Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of Internet speed.
Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?
Am 14.12.2022 um 08:30:44 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:
Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.
I can understand this, 8.1 will be EoL in 2023, small amount of users.
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed between >>browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of Internet speed.
Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?
There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet
connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's
connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites
that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and
some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get
the user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed
between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of
Internet speed. Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?
There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet
connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's
connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites
that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and
some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.
OK, any suggestions then?
Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do to >prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>>>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
And on a related note, have you tried Brave on Ubuntu ?
MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.
Yes, I use Brave on Ubuntu, no annoying messages there!
Am 14.12.2022 um 13:11:20 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:
It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get
the user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?
There are statistics on that. MS can know it because of Windows Update,
other statistics use web servers and check the user agent.
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on >>>>another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
That message seems to come from the browser itself, not from the MS
operating system.
I read in here once that there is quite a difference in speed
between browsers and it is no longer entirely a function of
Internet speed. Any suggestions for a Brave replacement please?
There are many factors. For downloading/uploading, your internet >>>connection (and the peerings of your provider and the server's >>>connection) are relevant. For rendering the content, the hardware
itself and your browser is a relevant factor. There are also websites >>>that are optimized for one browser (IE in the past, Chrome today) and >>>some of them work very bad on other browsers like Pale Moon.
OK, any suggestions then?
At least Pale Moon still supports Win 8.1 if you like to continue using
it. The performance of some sites is of course worse on Pale Moon.
Seamonkey also still support Win 8.1 IIRC.
Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do
to prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?
On 14/12/2022 in message <tnclbs$2q73f$1@dont-email.me> Abandoned_Trolley wrote:
Why not turn the question around, and ask yourself what MSFT could do to
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
prevent the Brave developers continuing their support for 8.1 ?
And on a related note, have you tried Brave on Ubuntu ?
MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.
Yes, I use Brave on Ubuntu, no annoying messages there!
On 14/12/2022 in message <tnc1ro$2okho$3@dont-email.me> Marco Moock wrote:
Am 14.12.2022 um 08:30:44 Uhr schrieb Jeff Gaines:
Apologies if I have asked this before. I have been using Brave for
quite a while and like its built in ability to block adverts.
However, it has started to put up a message that no further updates
will be available until I "upgrade" from Win 8.1 to Win 10.
I can understand this, 8.1 will be EoL in 2023, small amount of users.
It is not acceptable to do it every time I run it. Where do you get the
user count for Win 8.1, I doubt anybody knows the number?
I may well do that, I have put Win 10 on one machine, and Ubuntu on
another, but I will decide when I am ready, not when MSFT sock
puppets tell me to.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EU >>competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT.
Bleh. Brave's a small company and probably prefers to spend its scarce >resources on something other than a nearly-dead OS. Even simpler
economics than bribery from MS, which is likely something the CEO (and
former CEO of Mozilla) would gleefully share with the world if it
happened.
I've been using Firefox for years; even when it was one of the slower >browsers (and it isn't now, as of a big set of changes in 2020) it was
still more functional and far more privacy-focused than the other big
names.
That is a decision from the Brave developers, not MS.
So definitely not driven by MSFT, do you have a source for that?
Of course. A developer can choose to support whatever OS they want, no-one >can stop from creating a Win95 port. However, pragmatically why would a >developer continue to spend resources supporting an OS that itself is no >longer supported.
It's a fact of software development.
On 14/12/2022 in message <jvucubFu2tbU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
MSFT applies pressure in many ways openly and not so openly. The EUBleh. Brave's a small company and probably prefers to spend its scarce
competition department seem to be the only people willing to tackle MSFT. >>
resources on something other than a nearly-dead OS. Even simpler
economics than bribery from MS, which is likely something the CEO (and
former CEO of Mozilla) would gleefully share with the world if it
happened.
My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas!
My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is >>lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas!
Do you not just leave apps running?
On 14/12/2022 in message <jvus6oF1s29U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
My complaint was the message pops up every time I fire up Brave, which is >>> lots at the moment because I want some coconut fudge flake for Christmas! >>Do you not just leave apps running?
Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the outside world.
Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the >>outside world.
Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
serruptitiously in the middle of the night.
Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're
always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.
On 17/12/2022 in message <k04i12FslajU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
Everything I use regularly EXCEPT a browser because it is connected to the >>> outside world.
Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without
asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
serruptitiously in the middle of the night.
Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're
always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.
Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!
I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.
Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >>>asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due
to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than >>>serruptitiously in the middle of the night.
Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're >>>always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.
Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!
I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.
These things evolve onwards without you, when you stay in the same
place.
On 17/12/2022 in message <k06fhsF7447U1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
Many, many apps will call out to their masters on the Internet without >>>> asking, not just browsers. And browsers aren't any more penetrable due >>>> to that; you'll get hacked on visiting a web page rather than
serruptitiously in the middle of the night.
Leave apps running; sleep your machines. Best of both worlds - they're >>>> always ready but they're not active when you're not using them.
Any apps that call home have their call home/updaters cut off!
I'm happy with the way I do things, it has worked for over 30 years now.
These things evolve onwards without you, when you stay in the same
place.
Perhaps onwards but not necessarily upwards! Leaving the browser running
when visiting a web page is asking for trouble and closing it but leaving
an empty page open is more hassle than dismissing the message that pops up.
Perhaps onwards but not necessarily upwards! Leaving the browser running >>when visiting a web page is asking for trouble and closing it but leaving >>an empty page open is more hassle than dismissing the message that pops
up.
Oh, you're using an OS that closes the app when you close the window.
Kinda forgot that happened.
Over the last decade I've tend to having over 200 tabs open most of the
time, which Firefox handles with aplomb (and doesn't load unless I look
at them). I think I have some good anecdotal evidence that they're not a >problem.
I have been using Brave for ages now but it is playing up. I was trying to update my car valuation on webuyanycar.com and Brave just sits there and
does nothing. Edge goes straight there.
Anybody here use Brave and seen problems like this?
What's the current recommended browser for Win 10?
Many thanks.
On 28 Oct 2023 13:28:04 GMT, Jeff Gaines wrote:
I have been using Brave for ages now but it is playing up. I was trying to >>update my car valuation on webuyanycar.com and Brave just sits there and >>does nothing. Edge goes straight there.
Anybody here use Brave and seen problems like this?
What's the current recommended browser for Win 10?
Many thanks.
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