• Sit Stand desks/platforms; kit of parts or similar?

    From jkn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 14 13:47:30 2021
    Hi All
    as a work-from-homer these days I am sitting down during the day
    rather more that I would like. I have a posture chair that has served me well for many years, and do all the 'right' things, but I am thinking that a sit-stand area
    would be a good thing to have.

    For the space I have, a fairly small motorised area would probably be best.
    As a d-i-yer I am not keen to pay stupid prices for custom designs when I
    could build something myself; but as I am time-poor I don't really want to do something totally from scratch.

    Are there any UK-based people who sell a sort of 'design + kit of parts' for this kind of thing? I've seen plenty of designs and people selling stuff, but mostly Amurican. A well-proven actuator and control design, to assemble
    with wiring, switches and platforms of your own choosing, is the sort
    of thing I am looking for,

    Thanks for any suggestions
    Jon N

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to jkn on Tue Sep 14 23:13:11 2021
    jkn <jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:
    Are there any UK-based people who sell a sort of 'design + kit of parts' for this kind of thing? I've seen plenty of designs and people selling stuff, but
    mostly Amurican. A well-proven actuator and control design, to assemble
    with wiring, switches and platforms of your own choosing, is the sort
    of thing I am looking for,

    One evening a colleague and I discovered that our adjustable work desks take
    an allen key head at each end to turn a gear to adjust the height. A pair
    of battery drills later...

    Theo

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to jkn on Wed Sep 15 02:13:45 2021
    On 14 Sep 2021 at 21:47:30 BST, "jkn" <jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    Hi All
    as a work-from-homer these days I am sitting down during the day
    rather more that I would like. I have a posture chair that has served me well for many years, and do all the 'right' things, but I am thinking that a sit-stand area
    would be a good thing to have.

    For the space I have, a fairly small motorised area would probably be best. As a d-i-yer I am not keen to pay stupid prices for custom designs when I could build something myself; but as I am time-poor I don't really want to do something totally from scratch.

    Are there any UK-based people who sell a sort of 'design + kit of parts' for this kind of thing? I've seen plenty of designs and people selling stuff, but
    mostly Amurican. A well-proven actuator and control design, to assemble
    with wiring, switches and platforms of your own choosing, is the sort
    of thing I am looking for,


    Depends what you class as stupid prices, I guess. I went with https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/cat/bekant-desk-underframes-18965/?filters=f-feature%3A53486
    - one of the £3xx electrical ones plus a top. Haven't regretted it at
    all.

    Cheers - Jaimie

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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Wed Sep 15 00:28:56 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 3:13:48 AM UTC+1, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
    On 14 Sep 2021 at 21:47:30 BST, "jkn" <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    Hi All
    as a work-from-homer these days I am sitting down during the day
    rather more that I would like. I have a posture chair that has served me well for many years, and do all the 'right' things, but I am thinking that a sit-stand area
    would be a good thing to have.

    For the space I have, a fairly small motorised area would probably be best.
    As a d-i-yer I am not keen to pay stupid prices for custom designs when I could build something myself; but as I am time-poor I don't really want to do
    something totally from scratch.

    Are there any UK-based people who sell a sort of 'design + kit of parts' for
    this kind of thing? I've seen plenty of designs and people selling stuff, but
    mostly Amurican. A well-proven actuator and control design, to assemble with wiring, switches and platforms of your own choosing, is the sort
    of thing I am looking for,

    Depends what you class as stupid prices, I guess. I went with https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/cat/bekant-desk-underframes-18965/?filters=f-feature%3A53486
    - one of the £3xx electrical ones plus a top. Haven't regretted it at
    all.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 11:12:56 2021
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n



    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and monitor.

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 12:58:48 2021
    In article <a046cbe2-8ee3-4acd-aaf1-fd8c57e9e1e5n@googlegroups.com>, jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk says...

    Hi All
    as a work-from-homer these days I am sitting down during the day
    rather more that I would like. I have a posture chair that has served me well for many years, and do all the 'right' things, but I am thinking that a sit-stand area
    would be a good thing to have.

