• Marian MARC 2 PRO

    From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 17:30:23 2023
    I have recently removed one of these from a system and as it's a bit of "professional" kit I thought maybe its of some use to somebody ..

    If theres anybody out there (in the UK) who wants one of these (or even
    knows what it is) then get in touch and you can have it for the cost of
    the postage.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Abandoned Trolley on Mon Nov 13 23:49:19 2023
    Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:

    I have recently removed one of these from a system and as it's a bit of "professional" kit I thought maybe its of some use to somebody ..

    If theres anybody out there (in the UK) who wants one of these (or even
    knows what it is) then get in touch and you can have it for the cost of
    the postage.

    It's fancy soundcard. Drivers and docs here, for Windows up to XP: http://www.marian.de/files/marc2p/

    says:

    Your MARC 2 PRO provides some special characteristics. In the
    following you will get a short overview of them:
    - Support of 24 bit and 96 kHz
    - Balanced analog inputs and outputs
    - An integrated SyncBus
    - Windows multi-client drivers for ASIO, GSIF, MME and DirectSound
    - Multiple card support (upto 4 cards can be used at the same time)
    - DAT Marker support
    - Latency-free and flexible monitoring
    - Using ASIO latency periods of 2 ms are possible
    - Wordclock synchronisation
    - AES/EBU digital ports
    - Electrical S/PDIF digital ports


    https://www.musikhaus-korn.de/en/marian-marc-2-pro/pd/98401
    says:

    The four channel Marc 2 Pro is the perfect solution for professional audio transfer of a digital audio workstation and offers uncompromised high-end-features. The balanced analog and digital connectors, including an internal connector for a CD-ROM drive with digital audio output, excel due
    to a wide range of driver support and very low latency values. This
    features are completed by a wordclock input and DAT-marker support. All features qualifies the Marc 2 PRO especially for the usage in pro audio and mastering studios, post pro and broadcast.

    The effective hardware design and a continuously evolving high speed driver suite provide a disturbance-free operation and minimal latency values in all software surroundings.

    Flexible routing, start-stop synchronisation of all in- and outputs, sample exact transfer on all channels and direct delay-free controlling of the
    inputs (zero-latency monitoring) make the Marc 2 PRO the ideal partner for demanding harddisk-recording, as well.

    Driver suite
    Features:

    short PCI card: 32-bit 33MHz, 5V
    Sample formats: 8, 16, 20, 24, 32 Bit Mono/Stereo
    Sample rates analog: 8-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
    Sample rates digital: 32-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
    Frequency response @ 44,1 kHz: 20 Hz to 20 kHz
    Frequency response @ 96 kHz: 20 Hz to 40 kHz
    Input/output level: +18 dBu
    SNR AD @ 44.1 kHz: 104 dB(A)
    SNR DA @ 44.1 kHz: 114 dB(A)
    THD+N AD @ -0,5 dbFS: 0,002%
    THD+N DA @ 0 dbFS: 0,002%
    Special versions with input Level Gain +24 dBu available



    Theo

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Theo on Tue Nov 14 08:22:31 2023
    On 13/11/2023 23:49, Theo wrote:
    Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:

    I have recently removed one of these from a system and as it's a bit of
    "professional" kit I thought maybe its of some use to somebody ..

    If theres anybody out there (in the UK) who wants one of these (or even
    knows what it is) then get in touch and you can have it for the cost of
    the postage.

    It's fancy soundcard. Drivers and docs here, for Windows up to XP: http://www.marian.de/files/marc2p/

    says:

    Your MARC 2 PRO provides some special characteristics. In the
    following you will get a short overview of them:
    - Support of 24 bit and 96 kHz
    - Balanced analog inputs and outputs
    - An integrated SyncBus
    - Windows multi-client drivers for ASIO, GSIF, MME and DirectSound
    - Multiple card support (upto 4 cards can be used at the same time)
    - DAT Marker support
    - Latency-free and flexible monitoring
    - Using ASIO latency periods of 2 ms are possible
    - Wordclock synchronisation
    - AES/EBU digital ports
    - Electrical S/PDIF digital ports


    https://www.musikhaus-korn.de/en/marian-marc-2-pro/pd/98401
    says:

    The four channel Marc 2 Pro is the perfect solution for professional audio transfer of a digital audio workstation and offers uncompromised high-end-features. The balanced analog and digital connectors, including an internal connector for a CD-ROM drive with digital audio output, excel due
    to a wide range of driver support and very low latency values. This
    features are completed by a wordclock input and DAT-marker support. All features qualifies the Marc 2 PRO especially for the usage in pro audio and mastering studios, post pro and broadcast.

