:1/5 to Andy on Mon Dec 27 08:11:44 2021
    On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 21:10:10 +0000, Andy <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 26/12/2021 20:30, Dan wrote:
    On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:26:32 +0000, newshound
    <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 20/12/2021 16:56, Andy wrote:


    A very recent video on youtube [ Dec 21 ] is a good watch, seems to be >>>> saying what everyone is saying about avast marketing and has a great
    result for Kaspersky

    Had the PC go into treacle mode this afternoon while crunching some big
    spreadsheets and copying images into Word. A quick check with Task
    Manager to try to figure what was going on showed Avast stealing 25% of
    CPU.

    I havn't used AVG / Avast for virus protection for ages, but I did have
    an installed but supposedly unused copy of the Avast secure browser. Not >>> any more.


    Do bitdefender still do a free version?

    Sadly no more:
    https://www.bitdefender.co.uk/solutions/free.html


    What is the status of Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition?

    We are focusing product development around multi-platform protection
    and as a result, we are retiring Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition
    for Windows starting on December.

    Bitdefender values its customers and user base, all our Bitdefender
    Antivirus Free users will receive privately (via email) a special
    discounted offer for Bitdefender Total Security.



    I have the Bitdefender free still on one device, not had any email as yet.

    What are opinions about Sophos home free?

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Dan on Mon Dec 27 10:04:27 2021
    On 27/12/2021 08:11, Dan wrote:

    What is the status of Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition?

    We are focusing product development around multi-platform protection
    and as a result, we are retiring Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition
    for Windows starting on December.

    Bitdefender values its customers and user base, all our Bitdefender
    Antivirus Free users will receive privately (via email) a special
    discounted offer for Bitdefender Total Security.



    I have the Bitdefender free still on one device, not had any email as yet.

    What are opinions about Sophos home free?


    Sophos Home Free is unfortunately is no longer. They have the trial
    product instead.

    A sensible looking suite with useful (for me) remote configuration. No
    alarmist dialogs like AVG/Avast.

    Bit hard for me to quantify if it is any "better" than the current
    Microsoft Defender on W10 though. In fact, Defender is now looking
    positively feature laden in comparison and that works in comparison with
    their malicious software removal tool, and a regularly patched OS.

    Admittedly, I don't have the use case others do; most of our bare
    internet use is not on that platform. I'm not that promiscuous in any
    net behaviour, I don't game, and disabling windows updates is absolutely
    my last thought in anything to do with Windows.

    Others may differ, which may probably influence their decision to add
    more layers of security to their configuration.

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Dan@21:1/5 to email@here.invalid on Mon Dec 27 13:01:29 2021
    On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 10:04:27 +0000, Adrian Caspersz
    <email@here.invalid> wrote:

    On 27/12/2021 08:11, Dan wrote:

    What is the status of Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition?

    We are focusing product development around multi-platform protection
    and as a result, we are retiring Bitdefender Antivirus Free Edition
    for Windows starting on December.

    Bitdefender values its customers and user base, all our Bitdefender
    Antivirus Free users will receive privately (via email) a special
    discounted offer for Bitdefender Total Security.



    I have the Bitdefender free still on one device, not had any email as yet. >>
    What are opinions about Sophos home free?


    Sophos Home Free is unfortunately is no longer. They have the trial
    product instead.

    A sensible looking suite with useful (for me) remote configuration. No >alarmist dialogs like AVG/Avast.

    Bit hard for me to quantify if it is any "better" than the current
    Microsoft Defender on W10 though. In fact, Defender is now looking
    positively feature laden in comparison and that works in comparison with >their malicious software removal tool, and a regularly patched OS.

    Admittedly, I don't have the use case others do; most of our bare
    internet use is not on that platform. I'm not that promiscuous in any
    net behaviour, I don't game, and disabling windows updates is absolutely
    my last thought in anything to do with Windows.

    Others may differ, which may probably influence their decision to add
    more layers of security to their configuration.


    Sadly, it seems as if the choice of free AV is dwindling.

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