• Bl**dy Microsoft...

    From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 15 00:53:12 2022
    Wife's desktop PC running Windows 10. Fully updated. Used for office,
    Teams and browsing.


    A week ago it developed a very strange behaviour that I have never seen
    before:

    It "lost" control of a vertical strip on the screen - approx. 20% of the
    screen on the right hand side. It stays white, and Windows completely
    ignores it - as if it is not part of the screen anymore: windows do not
    expand or can be dragged to it etc.

    When trying to drag a window into that area, the part of the window
    being dragged that is over that space turns blurry.

    The space “missing” seems to match that of the Action Center
    (Notification window that opens when you click on the icon at the right
    most on the bar at the bottom). However, when I open the Action Center
    (click right most icon at the bottom) it opens, but only to the left of
    that “dead space”.

    Tried all the usual stuff - restarting, checked all the settings that I
    could think of etc, but nothing.

    When looking at the Task Manager I noticed 7 instances (???) of
    Microsoft Edge there. Wife uses Chrome for browsing but is forced to use
    Edge when she virtually logs into her account at work. The 7 instances
    where there after a restart...

    I started to kill them one by one, and after killing a few the screen
    suddenly returned to normal... Very strange indeed.

    Checked the Startup tab in msconfig and Edge is not there. Yet it does
    seem to start automatically with the machine (not on the screen, but in
    the background).

    Problem is that after she uses the machine for a while (not sure exactly
    what she does) the problem returns. The "fix" still works, but only temporarily.

    It is clearly software-related, but I cannot pinpoint what causes it.
    She does need to have Edge installed on the machine.

    Any thoughts?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Thu Sep 15 11:15:23 2022
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Any thoughts?

    faulty video hardware? presume it's using onboard graphics? try adding an el-cheapo PCIe card?

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  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Sep 15 12:34:47 2022
    On 15/09/2022 11:15, Andy Burns wrote:
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Any thoughts?

    faulty video hardware?  presume it's using onboard graphics? try adding
    an el-cheapo PCIe card?


    Read again...


    Everything works fine when I kill all processes associated with
    Microsoft Edge.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Thu Sep 15 13:05:27 2022
    On 15/09/2022 12:34, JoeJoe wrote:
    On 15/09/2022 11:15, Andy Burns wrote:
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Any thoughts?

    faulty video hardware?  presume it's using onboard graphics? try
    adding an el-cheapo PCIe card?


    Read again...


    Everything works fine when I kill all processes associated with
    Microsoft Edge.


    Try turning off "use hardware acceleration" in Edge.

    There are 100s of millions of people, possibly several billion, using
    windows and Edge without any problems. I had Edge running earlier
    today for a few minutes, and Task Manager shows 7 Edge processes still
    running, all with 0% CPU, but using a small amount of memory. No
    problems at all. So, the fact you found 7 processes running is nothing special, although it's interesting that stopping those solved the problem.

    You may have a hardware issue, but it's worth uninstalling and
    reinstalling the graphics drivers, if you haven't tried that yet.

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  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Sep 15 15:03:02 2022
    On 15/09/2022 14:42, Andy Burns wrote:
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Read again...
    Everything works fine when I kill all processes associated with
    Microsoft Edge.

    sorry, it was literally TL;DR


    No worries

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  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 15 15:13:02 2022
    On 15/09/2022 13:05, GB wrote:
    On 15/09/2022 12:34, JoeJoe wrote:
    On 15/09/2022 11:15, Andy Burns wrote:
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Any thoughts?

    faulty video hardware?  presume it's using onboard graphics? try
    adding an el-cheapo PCIe card?


    Read again...


    Everything works fine when I kill all processes associated with
    Microsoft Edge.


    Try turning off "use hardware acceleration" in Edge.

    There are 100s of millions of people, possibly several billion, using
    windows and Edge without any problems.   I had Edge running earlier
    today for a few minutes, and Task Manager shows 7 Edge processes still running, all with 0% CPU, but using a small amount of memory. No
    problems at all.  So, the fact you found 7 processes running is nothing special, although it's interesting that stopping those solved the problem.

    You may have a hardware issue, but it's worth uninstalling and
    reinstalling the graphics drivers, if you haven't tried that yet.

    Thanks.

    Took your advice and disabled hardware acceleration in Edge, and noticed
    that it also gives the option to disable starting a process(s) at the
    machine startup that will speed up starting Edge. Disabled that option
    too, restarted the machine, and so far the problem is not there.

    Fingers crossed.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Thu Sep 15 14:42:22 2022
    JoeJoe wrote:

    Read again...
    Everything works fine when I kill all processes associated with Microsoft Edge.

    sorry, it was literally TL;DR

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  • From JoeJoe@21:1/5 to JoeJoe on Tue Sep 27 14:03:38 2022
    On 15/09/2022 00:53, JoeJoe wrote:
    Wife's desktop PC running Windows 10. Fully  updated. Used for office,
    Teams and browsing.


    A week ago it developed a very strange behaviour that I have never seen before:

    It "lost" control of a vertical strip on the screen - approx. 20% of the screen on the right hand side. It stays white, and Windows completely
    ignores it - as if it is not part of the screen anymore: windows do not expand or can be dragged to it etc.

    When trying to drag a window into that area, the part of the window
    being dragged that is over that space turns blurry.

    The space “missing” seems to match that of the Action Center (Notification window that opens when you click on the icon at the right
    most on the bar at the bottom). However, when I open the Action Center
    (click right most icon at the bottom) it opens, but only to the left of
    that “dead space”.

    Tried all the usual stuff - restarting, checked all the settings that I
    could think of etc, but nothing.

    When looking at the Task Manager I noticed 7 instances (???) of
    Microsoft Edge there. Wife uses Chrome for browsing but is forced to use
    Edge when she virtually logs into her account at work. The 7 instances
    where there after a restart...

    I started to kill them one by one, and after killing a few the screen suddenly returned to normal...  Very strange indeed.

    Checked the Startup tab in msconfig and Edge is not there. Yet it does
    seem to start automatically with the machine (not on the screen, but in
    the background).

    Problem is that after she uses the machine for a while (not sure exactly
    what she does) the problem returns. The "fix" still works, but only temporarily.

    It is clearly software-related, but I cannot pinpoint what causes it.
    She does need to have Edge installed on the machine.

    Any thoughts?

    Found the source of the problem (by accident)...

    Windows Edge uses a side bar, exactly in the area that I had the issue
    with. It also reserves it when not in use. Stupid, I know.

    Anyway, to remove it (temporarily or permanently): https://www.thewindowsclub.com/how-to-disable-edge-bar-in-windows

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