• Should People Need a Licence to buy a Computer?

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 30 08:56:41 2023
    I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
    not much left for Windows on Usenet.

    Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
    with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.

    I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the menu
    bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    PS I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu although
    that leaves you working blind.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue May 30 10:44:55 2023
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu

    You mean alt + space ?

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 30 09:54:12 2023
    On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
    wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
    academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
    which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
    be taught. In general.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    If you mean 'am I serious about what I do', the answer is yes.
    If you mean 'am I serious about how I do it', the answer is no.

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue May 30 11:45:45 2023
    On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
    not much left for Windows on Usenet.

    Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
    with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.

    I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
    menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    PSĀ  I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu although that leaves you working blind.



    Some time ago I bought a Yamaha stage piano from a girl in London who
    "didn't need it any more as she had finished her music degree"


    Before we packed it up in the box she played it for a (mercifully) brief period, just to prove the point :-\


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  • From IanJ@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue May 30 11:15:34 2023
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    In answer to your subject, I guess she would be one of the qualified
    ones! :o

    Best regards,

    Ian

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 30 11:16:06 2023
    On 30/05/2023 in message <kdlusmF8gagU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
    wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I also added the Alt + Escape trick to open she system menu

    You mean alt + space ?

    Whoops, yes, I got it right on FB, just checked :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday. (Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Wed May 31 14:14:49 2023
    On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:54:12 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
    wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
    academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
    which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
    be taught. In general.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Nothing changes.

    In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial programming.
    Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re-
    educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
    smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever abstract device their lecturer was fond of.

    Bitter?
    Moi?

    Cheers


    Dave R


    --
    AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to David on Wed May 31 15:28:44 2023
    On 31 May 2023 at 15:14:49 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:54:12 +0000, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
    wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
    academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
    which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
    be taught. In general.

    Cheers - Jaimie

    Nothing changes.

    In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial programming.
    Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re- educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
    smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever abstract device their lecturer was fond of.

    Bitter?
    Moi?


    Yes, that sounds *very* familiar!

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    I am always a bit unhappy when I spot a bit of text that
    made perfect sense in my brain but on passing through
    my fingers turned into a word salad suggesting that
    someone had jammed an ice pick into my head and
    stirred while I was typing. -- James Nicoll

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Jaimie Vandenbergh on Thu Jun 1 03:37:47 2023
    On 2023-05-30, Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
    On 30 May 2023 at 09:56:41 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    Her details say she studied computer science...

    When hiring recent graduates into dev/ops/sec roles, I'm always far more
    wary of CS grads than any other course. CS courses appear to be very
    academic and don't give any practical skills with computing at all,
    which is fair, but the grads *think* they know everything and refuse to
    be taught. In general.

    As Mark Twain once said. When I was 20 my old man knew nothing, but over
    the next 20 years he learn't a great deal.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Thu Jun 1 13:11:02 2023
    On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's
    not much left for Windows on Usenet.

    Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen
    with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.

    I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
    menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.

    Her details say she studied computer science...


    Here ya go...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computer_Driving_Licence

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Caspersz on Thu Jun 1 13:16:26 2023
    On 01/06/2023 in message <kdrg6mF3ubsU1@mid.individual.net> Adrian
    Caspersz wrote:

    On 30/05/2023 09:56, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I subscribe to a Facebook group for Windows Help & Support since there's >>not much left for Windows on Usenet.

    Somebody found when opening Edge that is was off the left of the screen >>with only half an inch showing and didn't know what to do.

    I suggested pulling the right edge of the window so she could see the
    menu bar. Wow, that worked, effusive thanks given.

    Her details say she studied computer science...


    Here ya go...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Computer_Driving_Licence

    Oh wow, I thought that was a joke at first :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 4 20:49:45 2023
    On 31/05/2023 15:14, David wrote:
    Nothing changes.

    In the 1970s CS graduates were a nightmare if brought into commercial programming.
    Better to bring in someone with no experience instead of having to re- educate someone who has spent their whole degree writing smaller and
    smaller blocks of re-entrant code to use the minimum memory on whatever abstract device their lecturer was fond of.

    Bitter?
    Moi?

    At the end of the 70s I started my career in software. I was a typical
    graduate recruit - I'd messed up my degree by playing with the computer
    too much ;)

    Andy

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