• Any experiences of 3's Data SIMs for Tablets?

    From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 12 02:46:10 2022
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Sat Nov 12 12:46:23 2022
    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area! https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker
    and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find
    them for you.

    2. Be prepared to put up an external 4g aerial is signal is marginal

    3. You can buy PAYG monthly sims so you can do some speed testing
    assuming you have an out of contract unlocked dongle or 4g router. I did
    this with Voda, 3, EE and o2 for my location. recorded results in a
    excel spreadsheet by using www.speedtest.net or www.fast.com at several
    points of the day.

    Also there are websites out there that will test for packet loss.
    (speedtest and fast can do ping and jitter as well as UL and DL speed.

    As it happens I have a Pi here that runs automated speedtest every 30
    mines on my fibre connection.

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to i.love.spam@spam.com on Sat Nov 12 06:50:26 2022
    On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:46:23 +0000, SH <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area! >https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker
    and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find
    them for you.

    2. Be prepared to put up an external 4g aerial is signal is marginal

    3. You can buy PAYG monthly sims so you can do some speed testing
    assuming you have an out of contract unlocked dongle or 4g router. I did
    this with Voda, 3, EE and o2 for my location. recorded results in a
    excel spreadsheet by using www.speedtest.net or www.fast.com at several >points of the day.

    Also there are websites out there that will test for packet loss.
    (speedtest and fast can do ping and jitter as well as UL and DL speed.

    As it happens I have a Pi here that runs automated speedtest every 30
    mines on my fibre connection.

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....


    Big help, thanks.
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    Mike

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Sat Nov 12 18:07:57 2022
    On 12/11/2022 14:50, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 12:46:23 +0000, SH <i.love.spam@spam.com> wrote:

    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area!
    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker
    and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find
    them for you.

    2. Be prepared to put up an external 4g aerial is signal is marginal

    3. You can buy PAYG monthly sims so you can do some speed testing
    assuming you have an out of contract unlocked dongle or 4g router. I did
    this with Voda, 3, EE and o2 for my location. recorded results in a
    excel spreadsheet by using www.speedtest.net or www.fast.com at several
    points of the day.

    Also there are websites out there that will test for packet loss.
    (speedtest and fast can do ping and jitter as well as UL and DL speed.

    As it happens I have a Pi here that runs automated speedtest every 30
    mines on my fibre connection.

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....


    Big help, thanks.


    This also helps for finding cheap PAYG SIMS:

    https://payg.pythonanywhere.com/ and it tells you what netywork it
    piggybacks onto.

    Also some routers do not have all the APNs (Access point names) for the
    UK mobile networks, so be prepared to find the APM for your network of choice/test and input into the Router. :-)

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 13 13:28:04 2022
    In article <tko4j0$11n3$1@gioia.aioe.org>, SH wrote...

    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area! https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker
    and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find
    them for you.

    2. Be prepared to put up an external 4g aerial is signal is marginal

    3. You can buy PAYG monthly sims so you can do some speed testing
    assuming you have an out of contract unlocked dongle or 4g router. I did
    this with Voda, 3, EE and o2 for my location. recorded results in a
    excel spreadsheet by using www.speedtest.net or www.fast.com at several points of the day.

    Also there are websites out there that will test for packet loss.
    (speedtest and fast can do ping and jitter as well as UL and DL speed.

    As it happens I have a Pi here that runs automated speedtest every 30
    mines on my fibre connection.

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....

    "Mobile Virtual Network Operators" (MVNOs) can be very cheap indeed, though they rarely (ever?) deliver the top speeds available from their "parent" network.

    These sites are very helpful:
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mobiles/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_mobile_virtual_network_ope rators
    = https://bit.ly/3g0h7Tk

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    Phil, London

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid on Mon Nov 14 00:29:45 2022
    On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 13:28:04 -0000, Philip Herlihy <PhillipHerlihy@SlashDevNull.invalid> wrote:

    In article <tko4j0$11n3$1@gioia.aioe.org>, SH wrote...

    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area!
    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker
    and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find
    them for you.

    2. Be prepared to put up an external 4g aerial is signal is marginal

    3. You can buy PAYG monthly sims so you can do some speed testing
    assuming you have an out of contract unlocked dongle or 4g router. I did
    this with Voda, 3, EE and o2 for my location. recorded results in a
    excel spreadsheet by using www.speedtest.net or www.fast.com at several
    points of the day.

    Also there are websites out there that will test for packet loss.
    (speedtest and fast can do ping and jitter as well as UL and DL speed.