    For the space I have, a fairly small motorised area would probably be best. As a d-i-yer I am not keen to pay stupid prices for custom designs when I could build something myself; but as I am time-poor I don't really want to do something totally from scratch.

    Are there any UK-based people who sell a sort of 'design + kit of parts' for this kind of thing? I've seen plenty of designs and people selling stuff, but
    mostly Amurican. A well-proven actuator and control design, to assemble
    with wiring, switches and platforms of your own choosing, is the sort
    of thing I am looking for,

    Thanks for any suggestions
    Jon N

    Not exactly what you've asked for, but these might be worth a look (if you can fit one in).
    https://mysmartdesk.co.uk/collections/desks

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    Phil, London

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to jkn on Wed Sep 15 14:12:55 2021
    On 15/09/2021 13:44, jkn wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 11:12:57 AM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a
    platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and
    monitor.

    Well, yes, but I want to be able to adjust the height. Or am I misunderstanding you?


    You make the platform to suit your height when standing, then remove it
    when seated.

    I don't see why you would need to adjust it all the time? At least, I
    made one for my treadmill walking desk, and it's not needed to be adjusted.

    You can include adjustable feet from a kitchen unit for fine tuning, eg
    36145 at Screwfix.




    (I've re-done my 'research' and remembered things like the Varidesk products, which are spring-loaded rather than motorised. I am wondering if a S/Hand one of those
    might work, at least to prove/disprove the utility of such an item)

    J^n


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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 05:44:30 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 11:12:57 AM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and monitor.

    Well, yes, but I want to be able to adjust the height. Or am I misunderstanding you?

    (I've re-done my 'research' and remembered things like the Varidesk products, which are spring-loaded rather than motorised. I am wondering if a S/Hand one of those
    might work, at least to prove/disprove the utility of such an item)

    J^n

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  • From Paul G@21:1/5 to jkn on Wed Sep 15 14:41:43 2021
    My employer provided a Varidesk desktop converter which simply sits atop
    an existing desk. It works but the mechanism is a bit clunky and has a
    large footprint. Its scissor mechanism means the front moves towards you
    as you raise the the height.

    HTH Paul

    On 15/09/2021 13:44, jkn wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 11:12:57 AM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a
    platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and
    monitor.

    Well, yes, but I want to be able to adjust the height. Or am I misunderstanding you?

    (I've re-done my 'research' and remembered things like the Varidesk products, which are spring-loaded rather than motorised. I am wondering if a S/Hand one of those
    might work, at least to prove/disprove the utility of such an item)

    J^n


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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Wed Sep 15 15:29:13 2021
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    https://mysmartdesk.co.uk/collections/desks

    A remarkable lack of cables ...

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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to Paul G on Wed Sep 15 08:32:35 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 2:41:45 PM UTC+1, Paul G wrote:
    My employer provided a Varidesk desktop converter which simply sits atop
    an existing desk. It works but the mechanism is a bit clunky and has a
    large footprint. Its scissor mechanism means the front moves towards you
    as you raise the the height.

    HTH Paul

    Hi Paul
    Yes, I'm looking at these. The scissor movement would probably be fine
    but as you say the footprint is quite large (I'm looking at the Varidesk Pro Plus 30).

    Thanks,
    J^n


    On 15/09/2021 13:44, jkn wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 11:12:57 AM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a
    platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and
    monitor.

    Well, yes, but I want to be able to adjust the height. Or am I misunderstanding you?

    (I've re-done my 'research' and remembered things like the Varidesk products,
    which are spring-loaded rather than motorised. I am wondering if a S/Hand one of those
    might work, at least to prove/disprove the utility of such an item)

    J^n


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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 15 08:32:38 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 2:12:56 PM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    On 15/09/2021 13:44, jkn wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 11:12:57 AM UTC+1, GB wrote:
    Hi Jamie
    it's more a 'platform' I am looking for than a whole desk; sorry if my original posting
    didn't make that clear.

    Cheers, J^n

    If you want to keep this cheap, really cheap, you could make yourself a
    platform to place on the desk. Just big enough to take the keyboard and
    monitor.

