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    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 14 09:35:48 2023
    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update
    offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most of
    my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Though no-one can go back and make a new start, everyone can start from
    now and make a new ending.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Feb 14 15:31:57 2023
    On 14/02/2023 09:35, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most
    of my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?


    Depends on the colour, has it too much salt. Does it normally face in a south-westerly direction. How high above sea level?

    Situation dependant.

    Windows updates have a reference you can read up on. Some certainly can
    be offered if they are critical. BIOS updates were in that category with Spectre Meltdown etc, but I guess the CPU on your laptop may be newer?

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    Adrian C

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Caspersz on Tue Feb 14 18:12:13 2023
    On 14/02/2023 in message <k51nreF5oqkU1@mid.individual.net> Adrian
    Caspersz wrote:

    On 14/02/2023 09:35, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update >>offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most
    of my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?


    Depends on the colour, has it too much salt. Does it normally face in a >south-westerly direction. How high above sea level?

    Situation dependant.

    Windows updates have a reference you can read up on. Some certainly can be >offered if they are critical. BIOS updates were in that category with
    Spectre Meltdown etc, but I guess the CPU on your laptop may be newer?

    It's about 7 months old, it's black and faces west when on my lap.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
    or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Thu Feb 16 22:37:51 2023
    On 16/02/2023 in message <h4btuh15oibmf1fig259mr1u7p1kgp29ho@4ax.com>
    Anthony R. Gold wrote:

    On 14 Feb 2023 09:35:48 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:


    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update >>offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most of >>my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?

    A Windows Update (i.e from Microsoft) that also includes a BIOS update?
    Label me a skeptic.

    Yes indeed, that's why I asked. In fact it did download and install a BIOS update using the facility built in to the Asus BIOS.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Thu Feb 16 22:49:37 2023
    On 16/02/2023 22:24, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    On 14 Feb 2023 09:35:48 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:


    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update
    offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most of >> my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?

    A Windows Update (i.e from Microsoft) that also includes a BIOS update?
    Label me a skeptic.

    Being sceptical is good but there's no doubt that BIOS updates can be
    offered as optional updates much as with drivers.

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/bringup/windows-uefi-firmware-update-platform




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    Robin
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  • From Anthony R. Gold@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Thu Feb 16 17:24:34 2023
    On 14 Feb 2023 09:35:48 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:


    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most of
    my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?

    A Windows Update (i.e from Microsoft) that also includes a BIOS update?
    Label me a skeptic.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Anthony R. Gold on Sat Feb 18 09:21:01 2023
    On 16/02/2023 22:24, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
    On 14 Feb 2023 09:35:48 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:


    On the newest of my laptops (which has a UEFI only BIOS) Windows update
    offered me a BIOS update yesterday. First time it has happened but most of >> my machines either don't have UEFI BIOSes or are locked to legacy mode.

    Is this normal now?

    A Windows Update (i.e from Microsoft) that also includes a BIOS update?
    Label me a skeptic.

    Typically updating those BIOS updates causes performance loss and
    instability particularly on unmanaged Windows systems out in consumer land.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltdown_(security_vulnerability)

    Recommended solution on a processor older than 2018 is to upgrade
    firmware or throw the old machine away.

    Or be a sitting duck ?

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sat Feb 18 09:30:31 2023
    On 18/02/2023 09:21, Adrian Caspersz wrote:


    Recommended solution on a processor older than 2018 is to upgrade
    firmware or throw the old machine away.

    Or be a sitting duck ?


    FWIW, from https://meltdownattack.com/

    Q. Has Meltdown or Spectre been abused in the wild?

    A. We don't know.

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    Adrian C

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