On 25/02/2023 17:23, Pancho wrote:

On 25/02/2023 17:20, David wrote:

As the first part of my experiments about upgrading video and monitor I
decided to try a 40" Full HD TV.

Good news is that it fits.

Bad news is that the display is slightly off to the left and I can't seem
to move it with the display settings.
Nope - on further check Full HD at 60 Hz is too large for the screen -
overlap on all sides.
Tell NVidia to size to fit doesn't work.

1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz works fine.

Now wondering if my graphics card GeForce GT 710 is up to Full HD at
60 Hz.
I've looked at the immediately available specifications but nothing says
what the maximum resolution per frequency is.

I can see a claim of 4K at 30 Hz but that isn't helping much.

Maximum resolution seems higher than that supported by the TV, a Samsung
UE40H5000AK, so I am not sure that switching to a DVI->HDMI cable will
help, although it might be worth a try.

I was running the card HDMI into a monitor's DVI.
I assume the cable works both ways round.

Anyway, nothing is easy!

Why doesn't it offer Full HD at a lower frequency?
Possibly because not supported by the TV, I suppose.

Cheers

<https://www.lifewire.com/fix-overscan-in-windows-10-5179410>

Actually, that is a bit of a shit explanation. Most TV's have a specific setting, called overscan, or actual scan, something like that.

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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 17:23:04 +0000, Pancho wrote:

On 25/02/2023 17:20, David wrote:

As the first part of my experiments about upgrading video and monitor I
decided to try a 40" Full HD TV.

Good news is that it fits.

Bad news is that the display is slightly off to the left and I can't
seem to move it with the display settings.
Nope - on further check Full HD at 60 Hz is too large for the screen -
overlap on all sides.
Tell NVidia to size to fit doesn't work.

1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz works fine.

Now wondering if my graphics card GeForce GT 710 is up to Full HD at 60
Hz.
I've looked at the immediately available specifications but nothing
says what the maximum resolution per frequency is.

I can see a claim of 4K at 30 Hz but that isn't helping much.

Maximum resolution seems higher than that supported by the TV, a
Samsung UE40H5000AK, so I am not sure that switching to a DVI->HDMI
cable will help, although it might be worth a try.

I was running the card HDMI into a monitor's DVI.
I assume the cable works both ways round.

Anyway, nothing is easy!

Why doesn't it offer Full HD at a lower frequency?
Possibly because not supported by the TV, I suppose.

Cheers

<https://www.lifewire.com/fix-overscan-in-windows-10-5179410>

Ta - I am on Windows 7 and the instructions are to use the NVidia control panel.



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On 25/02/2023 17:20, David wrote:

As the first part of my experiments about upgrading video and monitor I decided to try a 40" Full HD TV.

Good news is that it fits.

Bad news is that the display is slightly off to the left and I can't seem
to move it with the display settings.
Nope - on further check Full HD at 60 Hz is too large for the screen - overlap on all sides.
Tell NVidia to size to fit doesn't work.

1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz works fine.

Now wondering if my graphics card GeForce GT 710 is up to Full HD at 60 Hz. I've looked at the immediately available specifications but nothing says
what the maximum resolution per frequency is.

I can see a claim of 4K at 30 Hz but that isn't helping much.

Maximum resolution seems higher than that supported by the TV, a Samsung UE40H5000AK, so I am not sure that switching to a DVI->HDMI cable will
help, although it might be worth a try.

I was running the card HDMI into a monitor's DVI.
I assume the cable works both ways round.

Anyway, nothing is easy!

Why doesn't it offer Full HD at a lower frequency?
Possibly because not supported by the TV, I suppose.

Cheers

<https://www.lifewire.com/fix-overscan-in-windows-10-5179410>

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As the first part of my experiments about upgrading video and monitor I
decided to try a 40" Full HD TV.

Good news is that it fits.

Bad news is that the display is slightly off to the left and I can't seem
to move it with the display settings.
Nope - on further check Full HD at 60 Hz is too large for the screen -
overlap on all sides.
Tell NVidia to size to fit doesn't work.

1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz works fine.

Now wondering if my graphics card GeForce GT 710 is up to Full HD at 60 Hz. I've looked at the immediately available specifications but nothing says
what the maximum resolution per frequency is.

I can see a claim of 4K at 30 Hz but that isn't helping much.

Maximum resolution seems higher than that supported by the TV, a Samsung UE40H5000AK, so I am not sure that switching to a DVI->HDMI cable will
help, although it might be worth a try.

I was running the card HDMI into a monitor's DVI.
I assume the cable works both ways round.

Anyway, nothing is easy!

Why doesn't it offer Full HD at a lower frequency?
Possibly because not supported by the TV, I suppose.

Cheers



Dave R

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On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 17:20:56 +0000, David wrote:

As the first part of my experiments about upgrading video and monitor I decided to try a 40" Full HD TV.

Good news is that it fits.

Bad news is that the display is slightly off to the left and I can't
seem to move it with the display settings.
Nope - on further check Full HD at 60 Hz is too large for the screen - overlap on all sides.
Tell NVidia to size to fit doesn't work.

1680 x 1050 at 60 Hz works fine.

Now wondering if my graphics card GeForce GT 710 is up to Full HD at 60
Hz.
I've looked at the immediately available specifications but nothing says
what the maximum resolution per frequency is.

I can see a claim of 4K at 30 Hz but that isn't helping much.

Maximum resolution seems higher than that supported by the TV, a Samsung UE40H5000AK, so I am not sure that switching to a DVI->HDMI cable will
help, although it might be worth a try.

I was running the card HDMI into a monitor's DVI.
I assume the cable works both ways round.

Anyway, nothing is easy!

Why doesn't it offer Full HD at a lower frequency?
Possibly because not supported by the TV, I suppose.

Well, there's a thing.

Just as an experiment I swapped the HDMI lead to the other port on the TV
and it is now working.

Original port labelled STB, working port labelled DVD.
Shown in the on screen menu as HDMI2/DVI as opposed to HDMI1.

I will see how I get on with the larger screen fairly close to my face!

Cheers

Dave R

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David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

Well, there's a thing.

Just as an experiment I swapped the HDMI lead to the other port on the TV
and it is now working.

Original port labelled STB, working port labelled DVD.
Shown in the on screen menu as HDMI2/DVI as opposed to HDMI1.

TVs are known to have picture-mangling processing, in the name of 'improvement'. Particularly egregious were the special 'features' like 'football mode'.

On the 40" 4K Samsung I used (~2014), the trick was to rename the input to 'PC', which disabled some of the mangling.

Also, you may find your GT710 can't do full 4K@60Hz - it'll be either 30Hz
or a reduced 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 chroma which makes adjacent colours fuzzy. https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/chroma-subsampling

Theo

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