    Well, yes, but I want to be able to adjust the height. Or am I misunderstanding you?
    You make the platform to suit your height when standing, then remove it
    when seated.

    I don't see why you would need to adjust it all the time? At least, I
    made one for my treadmill walking desk, and it's not needed to be adjusted.

    You can include adjustable feet from a kitchen unit for fine tuning, eg
    36145 at Screwfix.

    Well, that's the point of the "sit-stand' idea; I would expect to move it up/down at least
    a few times each day. Without grappling with monitor/cables/keyboard etc. Yes, if a 'platform' is all I want, I would certainly go this way.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Chris Ridd on Thu Sep 16 12:32:27 2021
    On 16/09/2021 12:22, Chris Ridd wrote:
    On 15/09/2021 15:29, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    https://mysmartdesk.co.uk/collections/desks

    A remarkable lack of cables ...

    And curious that Apple and Google devices aren't supported somehow. Not really clear what though.


    Unless I am seriously mistaken, isn't that an Apple Macbook Air/Pro on
    the table in the picture?

    Rather misleading advertising don't you think?

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  • From Chris Ridd@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Sep 16 12:22:46 2021
    On 15/09/2021 15:29, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    https://mysmartdesk.co.uk/collections/desks

    A remarkable lack of cables ...

    And curious that Apple and Google devices aren't supported somehow. Not
    really clear what though.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to jkn on Thu Sep 16 12:09:00 2021
    On 15 Sep 2021 at 16:32:35 BST, "jkn" <jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 2:41:45 PM UTC+1, Paul G wrote:
    My employer provided a Varidesk desktop converter which simply sits atop
    an existing desk. It works but the mechanism is a bit clunky and has a
    large footprint. Its scissor mechanism means the front moves towards you
    as you raise the the height.

    HTH Paul

    Hi Paul
    Yes, I'm looking at these. The scissor movement would probably be fine but as you say the footprint is quite large (I'm looking at the Varidesk Pro Plus 30).



    I too have used one of those with work - they are fine, as they bring
    the keyboard/mouse/monitor/wristrest with them, you just end up standing
    6" further back and all is the same.

    I find a fully variable one a fair bit more useful (and a lot less
    imposing) than the Varidesk though, allows for slumpage during the work
    day!

    Cheers - Jaimie


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to i.love.spam@spam.com on Thu Sep 16 13:18:22 2021
    SH <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:
    On 16/09/2021 12:22, Chris Ridd wrote:
    And curious that Apple and Google devices aren't supported somehow. Not really clear what though.


    Unless I am seriously mistaken, isn't that an Apple Macbook Air/Pro on
    the table in the picture?

    Rather misleading advertising don't you think?

    Judging from the supported brands I think the USB-C is some kind of Qualcomm
    QC charger, rather than USB-PD which is the protocol Apple and Google use.
    You are free to place a Macbook Pro/etc on the desk, it just won't charge
    from it.

    It doesn't give any specs for the charger, but I'd expect it's 15W or less.
    So wouldn't be that useful for charging a laptop anyway. You may be able to charge an iPhone at a slow rate, or something with 5V charging like some Chromebooks.

    Theo

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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Sep 16 14:16:59 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 3:29:23 PM UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    https://mysmartdesk.co.uk/collections/desks

    A remarkable lack of cables ...

    That bears about as much relation to the the state of my work surface as ...

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  • From jkn@21:1/5 to Paul G on Sat Sep 18 10:53:32 2021
    On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 2:41:45 PM UTC+1, Paul G wrote:
    My employer provided a Varidesk desktop converter which simply sits atop
    an existing desk. It works but the mechanism is a bit clunky and has a
    large footprint. Its scissor mechanism means the front moves towards you
    as you raise the the height.

    Well, I've won an eBay auction bid on one of there - there is clearly a bit of a
    market in them, I wonder how many people are trying and giving up on
    them?
    Anyway, although not totally what I had in mind, at least it will allow to experiment
    with the sit-sand concept, and see it is worth getting something fancier in time.

    Cheers, J^n

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