• USB funny on W10

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 16 15:17:45 2023
    I have had this twice now.

    I try to add a new USB device but for some reason it fails to work with
    the program it should, even though the device is at least partially
    detected by W10.

    Leave to mulch for some time (probably until after the next W10 update)
    and suddenly it springs to life.

    Too many variables, too little time for a detailed diagnostic but it does
    seem strange.

    Now wondering if anyone else has seen this.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to David on Wed Aug 16 17:52:09 2023
    On 16/08/2023 16:17, David wrote:
    I have had this twice now.

    I " a new USB device but for some reason it fails to work with
    the program it should, even though the device is at least partially
    detected by W10.

    Leave to mulch for some time (probably until after the next W10 update)
    and suddenly it springs to life.

    Too many variables, too little time for a detailed diagnostic but it does seem strange.

    Now wondering if anyone else has seen this.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    All sounds a bit vague to me.


    What's the device ? - and are you provding some sort of driver for it,
    or expecting it to work by the "magic" of Windows Plug and Pray

    I have had similar experiences with a couple of graphics cards running
    in dual screen mode.

    Also, I have had experience with multi channel sound cards which Windows
    never properly detect, and as a result never work with "the program they should" (Cubase) until you get in there and spoon feed it a proper ASIO
    driver



    As you say ... too many variables

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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 17 14:11:56 2023
    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:52:09 +0100, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:

    On 16/08/2023 16:17, David wrote:
    I have had this twice now.

    I " a new USB device but for some reason it fails to work with the
    program it should, even though the device is at least partially
    detected by W10.

    Leave to mulch for some time (probably until after the next W10 update)
    and suddenly it springs to life.

    Too many variables, too little time for a detailed diagnostic but it
    does seem strange.

    Now wondering if anyone else has seen this.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    All sounds a bit vague to me.


    What's the device ? - and are you provding some sort of driver for it,
    or expecting it to work by the "magic" of Windows Plug and Pray

    I have had similar experiences with a couple of graphics cards running
    in dual screen mode.

    Also, I have had experience with multi channel sound cards which Windows never properly detect, and as a result never work with "the program they should" (Cubase) until you get in there and spoon feed it a proper ASIO driver



    As you say ... too many variables

    Two devices.

    First was a GPS receiver tested on 2 * W10 (this laptop and an All-In-One). IIRC it worked in W7 but not W8.1. Drivers supplied by manufacturer and installed. Their test software worked but Windows would not recognise it
    as a GPS device so not available to e.g. web browsers.

    Second was a serial adapter cable coupled to a blood glucose monitor which
    used to work under W7 until support was withdrawn.

    This one tested on the laptop, desktop (now upgraded to W10).
    Also didn't work on W8.1.
    Latest drivers downloaded from manufacturer but no joy.
    I could see the serial device being detected, but communication with the glucose monitor from the web site didn't work.

    This second one has just started working after the latest round of W10
    updates in the last week.

    Cheers


    Dave R

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to David on Fri Aug 18 07:52:56 2023
    On 17/08/2023 15:11, David wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:52:09 +0100, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:

    On 16/08/2023 16:17, David wrote:
    I have had this twice now.

    I " a new USB device but for some reason it fails to work with the
    program it should, even though the device is at least partially
    detected by W10.

    Leave to mulch for some time (probably until after the next W10 update)
    and suddenly it springs to life.

    Too many variables, too little time for a detailed diagnostic but it
    does seem strange.

    Now wondering if anyone else has seen this.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    All sounds a bit vague to me.


    What's the device ? - and are you provding some sort of driver for it,
    or expecting it to work by the "magic" of Windows Plug and Pray

    I have had similar experiences with a couple of graphics cards running
    in dual screen mode.

    Also, I have had experience with multi channel sound cards which Windows
    never properly detect, and as a result never work with "the program they
    should" (Cubase) until you get in there and spoon feed it a proper ASIO
    driver



    As you say ... too many variables

    Two devices.

    First was a GPS receiver tested on 2 * W10 (this laptop and an All-In-One). IIRC it worked in W7 but not W8.1. Drivers supplied by manufacturer and installed. Their test software worked but Windows would not recognise it
    as a GPS device so not available to e.g. web browsers.

    Second was a serial adapter cable coupled to a blood glucose monitor which used to work under W7 until support was withdrawn.

    This one tested on the laptop, desktop (now upgraded to W10).
    Also didn't work on W8.1.
    Latest drivers downloaded from manufacturer but no joy.
    I could see the serial device being detected, but communication with the glucose monitor from the web site didn't work.

    This second one has just started working after the latest round of W10 updates in the last week.

    Cheers


    Dave R



    "used to work under W7 until support was withdrawn" sort of suggests
    that it might be pre W10 "legacy" ?


    If thats the case then the only think I can think of is that the
    installation program could be run in W7 compatbility mode ?

    While you are in there you could run the compatibility troubleshooter ?

    Its something that seems to have worked for me with a couple of NVidia
    graphics cards but might just be another rabbit hole ...





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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 11:19:52 2023
    On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:52:56 +0100, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:

    On 17/08/2023 15:11, David wrote:
    On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:52:09 +0100, Abandoned_Trolley wrote:

    On 16/08/2023 16:17, David wrote:
    I have had this twice now.

    I " a new USB device but for some reason it fails to work with the
    program it should, even though the device is at least partially
    detected by W10.

    Leave to mulch for some time (probably until after the next W10
    update)
    and suddenly it springs to life.

    Too many variables, too little time for a detailed diagnostic but it
    does seem strange.

    Now wondering if anyone else has seen this.

    Cheers



    Dave R



    All sounds a bit vague to me.


    What's the device ? - and are you provding some sort of driver for it,
    or expecting it to work by the "magic" of Windows Plug and Pray

    I have had similar experiences with a couple of graphics cards running
    in dual screen mode.

    Also, I have had experience with multi channel sound cards which
    Windows never properly detect, and as a result never work with "the
    program they should" (Cubase) until you get in there and spoon feed it
    a proper ASIO driver



    As you say ... too many variables

    Two devices.

    First was a GPS receiver tested on 2 * W10 (this laptop and an
    All-In-One).
    IIRC it worked in W7 but not W8.1. Drivers supplied by manufacturer and
    installed. Their test software worked but Windows would not recognise
    it as a GPS device so not available to e.g. web browsers.

    Second was a serial adapter cable coupled to a blood glucose monitor
    which used to work under W7 until support was withdrawn.

    This one tested on the laptop, desktop (now upgraded to W10).
    Also didn't work on W8.1.
    Latest drivers downloaded from manufacturer but no joy.
    I could see the serial device being detected, but communication with
    the glucose monitor from the web site didn't work.

    This second one has just started working after the latest round of W10
    updates in the last week.

    Cheers


    Dave R



    "used to work under W7 until support was withdrawn" sort of suggests
    that it might be pre W10 "legacy" ?


    If thats the case then the only think I can think of is that the
    installation program could be run in W7 compatbility mode ?

    While you are in there you could run the compatibility troubleshooter ?

    Its something that seems to have worked for me with a couple of NVidia graphics cards but might just be another rabbit hole ...

    Noting that as stated both devices are now working under W10.

    For the BG monitor the drivers are up to date.
    The web site refused to update the drivers under W7 because W7 was no
    longer supported.
    Drivers were updated under W10.
    Even Viewer under W10 showed that the drivers were being associated with
    the serial device, and the serial device was being identified.

    Again, there seems no logical reason for it not to work.

    Also no logical reason for it suddenly to start working.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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