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    From David@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 28 19:02:18 2023
    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't get
    SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?

    Cheers


    Dave R


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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to David on Sun Oct 29 10:43:17 2023
    On 28/10/2023 20:02, David wrote:
    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't get SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?


    Try CrystalDiskInfo
    - https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 11:21:31 2023
    In article <kq545qFjtu1U1@mid.individual.net>, David wrote...

    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't get SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?

    Cheers


    Dave R

    Acronis Drive Monitor was good for several years, but it hasn't been maintained and I've found it now too glitchy to use. I pay for Hard Disk Sentinel - how important is your data?

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Mon Oct 30 17:15:30 2023
    On 30/10/2023 11:21, Philip Herlihy wrote:
    Acronis Drive Monitor was good for several years, but it hasn't been maintained and I've found it now too glitchy to use. I pay for Hard Disk Sentinel - how important is your data?

    Mine is important enough that I back up online to a RAID pair, and intermittently offline to a drive kept in a different building.

    Any drive can fail at any time with no warning.

    Andy

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 10:38:30 2023
    In article <kq545qFjtu1U1@mid.individual.net>, David wrote...

    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't get SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?

    Cheers


    Dave R

    Acronis Drive Monitor was good for several years, but it hasn't been maintained and I've found it now too glitchy to use. I pay for Hard Disk Sentinel - how important is your data?

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Tue Oct 31 11:57:34 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:38:30 +0000, Philip Herlihy wrote:

    In article <kq545qFjtu1U1@mid.individual.net>, David wrote...

    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't
    get SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?

    Cheers


    Dave R

    Acronis Drive Monitor was good for several years, but it hasn't been maintained and I've found it now too glitchy to use. I pay for Hard
    Disk Sentinel - how important is your data?

    As I noted, the Crucial free utility works fine.
    Just doesn't do the background monitoring that Acronis does, as far as I
    can tell.


    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Abandoned Trolley@21:1/5 to David on Thu Nov 9 12:45:08 2023
    On 28/10/2023 20:02, David wrote:
    I've just installed a 1TB Crucial P3 SSD.
    PCIe 3.0 NVMe M.2.

    All working fine so far but Acronis Drive Monitor says that it can't get SMART data.

    It works fine for the SATA drives (2.5" and 3.5", mix of SSD and HDD).

    I've installed the Crucial tool to check SMART data and all is looking
    good so far.

    I'm just wondering if this is an Acronis thing, an NVMe thing, or what?

    Cheers


    Dave R




    Been down the GPT / MBR rabbit hole ?

    UEFI/BIOS/Secure boot variables ?

    Is the M.2 device being forced in to SATA mode either by BIOS setting or
    by you using a particular SATA port ?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Abandoned Trolley on Fri Nov 10 16:51:14 2023
    Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:
    Been down the GPT / MBR rabbit hole ?

    UEFI/BIOS/Secure boot variables ?

    I don't think those will make any difference.

    Is the M.2 device being forced in to SATA mode either by BIOS setting or
    by you using a particular SATA port ?

    M.2 devices don't have a 'SATA mode' or a 'PCIe/NVMe mode', they're either
    one or the other.

    It is possible that Acronis doesn't know how to do SMART with NVMe devices. Apparently it is discontinued and doesn't support Windows later than 7: https://kb.acronis.com/content/58078?ckattempt=1
    so maybe they never added support.

    Theo

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Theo on Sun Nov 12 12:41:32 2023
    On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:51:14 +0000, Theo wrote:

    Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:
    Been down the GPT / MBR rabbit hole ?

    UEFI/BIOS/Secure boot variables ?

    I don't think those will make any difference.

    Is the M.2 device being forced in to SATA mode either by BIOS setting
    or by you using a particular SATA port ?

    M.2 devices don't have a 'SATA mode' or a 'PCIe/NVMe mode', they're
    either one or the other.

    It is possible that Acronis doesn't know how to do SMART with NVMe
    devices.
    Apparently it is discontinued and doesn't support Windows later than 7: https://kb.acronis.com/content/58078?ckattempt=1 so maybe they never
    added support.

    Theo

    As noted upstream the Crucial utility reads the SMART data just fine.
    Shame about Acronis because it was useful in doing background monitoring.

    Cheers

    Dave R


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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 13:07:34 2023
    In article <krbvfsFe9j4U1@mid.individual.net>, David wrote...

    On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:51:14 +0000, Theo wrote:

    Abandoned Trolley <fred@fred-smith.co.uk> wrote:
    Been down the GPT / MBR rabbit hole ?

    UEFI/BIOS/Secure boot variables ?

    I don't think those will make any difference.

    Is the M.2 device being forced in to SATA mode either by BIOS setting
    or by you using a particular SATA port ?

    M.2 devices don't have a 'SATA mode' or a 'PCIe/NVMe mode', they're
    either one or the other.

    It is possible that Acronis doesn't know how to do SMART with NVMe
    devices.
    Apparently it is discontinued and doesn't support Windows later than 7: https://kb.acronis.com/content/58078?ckattempt=1 so maybe they never
    added support.

    Theo

    As noted upstream the Crucial utility reads the SMART data just fine.
    Shame about Acronis because it was useful in doing background monitoring.

    Cheers

    Dave R

    For background monitoring I use HD Sentinel. Not free, but very good. (Not expensive either, though.)

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