Settling in with my new setup with all data on one machine in a directory shared with all others. Everything was working OK until earlier today when
VS 2008 decide it didn't want to play any more. First it couldn't delete
files then once I had manually deleted them it decided it couldn't write
new files. I have put a question in to the VS forum to see if I am asking
too much from VS.

Pity as it works well for everything else so far.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to everybody in the group and thanks for all
your help :-)

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If you ever find something you like buy a lifetime supply because they
will stop making it

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On Saturday, 24 December 2022 at 15:42:53 UTC, Jeff Gaines wrote:

Settling in with my new setup with all data on one machine in a directory shared with all others. Everything was working OK until earlier today when VS 2008 decide it didn't want to play any more. First it couldn't delete files then once I had manually deleted them it decided it couldn't write
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Settling in with my new setup with all data on one machine in a directory shared with all others. Everything was working OK until earlier today when
VS 2008 decide it didn't want to play any more. First it couldn't delete
files then once I had manually deleted them it decided it couldn't write
new files. I have put a question in to the VS forum to see if I am asking
too much from VSut a question in to the VS forum to see if I am asking

too much from VS.

Pity as it works well for everything else so far.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to everybody in the group and thanks for all your help :-)

Are you an idiot ?

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On 24/12/2022 15:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:

Settling in with my new setup with all data on one machine in a
directory shared with all others. Everything was working OK until
earlier today when VS 2008 decide it didn't want to play any more. First
it couldn't delete files then once I had manually deleted them it
decided it couldn't write new files. I have put a question in to the VS
forum to see if I am asking too much from VS.

Have a look at the share with icacls.exe

https://theitbros.com/using-icacls-to-list-folder-permissions-and-manage-files/

Do you have the same username on your machines accessing this share?

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to everybody in the group

Same :)


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On 30/12/2022 in message <ed53df3c-45b5-4906-ae5d-fbaa834978ean@googlegroups.com> Max Collisions
wrote:

Are you an idiot ?

I don't believe so but I don't understand the purpose of your slightly odd post.

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Max Collisions explained :

On Saturday, 24 December 2022 at 15:42:53 UTC,
Jeff Gaines wrote:

Settling in with my new setup with all data on
one machine in a directory shared with all
others. Everything was working OK until
earlier today when VS 2008 decide it didn't
want to play any more. First it couldn't
delete files then once I had manually deleted
them it decided it couldn't write new files.
I have pJeff Gaines’s profile photo

Jeff Gaines
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24 Dec 2022, 15:42:53 (5 days ago)
to

Settling in with my new setup with all data on
one machine in a directory shared with all
others. Everything was working OK until earlier
today when VS 2008 decide it didn't want to
play any more. First it couldn't delete files
then once I had manually deleted them it
decided it couldn't write new files. I have put
a question in to the VS forum to see if I am
asking too much from VSut a question in to the
VS forum to see if I am asking

too much from VS.

Pity as it works well for everything else so
far.

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to everybody in
the group and thanks for all your help :-)

Are you an idiot ?

Why, are you looking for friends??

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On 30/12/2022 in message <k17o1fFbc4nU1@mid.individual.net> Adrian
Caspersz wrote:

On 24/12/2022 15:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:

Settling in with my new setup with all data on one machine in a directory >>shared with all others. Everything was working OK until earlier today
when VS 2008 decide it didn't want to play any more. First it couldn't >>delete files then once I had manually deleted them it decided it couldn't >>write new files. I have put a question in to the VS forum to see if I am >>asking too much from VS.

Have a look at the share with icacls.exe

https://theitbros.com/using-icacls-to-list-folder-permissions-and-manage-files/

Do you have the same username on your machines accessing this share?

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to everybody in the group

Same :)

Many thanks Adrian :-)

Googling icacls indicates it sometimes comes up with a different result to looking at permissions in File Explorer - with icacls being definitive.

I do use the same user name/password on all my kit but I hit the final
straw today when using VS on the "server" itself and it couldn't "clean"
before building as it was locked out/didn't have permission.

I decided that what I was doing was too much for Windows (or perhaps me)
so I re-installed Win 10 on the Z620 this afternoon and I'm going through
the clean up, take ownership stuff etc.

Will see how VS behaves tomorrow - watching my recording of Prince Andrew
the Musical at the moment, it seems the spares always have problems
finding suitable wives.

Thanks again!

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How does a gender neutral bog differ from a unisex bog ?
It has a non-binary number on the door.

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On 31/12/2022 in message <xn0nr9lhl64rkki00i@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:

I decided that what I was doing was too much for Windows (or perhaps me)
so I re-installed Win 10 on the Z620 this afternoon and I'm going through
the clean up, take ownership stuff etc.

Will see how VS behaves tomorrow

And the result is in - a complete disaster :-(

Despite all the directories concerned having full R/W permission for me specifically and, indeed, all users VS 2008 cannot write to the directory!
Even running it as administrator doesn't help.

I am at drastic solutions stage now. Is there a filing system that doesn't
do permissions that I could use on an external SSD? Idea would be to copy everything over, delete the originals then copy back, hopefully without
any of the old permissions. Could I use a Linux box, my Mac Mini or the
QNAP NAS to achieve something similar? The data drive has been moved from machine to machine so some of the permissions will be tosh.

Running VS 2008 on Win 8.1 works fine so it may be that reverting to 8.1
on the Z620 may be the answer but I suspect there will be lots of things
that will stop working on it.

Any thoughts appreciated, at least Freecell works on Win 10!

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All things being equal, fat people use more soap

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On 1 Jan 2023 at 12:25:37 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
wrote:

On 01/01/2023 in message <xn0nwbyxg78sdhr00l@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:

Just to add I thought I would experiment by renaming a directory and
copying the backup from the NAS.

You need administrator permission to rename the directory OK.

You need permission from Z620\jeff to rename the directory - I am Z620\jeff

This sort of thing is why I gave up on Windows for serious usage back in
2006. It's too cryptic.

Cheers - Jaimie
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It's OK. I'm an atheist catholic.

So you just feel guilty for /no readily apparent reason/.

- deKay and Gareth Halfacree, ugvm

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On 01/01/2023 in message <xn0nwbyxg78sdhr00l@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:

Just to add I thought I would experiment by renaming a directory and
copying the backup from the NAS.

You need administrator permission to rename the directory OK.

You need permission from Z620\jeff to rename the directory - I am Z620\jeff

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Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.

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