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    From RJH@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 30 12:24:01 2024
    I've recently come by a 1050Ti 4GB graphics card to replace the onboard/CPU graphics (Asus H110/i3 6100 3.7) on my PC.

    I've got a few games, mainly FPS and strategy, that I've amassed on Steam over the years, but never got round to playing, and I'm interested to know how much difference an improved CPU might make. The best I can go is a Skylake i7,
    which will double the benchmark score of the i3, although the single thread benchmark is quite similar.

    The reviews seem quite fuzzy on the role of the CPU on graphics performance. Anyone any view on whether the i7 upgrade will significantly help graphics performance?

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to RJH on Mon Sep 30 21:24:51 2024
    On 30 Sep 2024 at 13:24:01 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

    I've recently come by a 1050Ti 4GB graphics card to replace the onboard/CPU graphics (Asus H110/i3 6100 3.7) on my PC.

    I've got a few games, mainly FPS and strategy, that I've amassed on Steam over
    the years, but never got round to playing, and I'm interested to know how much
    difference an improved CPU might make. The best I can go is a Skylake i7, which will double the benchmark score of the i3, although the single thread benchmark is quite similar.

    The reviews seem quite fuzzy on the role of the CPU on graphics performance. Anyone any view on whether the i7 upgrade will significantly help graphics performance?

    Fuzziness is due to different games bottlenecking on different things.
    You won't get as stark a change as jumping from your built HD530 to the
    1050Ti, but you should get a significant boost from going from that
    (rather gutless) i3-6100 dualcore to an i7 quadcore even of a similar
    era. I suspect at the moment your FPS games are bottlenecking on the
    CPU.

    Strategy games could be improved or no difference, depending on their
    coding and whether you're waiting around for CPU to generate tactics at
    the moment.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Tue Oct 1 11:08:20 2024
    On 30 Sep 2024 at 22:24:51 BST, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    On 30 Sep 2024 at 13:24:01 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

    I've recently come by a 1050Ti 4GB graphics card to replace the onboard/CPU >> graphics (Asus H110/i3 6100 3.7) on my PC.

    I've got a few games, mainly FPS and strategy, that I've amassed on Steam over
    the years, but never got round to playing, and I'm interested to know how much
    difference an improved CPU might make. The best I can go is a Skylake i7,
    which will double the benchmark score of the i3, although the single thread >> benchmark is quite similar.

    The reviews seem quite fuzzy on the role of the CPU on graphics performance. >> Anyone any view on whether the i7 upgrade will significantly help graphics >> performance?

    Fuzziness is due to different games bottlenecking on different things.
    You won't get as stark a change as jumping from your built HD530 to the 1050Ti, but you should get a significant boost from going from that
    (rather gutless) i3-6100 dualcore to an i7 quadcore even of a similar
    era. I suspect at the moment your FPS games are bottlenecking on the
    CPU.

    Strategy games could be improved or no difference, depending on their
    coding and whether you're waiting around for CPU to generate tactics at
    the moment.


    Thanks for that. It's a marginal situation - replace the PC with something
    more modern (and out-the-box Win11 ready*), or patch and mend.

    I'll see how it goes with the card alone. i7s are going for £40 on ebay, so may well give it a whirl.


    * It's a curious thing. The motherboard is Windows 11 compatible, but it doesn't support any Win11 compatible processors.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to RJH on Tue Oct 1 13:51:41 2024
    On 1 Oct 2024 at 12:08:20 BST, "RJH" <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

    I'll see how it goes with the card alone. i7s are going for £40 on ebay, so may well give it a whirl.

    Worth the experimental price for sure.

    * It's a curious thing. The motherboard is Windows 11 compatible, but it doesn't support any Win11 compatible processors.

    That's pretty common - most CPUs from 2014+ have the TPS2 embedded in
    them, so the mobo doesn't need to support anything particular except
    have a bios option to use the embedded one.

    I'm in the same boat, my 2016 z170 mobo doesn't support a late enough
    CPU to be officially Win11 compatible. Of course the preconditions are
    bypassed with just a couple of registry tweaks anyway so it's a
    pointless limitation, hey ho.

    I've set my games PC up to be ready to (ugh) move to Win11 when Win10
    goes out of support.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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