    The effective hardware design and a continuously evolving high speed driver suite provide a disturbance-free operation and minimal latency values in all software surroundings.

    Flexible routing, start-stop synchronisation of all in- and outputs, sample exact transfer on all channels and direct delay-free controlling of the inputs (zero-latency monitoring) make the Marc 2 PRO the ideal partner for demanding harddisk-recording, as well.

    Driver suite
    Features:

    short PCI card: 32-bit 33MHz, 5V
    Sample formats: 8, 16, 20, 24, 32 Bit Mono/Stereo
    Sample rates analog: 8-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
    Sample rates digital: 32-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
    Frequency response @ 44,1 kHz: 20 Hz to 20 kHz
    Frequency response @ 96 kHz: 20 Hz to 40 kHz
    Input/output level: +18 dBu
    SNR AD @ 44.1 kHz: 104 dB(A)
    SNR DA @ 44.1 kHz: 114 dB(A)
    THD+N AD @ -0,5 dbFS: 0,002%
    THD+N DA @ 0 dbFS: 0,002%
    Special versions with input Level Gain +24 dBu available



    Theo


    96 kHz support is rather overkill as most people's ears cannot hear
    beyond 20 kHz and the Nyquist principle states tha you have to to sample
    at twice the highest frequency (to do ADC and then DAC faithfully) so
    that's 40 kHz. CDs already support 44 Khz audio....

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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 10:08:27 2023
    Your MARC 2 PRO provides some special characteristics. In the
    following you will get a short overview of them:
    - Support of 24 bit and 96 kHz
    - Balanced analog inputs and outputs
    - An integrated SyncBus
    - Windows multi-client drivers for ASIO, GSIF, MME and DirectSound
    - Multiple card support (upto 4 cards can be used at the same time)
    - DAT Marker support
    - Latency-free and flexible monitoring
    - Using ASIO latency periods of 2 ms are possible
    - Wordclock synchronisation
    - AES/EBU digital ports
    - Electrical S/PDIF digital ports

    ** theres also a couple of SPDIF optical connectors **


    Driver suite
    Features:

         short PCI card: 32-bit 33MHz, 5V
         Sample formats: 8, 16, 20, 24, 32 Bit Mono/Stereo
         Sample rates analog: 8-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
         Sample rates digital: 32-96 kHz +/-15% Pitch
         Frequency response @ 44,1 kHz: 20 Hz to 20 kHz
         Frequency response @ 96 kHz: 20 Hz to 40 kHz
         Input/output level: +18 dBu
         SNR AD @ 44.1 kHz: 104 dB(A)
         SNR DA @ 44.1 kHz: 114 dB(A)
         THD+N AD @ -0,5 dbFS: 0,002%
         THD+N DA @ 0 dbFS: 0,002%
         Special versions with input Level Gain +24 dBu available



    Theo


    96 kHz support is rather overkill as most people's ears cannot hear
    beyond 20 kHz and the Nyquist principle states tha you have to to sample
    at twice the highest frequency (to do ADC and then DAC faithfully) so
    that's 40 kHz. CDs already support 44 Khz audio....

    Perhaps so, but a lot of "professional" recordings are done at 192kHZ
    and a 384kHZ standard is in use as well, but I don't know how widespread
    that is.

    Meanwhile, in the last 40 years the resolution of the ADCs has moved
    from 16 bits to 20 bits to 24 and (claimed) in some cases 32 bits

    The £20 version of Cubase which I use supports 192 kHZ and its "big
    brother" product Nuendo supports 384kHZ

    You can pick up 4 channel 192k USB interfaces on eBay for less than £100
    - the quality of the mic pre-amps might be another issue though ...

    CDs may already "support" 44 Khz audio but it might be more accurate to
    say that they are limited to it

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 10:56:45 2023
    On 14/11/2023 08:22, SH wrote:

    96 kHz support is rather overkill as most people's ears cannot hear
    beyond 20 kHz and the Nyquist principle states tha you have to to sample
    at twice the highest frequency (to do ADC and then DAC faithfully) so
    that's 40 kHz. CDs already support 44 Khz audio....

    CDs are 44,100Hz, and broadcast commonly uses 48,000.

    If you want to transfer from one to the other there's a risk you'll get artefacts at 3,900Hz.

    Convert from 96k to either and you'll be fine.

    You'll also find it's commonplace to have far higher standards in a
    studio than you need in a home system - just because they are going to
    be mixing all sorts of things, and probably running through the loop
    several times.

    Andy

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