Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual memory?
Any of you come across a smartphone without a camera?
I want phone/text/email/app store but I have 2 excellent cameras and don't want another. I expect it's a bit like laptops where I'd like one with no touch pad but seems I am the only person in the world who wants that!
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual memory?
You are not alone regarding touch pads, I hate them. You want a nice
quality retro thinkpad with trackpoint, I love my x61.
I hate those touchpad things as well, but the only thing I have
personally experienced which I found even worse ....
was a wobbly red button thing in the middle of the keyboard on an IBM Thinkpad which an employer "blessed" me with some 25 years ago. After a
while I got a REALLY sore finger, and I believe that at the time there
may have been no USM mouse option :-\
You are not alone regarding touch pads, I hate them. You want a nice
quality retro thinkpad with trackpoint, I love my x61.
I hate those touchpad things as well, but the only thing I have
personally experienced which I found even worse ....
was a wobbly red button thing in the middle of the keyboard on an IBM Thinkpad which an employer "blessed" me with some 25 years ago. After a
while I got a REALLY sore finger, and I believe that at the time there
may have been no USM mouse option :-\
Any of you come across a smartphone without a camera?
I want phone/text/email/app store but I have 2 excellent cameras and
don't want another. I expect it's a bit like laptops where I'd like one
with no touch pad but seems I am the only person in the world who wants
that!
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual memory?
I think this is a bit like saying "I never listen to the radio. Why
can't I buy a new car without one?". So much is integrated these days
that it is probably most cost efficient in manufacturing to just put everything on the [...]
David wrote:
I think this is a bit like saying "I never listen to the radio. Why
can't I buy a new car without one?". So much is integrated these days
that it is probably most cost efficient in manufacturing to just put
everything on the [...]
But if it's a BMW you'll probably have to pay a monthly fee to use the
radio ...
Any of you come across a smartphone without a camera?
I want phone/text/email/app store but I have 2 excellent cameras and don't want another.
I expect it's a bit like laptops where I'd like one with no touch pad
but seems I am the only person in the world who wants that!
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM orNo ... what models do that? Do tell!
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual
memory?
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual
memory?
No ... what models do that? Do tell!
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual
memory?
No ... what models do that? Do tell!
On 19/11/2023 15:00, Andy Burns wrote:
David wrote:
I think this is a bit like saying "I never listen to the radio. Why
can't I buy a new car without one?". So much is integrated these days
that it is probably most cost efficient in manufacturing to just put
everything on the [...]
But if it's a BMW you'll probably have to pay a monthly fee to use the
radio ...
LOL.... So True!
(remembers the press reporting arounf a heated steering wheel only being enabled and available once you pay a month subscription!)
Jeff Gaines wrote:
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual
memory?
No ... what models do that? Do tell!
[snip two Amazon links]
I don't know why those product descriptions lead you to understand that
those two phones use virtual memory?
On 19/11/2023 in message <ujdob7$3u94v$1@dont-email.me> Daniel James wrote:
Have you noticed how many smartphones now advertise with 12 GB RAM or
more only to discover in the small print half of it is virtual
memory?
No ... what models do that? Do tell!
https://www.amazon.co.uk/OUKITEL-C33-Expandable-Smartphone-Fingerprint-grey/dp/B0CF9P73VN/ref=sr_1_21?crid=2EEEC6OLIOPCO&keywords=smartphone&qid=1700233575&sprefix=smartphone%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-21&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.23648568-4ba5-49f2-9aa6-31ae75f1e9cd&th=1
and
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blackview-Tab60-Tablet-Bluetooth-Headphone/dp/B0CHML4ZDJ/?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=dlx_deals_sc_dcl_img_dt_dealz_ic&pd_rd_w=l8G17&content-id=amzn1.sym.a2d9d1cf-9afa-45a5-89d6-0379ea7f5e04&pf_rd_p=a2d9d1cf-9afa-45a5-89d6-0379ea7f5e04&pf_rd_r=F7HNA65141KFHY7PCYXV&pd_rd_wg=G3eo9&pd_rd_r=fa69dd73-fcce-424e-a133-a551d07b1b81&th=1
I've just bought the latter and been setting it up, it's very good so far
and a tenth the price of an iPhone!
SH wrote:
(remembers the press reporting arounf a heated steering wheel only being
enabled and available once you pay a month subscription!)
