• PSU - Corsair 750W ATX 3.1 vs 850W ATX 3.0

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 21 19:31:16 2024
    Still struggling with PSUs.

    Amazon has this: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/ B0BYKT9SNJ/?th=1>
    which is actually the 850e at £88.99.

    There is also: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/ B0BYKHQWXF/?th=1>
    at £84.99 (allegedly down from £129.90).

    I would normally go for the more powerful option, but the 750e is on a big discount compared to other suppliers whilst the 850e is only a few pounds cheaper.

    I deduce that the difference must be ATX 3.0 vs ATX 3.1.

    The use is for my venerable desktops (as I thing two of them have dodgy
    PSUs).
    However I suppose I should have one eye on the future in case I have to
    replace the MoBo.

    Is ATX 3.1 relevant to anything apart from the latest high powered
    machines?

    As usual, I am swamped by too many options!

    Help!


    Dave R


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to David on Fri Nov 22 11:33:32 2024
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    Still struggling with PSUs.

    Amazon has this: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/ B0BYKT9SNJ/?th=1>
    which is actually the 850e at £88.99.

    There is also: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/ B0BYKHQWXF/?th=1>
    at £84.99 (allegedly down from £129.90).

    I would normally go for the more powerful option, but the 750e is on a big discount compared to other suppliers whilst the 850e is only a few pounds cheaper.

    I deduce that the difference must be ATX 3.0 vs ATX 3.1.

    The use is for my venerable desktops (as I thing two of them have dodgy PSUs).
    However I suppose I should have one eye on the future in case I have to replace the MoBo.

    Is ATX 3.1 relevant to anything apart from the latest high powered
    machines?

    As usual, I am swamped by too many options!

    https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/atx-30-vs-atx-31-whats-the-difference/

    It seems to be the only main difference is to do with high power GPUs, which were/are a mess due to the new 12VHPWR connector catching fire in certain circumstances.

    Efficiency reports for the RM750e: https://www.clearesult.com/80plus/sites/80plus/files/manufacturer-certificate/CORSAIR_RPS0147%20%28CP-9020248%29%20%28RM750e%29_750W_SOCE%206548_Report.pdf

    and RM850e: https://www.clearesult.com/80plus/sites/80plus/files/manufacturer-certificate/CORSAIR_RPS0157%28CP-9020249%29%28RM850E%29%20_850W_SOCE%206787_Report.pdf

    shows there's not a lot in it efficiency wise (bear in mind though that
    these are measured at % of full load, so for a fixed load you'll take a
    higher percentage of max load on the smaller PSU. Really what you want is
    to draw a horizontal line on the red line plot at a fixed power and measure
    the thickness of the red line there - but here it looks pretty similar)

    Unless you think you're going to be fitting a jumbo GPU in future, either should be fine for a domestic PC, whose power will often barely touch 100W
    most of the time.

    Theo

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Theo on Fri Nov 22 13:33:02 2024
    On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 11:33:32 +0000, Theo wrote:

    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    Still struggling with PSUs.

    Amazon has this:
    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/
    B0BYKT9SNJ/?th=1>
    which is actually the 850e at £88.99.

    There is also:
    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-RM750e-Modular-Low-Noise-Supply/dp/
    B0BYKHQWXF/?th=1>
    at £84.99 (allegedly down from £129.90).

    I would normally go for the more powerful option, but the 750e is on a
    big discount compared to other suppliers whilst the 850e is only a few
    pounds cheaper.

    I deduce that the difference must be ATX 3.0 vs ATX 3.1.

    The use is for my venerable desktops (as I thing two of them have dodgy
    PSUs).
    However I suppose I should have one eye on the future in case I have to
    replace the MoBo.

    Is ATX 3.1 relevant to anything apart from the latest high powered
    machines?

    As usual, I am swamped by too many options!

    https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/explorer/diy-builder/power-supply-units/
    atx-30-vs-atx-31-whats-the-difference/

    It seems to be the only main difference is to do with high power GPUs,
    which were/are a mess due to the new 12VHPWR connector catching fire in certain circumstances.

    Efficiency reports for the RM750e: https://www.clearesult.com/80plus/sites/80plus/files/manufacturer-
    certificate/CORSAIR_RPS0147%20%28CP-9020248%29%20%28RM750e%29_750W_SOCE% 206548_Report.pdf

    and RM850e: https://www.clearesult.com/80plus/sites/80plus/files/manufacturer-
    certificate/CORSAIR_RPS0157%28CP-9020249%29%28RM850E%29%20_850W_SOCE% 206787_Report.pdf

    shows there's not a lot in it efficiency wise (bear in mind though that
    these are measured at % of full load, so for a fixed load you'll take a higher percentage of max load on the smaller PSU. Really what you want
    is to draw a horizontal line on the red line plot at a fixed power and measure the thickness of the red line there - but here it looks pretty similar)

    Unless you think you're going to be fitting a jumbo GPU in future,
    either should be fine for a domestic PC, whose power will often barely
    touch 100W most of the time.

    Theo

    Thanks.

    The reports I have read thus far seem to say that both use the same set of components, although they differ on how good/bad this is.
    Mainly reviewers seem to like Japanese components more.

    Based on all this I can't really see a justification for the much higher
    list price (or at least the general non-discounted price) of the 750W
    unless it is purely on the GPU power lead and slightly more recent certification.

    I think I will go for the 850W for the extra bit of headroom.
    As usual, I probably won't know if I have made the correct decision for
    months, if not years.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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