• Laptop woes

    From Andy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 6 12:18:33 2021
    Asking for a friend.

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 6 21:56:35 2021
    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
    the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
    emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to i.love.spam@spam.com on Tue Dec 7 12:07:17 2021
    On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
    the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
    emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

    Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various >> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.



    That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
    an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

    That was my immediate thought too.

    Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    "Some people think that noise abatement should be a higher
    priority for ATC. I say safety is noise abatement. You have no
    idea how much noise it makes to have a 737 fall out of the sky
    after an accident."
    -- anonymous air traffic controller

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 7 11:20:47 2021
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
    the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

    Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Tue Dec 7 11:35:41 2021
    On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on
    the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the
    emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

    Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.



    That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
    an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Tue Dec 7 13:36:39 2021
    On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
    On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on >>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the >>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

    Everyy 20 *minutes*? That probably rules out a "beep code", where various >>> patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.



    That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
    an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

    That was my immediate thought too.

    Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
    said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop was
    powered down and the mains switched off!

    Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
    itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Andy on Tue Dec 7 15:04:55 2021
    On 07/12/2021 13:36, Andy wrote:
    On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
    On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker (buzzer) on >>>>> the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or the >>>>> emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature.

    Everyy 20 *minutes*?  That probably rules out a "beep code", where
    various
    patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.



    That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is
    an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

    That was my immediate thought too.

    Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.

         Cheers - Jaimie

    Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
    said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop was powered down and the mains switched off!

    Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
    itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.


    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 7 16:51:42 2021
    On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:

    Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
    said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop
    was powered down and the mains switched off!

    Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
    itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.


    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.


    <smirk>

    In the long past I have been to a houses of elderly folks that have
    smoke alarms bleeping away for low batteries.

    I've offered to help change it, but no - they've been told to call the
    fire brigade to get it changed. There's one lady that won't do that, as
    in the last visit from them, she got a rude unwelcome lecture about her
    paper rubbish hoarding habit. I can't get her out of this catch-22 (must
    have another go!)

    Problem is the battery beep is rather loud. And for also someone going
    deaf with age, that repeated noise must exacerbate the decline. (It
    would send me loopy).

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Andy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 7 18:03:24 2021
    On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
    On 07/12/2021 13:36, Andy wrote:
    On 07/12/2021 12:07, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
    On 7 Dec 2021 at 11:35:41 GMT, "SH" <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 07/12/2021 11:20, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    In article <20211206215635.657dd605@ryz>, mo01@posteo.de says...

    Am Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000
    schrieb Andy <user@example.net>:

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?
    Does it come from the normal speaker or the system speaker
    (buzzer) on
    the MoBo (maybe emulated)?
    Is it a sound created by the system or is is the emulated
    Windows newer than XP doesn't support using the system speaker (or >>>>>> the
    emulated variant) anymore, but Linux can still use it.
    Maybe it is also created by the BIOS. I know that some desktop
    motherboards beep when the CPU is hot, maybe check its temperature. >>>>>
    Everyy 20 *minutes*?  That probably rules out a "beep code", where
    various
    patterns of long and short beeps signal some error condition.



    That sounds like a signal from the power management indicating there is >>>> an issue with battery... as in there is no battery detected?

    That was my immediate thought too.

    Without a model number there's no real way to confirm that.

         Cheers - Jaimie

    Latest update, he phoned 5 mins ago, it's now not happening today. He
    said yesterday when it was happening it even beeped when the laptop
    was powered down and the mains switched off!

    Anyway thank you all for your responses, as It appears to have fixed
    itself for now, I shall post no more on the subject.


    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.


    I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Andy on Wed Dec 8 12:16:51 2021
    On 07/12/2021 18:03, Andy wrote:

    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.


    I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

    The batteries have lower capacity when it's cold, so the beeping can
    come and go according to the weather/heating.

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  • From Tony Mountifield@21:1/5 to user@example.net on Thu Dec 9 09:19:43 2021
    In article <FuOdnc26lcNxPDL8nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
    Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
    On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.


    I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

    If it happens again, ask him to take the laptop into another room, and
    to see if the noise moves with it, or stays in the original room!
    --
    Tony Mountifield
    Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
    Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to Tony Mountifield on Thu Dec 9 09:27:56 2021
    On 09/12/2021 09:19, Tony Mountifield wrote:
    In article <FuOdnc26lcNxPDL8nZ2dnUU78S2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,
    Andy <user@example.net> wrote:
    On 07/12/2021 15:04, GB wrote:
    Do post, though, when he changes the battery in his smoke alarm.


    I did suggest that on the phone, but he insisted it was the laptop.

    If it happens again, ask him to take the laptop into another room, and
    to see if the noise moves with it, or stays in the original room!


    The problem is that single beeps are hard to direction locate. I've had
    a smoke alarm confuse me for hours, if not days.

    I find timing them, and, if regular, being prepared for the next one the
    best location strategy.

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to Andy on Fri Dec 10 07:41:03 2021
    On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:18:33 +0000, Andy <user@example.net> wrote:

    Asking for a friend.

    11 year old samsung laptop running on mains [ battery removed ]
    beeps every 20 minutes. Anyone know what that beep indicates?

    My own experience of strange regular beeps has been related to
    bluetooth effects.
    --

    Mike

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