• Browsers

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 08:30:44 2022
    Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts. However, it has
    started to put up a message that no further updates will be available
    until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.

    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
    another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock puppets
    tell me to.

    I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed between
    browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of Internet speed. Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 09:35:04 2022
    Am 14.12.2022 um 08:30:44 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:

    Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
    quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
    However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
    will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.

    I can understand this, 8.1 will be EoL in 2023, small amount of users.

    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
    another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of Internet speed.
    Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?

    There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet
    connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's
    connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
    itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites
    that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and
    some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Wed Dec 14 13:11:20 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <tnc1ro$2okho$3@dont-email.me> Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 14.12.2022 um 08:30:44 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:

    Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
    quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
    However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
    will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.

    I can understand this, 8.1 will be EoL in 2023, small amount of users.

    It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get the
    user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?


    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?


    I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed between >>browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of Internet speed.
    Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?

    There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet
    connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's
    connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
    itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites
    that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and
    some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.

    OK, any suggestions then?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 14:07:56 2022

    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
    another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?




    Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do to prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?

    And on a related note, have you tried Brave on Ubuntu ?

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 15:05:32 2022
    Am 14.12.2022 um 13:11:20 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:

    It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get
    the user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?

    There are statistics on that. MS can know it because of Windows Update,
    other statistics use web servers and check the user agent.

    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    That message seems to come from the browser itself, not from the MS
    operating system.

    I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed
    between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of
    Internet speed. Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?

    There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet
    connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's
    connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
    itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites
    that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and
    some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.

    OK, any suggestions then?

    At least Pale Moon still supports Win 8.1 if you like to continue using
    it. The performance of some sites is of course worse on Pale Moon.
    Seamonkey also still support Win 8.1 IIRC.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 14:29:16 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <tnclbs$2q73f$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley wrote:



    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>>>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do to >prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?

    And on a related note, have you tried Brave on Ubuntu ?

    MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU
    competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.

    Yes, I use Brave on Ubuntu, no annoying messages there!

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    By the time you can make ends meet they move the ends

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  • From Abandoned_Trolley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 15:01:06 2022

    MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.

    Yes, I use Brave on Ubuntu, no annoying messages there!



    If Brave was a real threat, then MSFT would have bought them out years ago


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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Wed Dec 14 14:31:54 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <tncl7c$2p2bb$1@dont-email.me> Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 14.12.2022 um 13:11:20 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:

    It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get
    the user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?

    There are statistics on that. MS can know it because of Windows Update,
    other statistics use web servers and check the user agent.

    In reality this only picks up people who fall into a category that can be counted.


    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>>>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    That message seems to come from the browser itself, not from the MS
    operating system.

    That's correct.


    I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed
    between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of
    Internet speed. Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?

    There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet >>>connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's >>>connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
    itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites >>>that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and >>>some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.

    OK, any suggestions then?

    At least Pale Moon still supports Win 8.1 if you like to continue using
    it. The performance of some sites is of course worse on Pale Moon.
    Seamonkey also still support Win 8.1 IIRC.

    OK, thanks, I'll start to draw up a list :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There are 10 types of people in the world, those who do binary and those
    who don't.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 15:17:57 2022
    Am 14.12.2022 um 14:07:56 Uhr schrieb Abandoned_Trolley:

    Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do
    to prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?

    I don't think MS changed something, I think they decided that on their
    own. Win 7 is EoL, 8.1 will be EoL in some months and the amount of
    users is most likely low. Win 10 is a bit different and I can
    understand that they don't want to support and test old operating
    systems.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 16:46:03 2022
    On 14 Dec 2022 at 14:29:16 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/12/2022 in message <tnclbs$2q73f$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley wrote:



    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
    another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do to
    prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?

    And on a related note, have you tried Brave on Ubuntu ?

    MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.

    Bleh. Brave's a small company and probably prefers to spend its scarce resources on something other than a nearly-dead OS. Even simpler
    economics than bribery from MS, which is likely something the CEO (and
    former CEO of Mozilla) would gleefully share with the world if it
    happened.

    Admittedly the venture capital behind Brave is reknowned arsehole Peter
    Thiel, but I'm not seeing any direct links between that fact and not
    supporting Win8.

