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    From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 17 23:33:53 2022
    Received a new modem/router from PLUSNET - hub 2 - to replace the hub 1
    that I have been using for a few years.

    All seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues:

    1. I can no longer access my Micro Server from my desktop PC
    2. the router reports my desktop PC twice in its list of devices
    connected to my home network.



    My topology (hasn't changed for a few years and worked fine until the
    swap): A photo is here https://ibb.co/NN0tC8S

    - The house is fully wired with a router, 3 mesh units providing wifi,
    and an unmanaged switch connected to all the wall sockes around the house.
    - The above router is seating on top on my desktop PC and connected to
    it directly using one of the LAN sockets.
    - The router acts as the only DHCP server on the network (turned of on
    the mesh).
    - The router has WiFi turned OFF
    - 3 mesh devices are spread around the house. One of them connected
    directly to the router as it seats next to it.
    - An unmanaged switch connected to the router and then to several sockets/devices around the house (desktops, TVs, etc).
    - 2 further mesh units around the house connected to the switch using a
    cable
    - Mesh is in BRIDGE mode
    - The microserver is used for daily file backup of several PCs at home
    and as a media server for the TVs

    Comments:

    - all I did when swapping the routers was to turn the wifi off on it
    (and set up the network nae/password etc).
    - The microserver appears to be on the network according to the home
    network map of the router
    - The media server (Serviio) running on it can still be accessed/used
    from the TVs
    - I did notice that in the home network's list of connected devices as
    reported by the router (in the settings) my desktop PC appears twice...
    with two different IP addresses.

    I had a similar issue in the past with connecting to the media server
    (search for topic "Laptop cannot see PC on the (home) network" here) and
    was advised to use the "net use x: \\microservergen8\d /savecred /persistent:yes" once which solved the problem. It now reports "System
    error 53 has occurred. The network path was not found." when I try to do
    it again.
    - All the settings of the new hub/router seem to be identical to those
    of the old one.


    Any thoughts anyone?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Sat Sep 17 23:35:59 2022
    On 17/09/2022 23:33, JoeJoe wrote:
    Received a new modem/router from PLUSNET - hub 2 - to replace the hub 1
    that I have been using for a few years.

    All seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues:

    1. I can no longer access my Micro Server from my desktop PC
    2. the router reports my desktop PC twice in its list of devices
    connected to my home network.



    My topology (hasn't changed for a few years and worked fine until the
    swap): A photo is here https://ibb.co/NN0tC8S

    - The house is fully wired with a router, 3 mesh units providing wifi,
    and an unmanaged switch connected to all the wall sockes around the house.
    - The above router is seating on top on my desktop PC and connected to
    it directly using one of the LAN sockets.
    - The router acts as the only DHCP server on the network (turned of on
    the mesh).
    - The router has WiFi turned OFF
    - 3 mesh devices are spread around the house. One of them connected
    directly to the router as it seats next to it.
    - An unmanaged switch connected to the router and then to several sockets/devices around the house (desktops, TVs, etc).
    - 2 further mesh units around the house connected to the switch using a
    cable
    - Mesh is in BRIDGE mode
    - The microserver is used for daily file backup of several PCs at home
    and as a media server for the TVs

    Comments:

    - all I did when swapping the routers was to turn the wifi off on it
    (and set up the network nae/password etc).
    - The microserver appears to be on the network according to the home
    network map of the router
    - The media server (Serviio) running on it can still be accessed/used
    from the TVs
    - I did notice that in the home network's list of connected devices as reported by the router (in the settings) my desktop PC appears twice...
    with two different IP addresses.

     I had a similar issue in the past with connecting to the media server (search for topic "Laptop cannot see PC on the (home) network" here) and
    was advised to use the "net use x: \\microservergen8\d /savecred /persistent:yes" once which solved the problem. It now reports "System
    error 53 has occurred. The network path was not found." when I try to do
    it again.
    - All the settings of the new hub/router seem to be identical to those
    of the old one.


    Any thoughts anyone?

    PS: I also cannot do a Remote Desktop Connection from my desktop now
    (used to be able to until the swap)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Sun Sep 18 03:54:32 2022
    On 2022-09-17, JoeJoe <no@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/09/2022 23:33, JoeJoe wrote:
    Received a new modem/router from PLUSNET - hub 2 - to replace the hub 1
    that I have been using for a few years.

