• USB connection for local storage on home router - still used?

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 8 18:42:08 2024
    For a long time, routers have come with at least one USB port which can be
    used to mount a HDD or USB stick.

    This provides a local file server (of limited performance, usually).

    Does anyone make use of this?

    I tested this years ago and (I assume because of the limited processing
    power of the router) it was far slower than a local HDD/SSD/USB stick on a local PC.

    I am tempted to test my new whizzo router, but in general unless you have
    a network of laptops which are here (then not) over the weeks and no other storage option I am not seeing a great need.

    Cheers




    Dave R

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Abandoned Trolley on Sun Jun 9 17:08:22 2024
    On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 17:27:39 +0100, Abandoned Trolley wrote:

    On 08/06/2024 19:42, David wrote:
    For a long time, routers have come with at least one USB port which can
    be used to mount a HDD or USB stick.

    This provides a local file server (of limited performance, usually).

    Does anyone make use of this?

    I tested this years ago and (I assume because of the limited processing
    power of the router) it was far slower than a local HDD/SSD/USB stick
    on a local PC.

    I am tempted to test my new whizzo router, but in general unless you
    have a network of laptops which are here (then not) over the weeks and
    no other storage option I am not seeing a great need.

    Cheers




    Dave R


    I was under the impression that in some cases the USB port could be used
    for a printer so that you could have a printer on "standby" (assuming
    the router is never turned off) - but with the proliferation of wireless printers and the reduced need for printing in general maybe that side of
    it has been forgotten.

    That is another use.
    Again, does anyone use it now?
    I assume the standard board for a router has a USB port now, due to
    tradition.

    Cheers



    Dave R

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 9 17:27:39 2024
    On 08/06/2024 19:42, David wrote:
    For a long time, routers have come with at least one USB port which can be used to mount a HDD or USB stick.

    This provides a local file server (of limited performance, usually).

    Does anyone make use of this?

    I tested this years ago and (I assume because of the limited processing
    power of the router) it was far slower than a local HDD/SSD/USB stick on a local PC.

    I am tempted to test my new whizzo router, but in general unless you have
    a network of laptops which are here (then not) over the weeks and no other storage option I am not seeing a great need.

    Cheers




    Dave R


    I was under the impression that in some cases the USB port could be used
    for a printer so that you could have a printer on "standby" (assuming
    the router is never turned off) - but with the proliferation of wireless printers and the reduced need for printing in general maybe that side of
    it has been forgotten.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 9 22:59:44 2024
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    That is another use.
    Again, does anyone use it now?
    I assume the standard board for a router has a USB port now, due to tradition.

    I use it for adding a USB stick for extra storage to routers that are
    running open source distros - often they come with only a minimal amount of flash like 128MB, so adding a few GB on a USB stick makes lots of space for extra packages, logs, etc.

    You can also plug in a 4G dongle and allow the router to make an LTE connection, eg if the broadband is down.

    And it's a useful source of power when hanging some widgets off the back.
    (set up a Pi Zero like this just last week)

    It costs a few cents to add the connector, so I'm grateful they bother.

    (I did solder my own connector onto a board of one router with no space for USB, that was tedious)

    Theo

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to Theo on Mon Jun 10 00:04:11 2024
    On 09/06/2024 22:59, Theo wrote:
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    That is another use.
    Again, does anyone use it now?
    I assume the standard board for a router has a USB port now, due to
    tradition.

    I use it for adding a USB stick for extra storage to routers that are
    running open source distros -

    And to install the distros in the first place. Unless they now come with
    a network boot/install bios?

    For me, the Raspberry Pi killed off any reason to use a router for
    anything apart from routing stuff.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Pancho on Mon Jun 10 15:50:22 2024
    Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
    On 09/06/2024 22:59, Theo wrote:
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    That is another use.
    Again, does anyone use it now?
    I assume the standard board for a router has a USB port now, due to
    tradition.

    I use it for adding a USB stick for extra storage to routers that are running open source distros -

    And to install the distros in the first place. Unless they now come with
    a network boot/install bios?

    You typically go to their firmware update webpage and 'upgrade' to a
    firmware file you download from the open source project. Some of them have annoying lockouts and you have to poke them via a serial cable, which you
    might have to solder to some hidden pads inside somewhere. I've never
    seen one where you install from USB, although they could exist.

    For me, the Raspberry Pi killed off any reason to use a router for
    anything apart from routing stuff.

    They are good for networking stuff (lots of ports), which Pis aren't. Everything else is generally worse.

    I used to have a fleet of routers running Debian because that was the
    cheapest way to get a small embedded box, but they were a PITA. Had to
    solder serial console cables, never enough flash or RAM, weedy 32-bit MIPS
    CPU needing a custom kernel, most of the router distros weren't 'proper' so
    you couldn't install packages, etc. I was very happy when all that could
    move to RPi.

    Theo

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to David on Mon Jul 22 09:53:15 2024
    On 08/06/2024 19:42, David wrote:
    For a long time, routers have come with at least one USB port which can be used to mount a HDD or USB stick.

    This provides a local file server (of limited performance, usually).

    Does anyone make use of this?

    Snip <

    Yep, that's exactly what I used it for, as anything connected to the
    router could see it. Saved setting up all the vagaries of networking
    between a changeable list of PCs over the LAN.



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    wasbit

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