More like a Tesla where any upgrades paid for by an owner are removed when sold second hand only for the next owner to pay full whack for them again.
I've just bought the latter and been setting it up, it's very good so far >>and a tenth the price of an iPhone!
No idea why you're comparing a tablet to an iphone? It's certainly cheaper >than a base ipad and I'd expect so given the specs are so bad. Particularly >the screen.
Daniel James wrote:[snip]
I don't know why those product descriptions lead you to understand
that those two phones use virtual memory?
The first one says ...
"15GB RAM (8GB RAM + 7GB Extra Virtual Memory)"
The second one says
"New memory expansion technology can expand the 6GB memory to 12GB RAM"
Chris wrote:
SH wrote:
(remembers the press reporting arounf a heated steering wheel only being >>> enabled and available once you pay a month subscription!)
More like a Tesla where any upgrades paid for by an owner are removed when >> sold second hand only for the next owner to pay full whack for them again.
Ouch, hadn't heard about that practice.
On 20/11/2023 in message <ujf5k0$8av6$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
I've just bought the latter and been setting it up, it's very good so far >>> and a tenth the price of an iPhone!
No idea why you're comparing a tablet to an iphone? It's certainly cheaper >> than a base ipad and I'd expect so given the specs are so bad. Particularly >> the screen.
It's a "phablet", i.e. a mobile 'phone with an 8" screen.
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 20/11/2023 in message <ujf5k0$8av6$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
I've just bought the latter and been setting it up, it's very good so >>>>far
and a tenth the price of an iPhone!
No idea why you're comparing a tablet to an iphone? It's certainly >>>cheaper
than a base ipad and I'd expect so given the specs are so bad. >>>Particularly
the screen.
It's a "phablet", i.e. a mobile 'phone with an 8" screen.
Are you sure it can make actual phone calls? Most tablets with SIM cards
can only make internet calls via a separate service e.g. WhatsApp. So you >can't use it to ring the GP, for example.
On 21/11/2023 in message <ujhp0e$oj1i$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
On 20/11/2023 in message <ujf5k0$8av6$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
I've just bought the latter and been setting it up, it's very good so >>>>> far
and a tenth the price of an iPhone!
No idea why you're comparing a tablet to an iphone? It's certainly
cheaper
than a base ipad and I'd expect so given the specs are so bad.
Particularly
the screen.
It's a "phablet", i.e. a mobile 'phone with an 8" screen.
Are you sure it can make actual phone calls? Most tablets with SIM cards
can only make internet calls via a separate service e.g. WhatsApp. So you
can't use it to ring the GP, for example.
Yes I am!
I always buy these cheap Chinese 'phones, they are very popular in Asia
but eventually make their way here. Low quality cameras so lower cost (not
a problem for me as I said up thread) but a good sized screen so I can
read texts/emails etc. I don't live on my 'phone, I use my laptop for most things, with Pushbullet I can even use it for texts and copying and
pasting 2FA codes into a browser.
I always buy these cheap Chinese 'phones, they are very popular in Asia
but eventually make their way here. Low quality cameras so lower cost (not >>a problem for me as I said up thread) but a good sized screen so I can
read texts/emails etc. I don't live on my 'phone, I use my laptop for most >>things, with Pushbullet I can even use it for texts and copying and
pasting 2FA codes into a browser.
OK, fair enough.
It's not at all what anyone would have thought to suggest given your
request in the OP, but glad you've found something suitable.
On 21/11/2023 in message <ujiitb$sn8q$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:
I always buy these cheap Chinese 'phones, they are very popular in Asia
but eventually make their way here. Low quality cameras so lower cost (not >>> a problem for me as I said up thread) but a good sized screen so I can
read texts/emails etc. I don't live on my 'phone, I use my laptop for most >>> things, with Pushbullet I can even use it for texts and copying and
pasting 2FA codes into a browser.
OK, fair enough.
It's not at all what anyone would have thought to suggest given your
request in the OP, but glad you've found something suitable.
I'd be interested to know why you feel it doesn't meet my original spec?
It does have a camera but a cheap, low resolution one, otherwise it's what
I was looking for.
Most tablets with SIM cards
can only make internet calls via a separate service e.g. WhatsApp. So you can't use it to ring the GP, for example.
As you say it's a phablet. If someone is looking for a "mobile phone" a phablet is not something that would come to my mind as a suggestion.
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