    All seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues:

    1. I can no longer access my Micro Server from my desktop PC
    2. the router reports my desktop PC twice in its list of devices
    connected to my home network.



    My topology (hasn't changed for a few years and worked fine until the
    swap): A photo is here https://ibb.co/NN0tC8S

    - The house is fully wired with a router, 3 mesh units providing wifi,
    and an unmanaged switch connected to all the wall sockes around the house. >> - The above router is seating on top on my desktop PC and connected to
    it directly using one of the LAN sockets.
    - The router acts as the only DHCP server on the network (turned of on
    the mesh).
    - The router has WiFi turned OFF
    - 3 mesh devices are spread around the house. One of them connected
    directly to the router as it seats next to it.
    - An unmanaged switch connected to the router and then to several
    sockets/devices around the house (desktops, TVs, etc).
    - 2 further mesh units around the house connected to the switch using a
    cable
    - Mesh is in BRIDGE mode
    - The microserver is used for daily file backup of several PCs at home
    and as a media server for the TVs

    Comments:

    - all I did when swapping the routers was to turn the wifi off on it
    (and set up the network nae/password etc).
    - The microserver appears to be on the network according to the home
    network map of the router
    - The media server (Serviio) running on it can still be accessed/used
    from the TVs
    - I did notice that in the home network's list of connected devices as
    reported by the router (in the settings) my desktop PC appears twice...
    with two different IP addresses.

     I had a similar issue in the past with connecting to the media server
    (search for topic "Laptop cannot see PC on the (home) network" here) and
    was advised to use the "net use x: \\microservergen8\d /savecred
    /persistent:yes" once which solved the problem. It now reports "System
    error 53 has occurred. The network path was not found." when I try to do
    it again.
    - All the settings of the new hub/router seem to be identical to those
    of the old one.


    Any thoughts anyone?

    PS: I also cannot do a Remote Desktop Connection from my desktop now
    (used to be able to until the swap)

    What IPs is the DHCP giving out, what IP is on your server and the desktop.
    On the same sub-net?

    Try putting some IP numbers on your diagram. Might help. That is my
    suggestion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Sun Sep 18 09:57:07 2022
    On 18/09/2022 09:54, JoeJoe wrote:
    On 18/09/2022 04:54, Gordon wrote:
    On 2022-09-17, JoeJoe <no@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/09/2022 23:33, JoeJoe wrote:
    Received a new modem/router from PLUSNET - hub 2 - to replace the hub 1 >>>> that I have been using for a few years.

    All seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues:

    1. I can no longer access my Micro Server from my desktop PC
    2. the router reports my desktop PC twice in its list of devices
    connected to my home network.



    My topology (hasn't changed for a few years and worked fine until the
    swap): A photo is here https://ibb.co/NN0tC8S

    - The house is fully wired with a router, 3 mesh units providing wifi, >>>> and an unmanaged switch connected to all the wall sockes around the
    house.
    - The above router is seating on top on my desktop PC and connected to >>>> it directly using one of the LAN sockets.
    - The router acts as the only DHCP server on the network (turned of on >>>> the mesh).
    - The router has WiFi turned OFF
    - 3 mesh devices are spread around the house. One of them connected
    directly to the router as it seats next to it.
    - An unmanaged switch connected to the router and then to several
    sockets/devices around the house (desktops, TVs, etc).
    - 2 further mesh units around the house connected to the switch using a >>>> cable
    - Mesh is in BRIDGE mode
    - The microserver is used for daily file backup of several PCs at home >>>> and as a media server for the TVs

    Comments:

    - all I did when swapping the routers was to turn the wifi off on it
    (and set up the network nae/password etc).
    - The microserver appears to be on the network according to the home
    network map of the router
    - The media server (Serviio) running on it can still be accessed/used
    from the TVs
    - I did notice that in the home network's list of connected devices as >>>> reported by the router (in the settings) my desktop PC appears twice... >>>> with two different IP addresses.

       I had a similar issue in the past with connecting to the media
    server
    (search for topic "Laptop cannot see PC on the (home) network" here)
    and
    was advised to use the "net use x: \\microservergen8\d /savecred
    /persistent:yes" once which solved the problem. It now reports "System >>>> error 53 has occurred. The network path was not found." when I try
    to do
    it again.
    - All the settings of the new hub/router seem to be identical to those >>>> of the old one.


    Any thoughts anyone?