    As it happens I have a Pi here that runs automated speedtest every 30
    mines on my fibre connection.

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....

    "Mobile Virtual Network Operators" (MVNOs) can be very cheap indeed, though >they rarely (ever?) deliver the top speeds available from their "parent" >network.

    These sites are very helpful:
    https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/mobiles/ >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Kingdom_mobile_virtual_network_ope
    rators
    = https://bit.ly/3g0h7Tk

    Thanks for the additional info Philip.
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    Mike

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Mike Halmarack on Mon Nov 14 11:06:35 2022
    Mike Halmarack wrote:

    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    buy a 30 day SIM and test it in the places that are important to you?

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Nov 14 11:32:10 2022
    On 14/11/2022 11:19, Andy Burns wrote:
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    SH wrote...

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....

    "Mobile Virtual Network Operators" (MVNOs) can be very cheap indeed,
    though
    they rarely (ever?) deliver the top speeds available from their "parent"
    network.

    Not much throttling with virgin SIM only when I got my pixel5a,
    unfortunately I don't often get a sniff of 5G signal

    <https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8267614908>


    I'll raise you this: :-D

    https://www.speedtest.net/result/13938755029

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Mon Nov 14 11:19:34 2022
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    SH wrote...

    Smarty coincidentally piggy backs on 3 and they are doing a 5g SIM and
    50GB data month for a tenner a month....

    "Mobile Virtual Network Operators" (MVNOs) can be very cheap indeed, though they rarely (ever?) deliver the top speeds available from their "parent" network.

    Not much throttling with virgin SIM only when I got my pixel5a, unfortunately I don't often get a sniff of 5G signal

    <https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8267614908>

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  • From Mike Halmarack@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 14 12:32:22 2022
    On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:06:35 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
    wrote:

    Mike Halmarack wrote:

    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    buy a 30 day SIM and test it in the places that are important to you?

    Sounds like a good idea to me.
    --

    Mike

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Nov 14 14:37:19 2022
    On 14/11/2022 14:27, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    <https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8267614908>

    I'll raise you this:   :-D
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/13938755029

    But that's home fibre, rather than a mobile phone, isn't it?


    Drat! I'm BUSTED! :-)

    Our home fibre is supplied by Vodafone which just also happens to be a
    mobile network!...

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 14 14:27:51 2022
    SH wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    <https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/8267614908>

    I'll raise you this:   :-D
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/13938755029

    But that's home fibre, rather than a mobile phone, isn't it?

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 16 21:16:12 2022
    On 12/11/2022 12:46, SH wrote:
    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area! https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find them for you.

    <snip>

    Where I live all the networks say there is good coverage indoors and out.

    There's some consistency there. They are all lying. I've tried them all.

    I occasionally get a signal indoors. If I stand still outside I can
    sometimes make a call. The signal is so bad that smart electricity
    meters don't work.

    Ofcom's data seems to be better than the network's own data - it only
    thinks one of them will work. We've been forced to get phones that allow
    wifi calling.

    Andy

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Vir Campestris on Thu Nov 17 10:08:21 2022
    On 16/11/2022 21:16, Vir Campestris wrote:
    On 12/11/2022 12:46, SH wrote:
    On 12/11/2022 10:46, Mike Halmarack wrote:
    Hoping to get some pointers before commiting to the 24 month contract

    1. Check the coverage area!
    https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/advice/ofcom-checker and each mobile netwrok has a coverage map, google search should find them for you.

    <snip>

    Where I live all the networks say there is good coverage indoors and out.

    There's some consistency there. They are all lying. I've tried them all.

    I occasionally get a signal indoors. If I stand still outside I can
    sometimes make a call. The signal is so bad that smart electricity
    meters don't work.

    Ofcom's data seems to be better than the network's own data - it only
    thinks one of them will work. We've been forced to get phones that allow
    wifi calling.

    Andy


    Thats why I mentioned external 4g antennas.....

    Theres a trange from Solwise and they can be mounted on a TV aerial pole provided your 4g router has a pair of sockets to permit the external
    antenna to be connected.

    See https://www.solwise.co.uk/3g-antenna-outdoor.htm


    Some of them are directional so if you point one at a mast KNOWN to
    provide the network you want, that has more gain than an omnidirectional
    one.

    www.mastdata.co.uk will tell you where the masts are and which networks
    is using that mast. Mastdata willa lso indicate what bands is in use at
    that mast so some masts for the same network offer 5g or higher data
    rate but some other mastseither have a slower data rate or don't support 5g.

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