    Yes, I use Brave on Ubuntu, no annoying messages there!

    I've been using Firefox for years; even when it was one of the slower
    browsers (and it isn't now, as of a big set of changes in 2020) it was
    still more functional and far more privacy-focused than the other big
    names.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    To every complex problem there is a solution which
    is simple, neat and wrong.
    -- HL Mencken

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  • From Chris@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Dec 14 18:03:24 2022
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 14/12/2022 in message <tnc1ro$2okho$3@dont-email.me> Marco Moock wrote:

    Am 14.12.2022 um 08:30:44 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:

    Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
    quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
    However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
    will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.

    I can understand this, 8.1 will be EoL in 2023, small amount of users.

    It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get the
    user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?


    I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
    another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
    puppets tell me to.

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    Of course. A developer can choose to support whatever OS they want, no-one
    can stop from creating a Win95 port. However, pragmatically why would a developer continue to spend resources supporting an OS that itself is no
    longer supported.

    It's a fact of software development.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Wed Dec 14 19:19:51 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <jvucubFu2tbU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU >>competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.

    Bleh. Brave's a small company and probably prefers to spend its scarce >resources on something other than a nearly-dead OS. Even simpler
    economics than bribery from MS, which is likely something the CEO (and
    former CEO of Mozilla) would gleefully share with the world if it
    happened.

    My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is
    lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas!

    I've been using Firefox for years; even when it was one of the slower >browsers (and it isn't now, as of a big set of changes in 2020) it was
    still more functional and far more privacy-focused than the other big
    names.

    OK, I'll have a look.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Every day is a good day for chicken, unless you're a chicken.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Chris on Wed Dec 14 19:23:41 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <tnd35c$2redu$1@dont-email.me> Chris wrote:

    That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.

    So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?

    Of course. A developer can choose to support whatever OS they want, no-one >can stop from creating a Win95 port. However, pragmatically why would a >developer continue to spend resources supporting an OS that itself is no >longer supported.

    It's a fact of software development.

    Quite understandable of course I was just speculating about MSFT pressure.

    Incidentally the programs I write use the Windows API which hasn't changed since Win 98 SE. Windows may have a tarty new hat but it's the same under
    the bonnet :-)

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Have you ever noticed that all the instruments searching for intelligent
    life are pointing away from Earth?

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 14 21:06:32 2022
    On 14 Dec 2022 at 19:19:51 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/12/2022 in message <jvucubFu2tbU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU
    competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT. >>
    Bleh. Brave's a small company and probably prefers to spend its scarce
    resources on something other than a nearly-dead OS. Even simpler
    economics than bribery from MS, which is likely something the CEO (and
    former CEO of Mozilla) would gleefully share with the world if it
    happened.

    My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas!

    Do you not just leave apps running?

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    None of this will matter in 20 billion years.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Wed Dec 14 22:51:16 2022
    On 14/12/2022 in message <jvus6oF1s29U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is >>lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas!

    Do you not just leave apps running?

    Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the outside world.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Though no-one can go back and make a new start, everyone can start from
    now and make a new ending.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 00:49:38 2022
    On 14 Dec 2022 at 22:51:16 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 14/12/2022 in message <jvus6oF1s29U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is >>> lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas! >>
    Do you not just leave apps running?

    Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the outside world.

    Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without
    asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
    to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
    serruptitiously in the middle of the night.

    Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're
    always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    Remember, if something is on the news that means
    it's rare enough that you shouldn't worry about it.
    It's the things that _don't_ make the news due to
    being so common that you should worry about.
    -- Stephen Sprunk

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Sat Dec 17 08:30:31 2022
    On 17/12/2022 in message <k04i12FslajU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the >>outside world.

    Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
    to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
    serruptitiously in the middle of the night.

    Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're
    always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.

    Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!

    I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 18:19:40 2022
    On 17 Dec 2022 at 08:30:31 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 17/12/2022 in message <k04i12FslajU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the >>> outside world.

    Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without
    asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
    to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
    serruptitiously in the middle of the night.

    Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're
    always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.

    Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!

    I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.

    These things evolve onwards without you, when you stay in the same
    place.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    If you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold.
    -- blue_beetle

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Sat Dec 17 18:32:52 2022
    On 17/12/2022 in message <k06fhsF7447U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >>>asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
    to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than >>>serruptitiously in the middle of the night.

    Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're >>>always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.

    Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!

    I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.

    These things evolve onwards without you, when you stay in the same
    place.

    Perhaps onwards but not necessarily upwards! Leaving the browser running
    when visiting a web page is asking for trouble and closing it but leaving
    an empty page open is more hassle than dismissing the message that pops up.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Remember, the Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 17 18:54:04 2022
    On 17 Dec 2022 at 18:32:52 GMT, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    On 17/12/2022 in message <k06fhsF7447U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >>>> asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due >>>> to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
    serruptitiously in the middle of the night.

    Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're >>>> always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.

    Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!

    I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.

    These things evolve onwards without you, when you stay in the same
    place.

    Perhaps onwards but not necessarily upwards! Leaving the browser running
    when visiting a web page is asking for trouble and closing it but leaving
    an empty page open is more hassle than dismissing the message that pops up.

    Oh, you're using an OS that closes the app when you close the window.
    Kinda forgot that happened.

    Over the last decade I've tend to having over 200 tabs open most of the
    time, which Firefox handles with aplomb (and doesn't load unless I look
    at them). I think I have some good anecdotal evidence that they're not a problem.

    Cheers - Jaimie
    --
    boy, n.
    1. Noise with dirt on it.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Sat Dec 17 19:21:57 2022
    On 17/12/2022 in message <k06hicF7e5eU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    Perhaps onwards but not necessarily upwards! Leaving the browser running >>when visiting a web page is asking for trouble and closing it but leaving >>an empty page open is more hassle than dismissing the message that pops
    up.

    Oh, you're using an OS that closes the app when you close the window.
    Kinda forgot that happened.

    Over the last decade I've tend to having over 200 tabs open most of the
    time, which Firefox handles with aplomb (and doesn't load unless I look
    at them). I think I have some good anecdotal evidence that they're not a >problem.

    Wow, stuff my old boots as they say!

    I don't think I know of 200 websites, 20 would be a busy browsing time for
    me.

    I need to have a break from this for tonight. I am running into permission issues on Z620 - Visual Studio needs to execute the files it has built
    which are in a read/write but no execute directory now. I'll have another
    look tomorrow.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 28 13:28:04 2023
    I have been using Brave for ages now but it is playing up. I was trying to update my car valuation on webuyanycar.com and Brave just sits there and
    does nothing. Edge goes straight there.

    Anybody here use Brave and seen problems like this?

    What's the current recommended browser for Win 10?

    Many thanks.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From PeterC@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Oct 28 18:07:46 2023
    On 28 Oct 2023 13:28:04 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have been using Brave for ages now but it is playing up. I was trying to update my car valuation on webuyanycar.com and Brave just sits there and
    does nothing. Edge goes straight there.

    Anybody here use Brave and seen problems like this?

    What's the current recommended browser for Win 10?

    Many thanks.

    iF YOU WANT TO STAY WITH CHROME-TYPES, i'VE FOUND sLIMJET TO BE FAST AND
    ALSO LIGHTER ON ram THAN THE OTHERS.
    (Sorry - caps lock left on, CBA to eo it again). https://win.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=slimjet
    --
    Peter.
    The gods will stay away
    whilst religions hold sway

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to PeterC on Sat Oct 28 17:38:13 2023
    On 28/10/2023 in message <z70wq447rnau$.4elgjj022m3s$.dlg@40tude.net>
    PeterC wrote:

    On 28 Oct 2023 13:28:04 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I have been using Brave for ages now but it is playing up. I was trying to >>update my car valuation on webuyanycar.com and Brave just sits there and >>does nothing. Edge goes straight there.

    Anybody here use Brave and seen problems like this?

    What's the current recommended browser for Win 10?

    Many thanks.

    iF YOU WANT TO STAY WITH CHROME-TYPES, i'VE FOUND sLIMJET TO BE FAST AND
    ALSO LIGHTER ON ram THAN THE OTHERS.
    (Sorry - caps lock left on, CBA to eo it again).

    BTDTGTTS!

    https://win.softpedia.com/dyn-search.php?search_term=slimjet

    Thanks, installed and will try :-)

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
    expect to sit.

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