    PS: I also cannot do a Remote Desktop Connection from my desktop now
    (used to be able to until the swap)

    What IPs is the DHCP giving out, what IP is on your server and the
    desktop.
    On the same sub-net?

    Try putting some IP numbers on your diagram. Might help. That is my
    suggestion.

    The DHCP range is 192.168.1.64 -> 192.168.1.253 (see here: https://ibb.co/gDy8VdF)   This is the same range that was used with the
    old hub (default)


    The topology with IP addresses is here:  https://ibb.co/0BsXD97


    1. How come unit1 of the mesh that is connected directly to the router
    was allocated an IP address outside the range?

    2. PC1 appears in the router map as connected to both (via) port1 (wifi
    via the mesh) and port 2 (wired directly).  I assume that this is
    because it had at some stage the wifi adapter enabled?  I disabled it to
    see if the connection via the mesh will disappear, but it did not.
    Should this happen only after I restart the router).  It is a problem? I have had it enabled for years without a problem, but never noticed that
    it was allocated two IP address (didn't check...).



    Oops. In the diagram that I attached above, the IP address of PC1 via
    port1 should have been 192.168.1.67, not 65 at the end.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to Gordon on Sun Sep 18 09:54:39 2022
    On 18/09/2022 04:54, Gordon wrote:
    On 2022-09-17, JoeJoe <no@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/09/2022 23:33, JoeJoe wrote:
    Received a new modem/router from PLUSNET - hub 2 - to replace the hub 1
    that I have been using for a few years.

    All seems to work fine apart from a couple of issues:

    1. I can no longer access my Micro Server from my desktop PC
    2. the router reports my desktop PC twice in its list of devices
    connected to my home network.



    My topology (hasn't changed for a few years and worked fine until the
    swap): A photo is here https://ibb.co/NN0tC8S

    - The house is fully wired with a router, 3 mesh units providing wifi,
    and an unmanaged switch connected to all the wall sockes around the house. >>> - The above router is seating on top on my desktop PC and connected to
    it directly using one of the LAN sockets.
    - The router acts as the only DHCP server on the network (turned of on
    the mesh).
    - The router has WiFi turned OFF
    - 3 mesh devices are spread around the house. One of them connected
    directly to the router as it seats next to it.
    - An unmanaged switch connected to the router and then to several
    sockets/devices around the house (desktops, TVs, etc).
    - 2 further mesh units around the house connected to the switch using a
    cable
    - Mesh is in BRIDGE mode
    - The microserver is used for daily file backup of several PCs at home
    and as a media server for the TVs

    Comments:

    - all I did when swapping the routers was to turn the wifi off on it
    (and set up the network nae/password etc).
    - The microserver appears to be on the network according to the home
    network map of the router
    - The media server (Serviio) running on it can still be accessed/used
    from the TVs
    - I did notice that in the home network's list of connected devices as
    reported by the router (in the settings) my desktop PC appears twice...
    with two different IP addresses.

     I had a similar issue in the past with connecting to the media server >>> (search for topic "Laptop cannot see PC on the (home) network" here) and >>> was advised to use the "net use x: \\microservergen8\d /savecred
    /persistent:yes" once which solved the problem. It now reports "System
    error 53 has occurred. The network path was not found." when I try to do >>> it again.
    - All the settings of the new hub/router seem to be identical to those
    of the old one.


    Any thoughts anyone?

    PS: I also cannot do a Remote Desktop Connection from my desktop now
    (used to be able to until the swap)

    What IPs is the DHCP giving out, what IP is on your server and the desktop. On the same sub-net?

    Try putting some IP numbers on your diagram. Might help. That is my suggestion.

    The DHCP range is 192.168.1.64 -> 192.168.1.253 (see here: https://ibb.co/gDy8VdF) This is the same range that was used with the
    old hub (default)


    The topology with IP addresses is here: https://ibb.co/0BsXD97


    1. How come unit1 of the mesh that is connected directly to the router
    was allocated an IP address outside the range?

    2. PC1 appears in the router map as connected to both (via) port1 (wifi
    via the mesh) and port 2 (wired directly). I assume that this is
    because it had at some stage the wifi adapter enabled? I disabled it to
    see if the connection via the mesh will disappear, but it did not.
    Should this happen only after I restart the router). It is a problem?
    I have had it enabled for years without a problem, but never noticed
    that it was allocated two IP address (didn't check...).

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)