• FTTP

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 21:07:22 2023
    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which will go
    live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed speeds
    that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package guarantees 150
    Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive if
    you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Here we go it's getting close, now it's just who wants it most.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 22:30:28 2023
    On 11/07/2023 22:28, SH wrote:
    On 11/07/2023 22:26, SH wrote:
    On 11/07/2023 22:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which
    will go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed
    speeds that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package
    guarantees 150 Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive
    if you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?



    I am on FTTH/FTTP and vodafone gave me an ONT (Optical Network
    Terminator) and a Router.

    I had a choice of 100/100, 500/500 and 900/900 service.

    The router has a POTS socket on the back and so I connected taht house
    phones.

    Surprised at the low speed packages you are being offered... Are you
    being offered a FTTC product (fibre to the cabinet) instead of FTTP/
    FTTH (Fibre to the Home, Fibre to the premises) product?

    I've just looked at giganet's website for my home address and I got
    the following options:


    bah! Clicked send too soon!

    https://www.giganet.uk/results/

    so It appears I can have the full monty from Giganet at my humble
    abode.....

    S.


    P.P.S. Giganet don't do VOIP at the moment and they recommend Vonage or
    Andrews and Arnold:

    (the latter are actually very good for VOIP)

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/does-giganet-offer-home-phone-packages/

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 22:28:13 2023
    On 11/07/2023 22:26, SH wrote:
    On 11/07/2023 22:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which
    will go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed
    speeds that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package
    guarantees 150 Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive
    if you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?



    I am on FTTH/FTTP and vodafone gave me an ONT (Optical Network
    Terminator) and a Router.

    I had a choice of 100/100, 500/500 and 900/900 service.

    The router has a POTS socket on the back and so I connected taht house phones.

    Surprised at the low speed packages you are being offered... Are you
    being offered a FTTC product (fibre to the cabinet) instead of FTTP/
    FTTH (Fibre to the Home, Fibre to the premises) product?

    I've just looked at giganet's website for my home address and I got the following options:


    bah! Clicked send too soon!

    https://www.giganet.uk/results/

    so It appears I can have the full monty from Giganet at my humble abode.....

    S.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Jul 11 22:26:31 2023
    On 11/07/2023 22:07, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which will
    go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed speeds
    that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package guarantees 150
    Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive if
    you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?



    I am on FTTH/FTTP and vodafone gave me an ONT (Optical Network
    Terminator) and a Router.

    I had a choice of 100/100, 500/500 and 900/900 service.

    The router has a POTS socket on the back and so I connected taht house
    phones.

    Surprised at the low speed packages you are being offered... Are you
    being offered a FTTC product (fibre to the cabinet) instead of FTTP/
    FTTH (Fibre to the Home, Fibre to the premises) product?

    I've just looked at giganet's website for my home address and I got the following options:

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to u8khll$3109r$1@dont-email.me on Tue Jul 11 21:36:01 2023
    On 11/07/2023 in message <u8khll$3109r$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

    P.P.S. Giganet don't do VOIP at the moment and they recommend Vonage or >Andrews and Arnold:

    (the latter are actually very good for VOIP)

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/does-giganet-offer-home-phone-packages/

    Price starts to build up, I wonder if Plusnet might offer something over
    the Giganet backbone, will have to see!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who
    watch them without doing anything. (Albert Einstein)

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to u8khhf$3109s$2@dont-email.me on Tue Jul 11 21:34:51 2023
    On 11/07/2023 in message <u8khhf$3109s$2@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

    bah! Clicked send too soon!

    https://www.giganet.uk/results/

    so It appears I can have the full monty from Giganet at my humble
    abode.....

    Don't think that works without your postcode!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Here we go it's getting close, now it's just who wants it most.

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 08:20:55 2023
    In article <MPG.3f18641057e58229989a78@news.eternal-september.org>, Philip Herlihy wrote...

    In article <xn0o485bf7s63d900h@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote...

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which will go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed speeds that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package guarantees 150 Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive if
    you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?

    We've just moved from BT at about 70 Mbps to Community Fibre at 1,000 Mbps. Combined with a new state-of-the-art mobile phone the difference is astonishing. Downloads are all instant. We have a phone service (number duly ported) as well. Irritatingly, I bought a VOIP-capable phone a couple of years
    ago (supposedly "future proofing"), but I don't think anyone at CF "support" knows who knows (someone must know) how to connect it up, so I have to use the
    Grandstream phone adapter they supplied. It all works perfectly, but CF seem a
    chaotic organisation so I do worry what would happen if I got a fault. Cheap as chips, though - half the price of the BT service.

    Worth mentioning the one "VOIP" benefit - with the installed CF app, a call to my landline also rings (and can be taken) on my mobile.

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 08:18:17 2023
    In article <xn0o485bf7s63d900h@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote...

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which will go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed speeds
    that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package guarantees 150
    Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    They don't offer any form of 'phone service so it would be expensive if
    you wanted a landline 'phone and FTTP.

    Anybody here experienced that? If so what do you do?

    We've just moved from BT at about 70 Mbps to Community Fibre at 1,000 Mbps. Combined with a new state-of-the-art mobile phone the difference is astonishing. Downloads are all instant. We have a phone service (number duly ported) as well. Irritatingly, I bought a VOIP-capable phone a couple of years ago (supposedly "future proofing"), but I don't think anyone at CF "support" knows who knows (someone must know) how to connect it up, so I have to use the Grandstream phone adapter they supplied. It all works perfectly, but CF seem a chaotic organisation so I do worry what would happen if I got a fault. Cheap as chips, though - half the price of the BT service.

    --

    Phil, London

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 12 10:57:02 2023
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I have a response from Giganet on their future FTTP offering which will go live later this year.

    They offer a "symmetrical" service with equal up/down guaranteed speeds
    that are half that of the package, i.e. 300 Mb/s package guarantees 150
    Mb/s each way, details here:

    https://www.giganet.uk/faq/do-you-have-a-speed-guarantee/

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    It's their 'guaranteed minimum speed', ie the speed below which you get your money back. Ofcom made every ISP do this because of the way DSL ISPs were advertising 'up to 80Mbps' when the actual speed was nowhere near.

    Basically you should get 300, but you don't have a right to demand compensation/remediation unless it's below 150. The local loop should run reliably at 300 if that's the link speed (unlike FTTC where it could change depending how the wind blows), but congestion in their network/internet pipe/etc could cause speed drops at peak times.

    A 50% drop is common for FTTC but sounds a bit lazy for FTTP. Although
    maybe there is potential for their upstream to be congested in the worst
    case.

    Theo

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 12 10:21:36 2023
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    Then simply think of it as a 150Mbps package, rather than 300Mbps, and
    you'll get the full speed :-)

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 12 09:31:56 2023
    On 12/07/2023 in message <kh79kvFr280U6@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
    wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I though fibre gave you the full package speed?

    Then simply think of it as a 150Mbps package, rather than 300Mbps, and
    you'll get the full speed :-)

    Aah, good thinking Batman :-)

    Makes it expensive...

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    How does a gender neutral bog differ from a unisex bog ?
    It has a non-binary number on the door.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Jul 12 18:33:51 2023
    On 11/07/2023 22:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 11/07/2023 in message <u8khhf$3109s$2@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

    bah! Clicked send too soon!

    https://www.giganet.uk/results/

    so It appears I can have the full monty from Giganet at my humble
    abode.....

    Don't think that works without your postcode!


    it does actually!

    https://ibb.co/kqsDcyX

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