Just found an Ineo Aluminium Rugged Enclosure for 2.5" drives, along with
some unused SSDs.
Model T2580/C2580c.

I stuck a Crucial MX300 in and started using it.

The enclosure is (allegedly) USB 3.0/3.1 Gen 2 and has a USB C connector.

Testing so far on this Dell Latitude 7280 shows that it is not recognised
on the USB C port, but is recognised on the USB 3 port with a converter to
USB C interface.

Speed is showing at around 100 MB/sec copying from internal SSD to
external SSD, which I think is roughly 1 Gb/sec or well below both USB 3.0
and USB 3.1 max.

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is not
USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

If it is misdescribed there is little chance of doing anything about it
because it has been in the drawer for ages (years?).
Ah! 21st November 2019 was the order date.
[Along with a desk for my remodeled office.

<https://www.startech.com/en-gb/faq/usb-3-1-port-capabilities>
suggests that all USB 3 types should support the USB C connector.

Could it be USB 2?

I will test further once the copy operation (which was the point of this exercise) is completed. Perhaps now that it is formatted it will be
recognised on the Thunderbolt port.

Anway, another complication I could do without.

Cheers



Dave R


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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 11:39:58 +0000, David wrote:

Just found an Ineo Aluminium Rugged Enclosure for 2.5" drives, along
with some unused SSDs.
Model T2580/C2580c.

I stuck a Crucial MX300 in and started using it.

The enclosure is (allegedly) USB 3.0/3.1 Gen 2 and has a USB C
connector.

Testing so far on this Dell Latitude 7280 shows that it is not
recognised on the USB C port, but is recognised on the USB 3 port with a converter to USB C interface.

Speed is showing at around 100 MB/sec copying from internal SSD to
external SSD, which I think is roughly 1 Gb/sec or well below both USB
3.0 and USB 3.1 max.

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is not
USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

If it is misdescribed there is little chance of doing anything about it because it has been in the drawer for ages (years?).
Ah! 21st November 2019 was the order date.
[Along with a desk for my remodeled office.

<https://www.startech.com/en-gb/faq/usb-3-1-port-capabilities>
suggests that all USB 3 types should support the USB C connector.

Could it be USB 2?

I will test further once the copy operation (which was the point of this exercise) is completed. Perhaps now that it is formatted it will be recognised on the Thunderbolt port.

Anway, another complication I could do without.

Tried connecting it again after the copy had finished and still no joy.

Rebooted with the drive plugged in and it is now recognising it.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I hadn't had a USB C to USB A
converter.

Anyway, it does seem to be working now.

Cheers



Dave R



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David wrote:

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is not
USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

This can help

<https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html>

Could it be USB 2?

It certainly could, the first USB C device I bought (7+ years ago) was USB 2.0 only.

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On 29 Aug 2022 at 13:28:23 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 11:39:58 +0000, David wrote:

Just found an Ineo Aluminium Rugged Enclosure for 2.5" drives, along
with some unused SSDs.
Model T2580/C2580c.

I stuck a Crucial MX300 in and started using it.

The enclosure is (allegedly) USB 3.0/3.1 Gen 2 and has a USB C
connector.

Testing so far on this Dell Latitude 7280 shows that it is not
recognised on the USB C port, but is recognised on the USB 3 port with a
converter to USB C interface.

Speed is showing at around 100 MB/sec copying from internal SSD to
external SSD, which I think is roughly 1 Gb/sec or well below both USB
3.0 and USB 3.1 max.

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is not
USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

If it is misdescribed there is little chance of doing anything about it
because it has been in the drawer for ages (years?).
Ah! 21st November 2019 was the order date.
[Along with a desk for my remodeled office.

<https://www.startech.com/en-gb/faq/usb-3-1-port-capabilities>
suggests that all USB 3 types should support the USB C connector.

Could it be USB 2?

I will test further once the copy operation (which was the point of this
exercise) is completed. Perhaps now that it is formatted it will be
recognised on the Thunderbolt port.

Anway, another complication I could do without.

Tried connecting it again after the copy had finished and still no joy.

Rebooted with the drive plugged in and it is now recognising it.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I hadn't had a USB C to USB A converter.

Check that the adapter is USB3 - you'll be able to spy the extra five
contacts by eye.

Cheers - Jaimie
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pocket computer instantaneously to subscribers
worldwide using only his right thumb.
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Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 29 Aug 2022 at 13:28:23 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 11:39:58 +0000, David wrote:

Just found an Ineo Aluminium Rugged Enclosure for 2.5" drives, along
with some unused SSDs.
Model T2580/C2580c.

I stuck a Crucial MX300 in and started using it.

The enclosure is (allegedly) USB 3.0/3.1 Gen 2 and has a USB C
connector.

Testing so far on this Dell Latitude 7280 shows that it is not
recognised on the USB C port, but is recognised on the USB 3 port with a >> converter to USB C interface.

Speed is showing at around 100 MB/sec copying from internal SSD to
external SSD, which I think is roughly 1 Gb/sec or well below both USB
3.0 and USB 3.1 max.

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is not
USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

If it is misdescribed there is little chance of doing anything about it
because it has been in the drawer for ages (years?).
Ah! 21st November 2019 was the order date.
[Along with a desk for my remodeled office.

<https://www.startech.com/en-gb/faq/usb-3-1-port-capabilities>
suggests that all USB 3 types should support the USB C connector.

Could it be USB 2?

I will test further once the copy operation (which was the point of this >> exercise) is completed. Perhaps now that it is formatted it will be
recognised on the Thunderbolt port.

Anway, another complication I could do without.

Tried connecting it again after the copy had finished and still no joy.

Rebooted with the drive plugged in and it is now recognising it.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I hadn't had a USB C to USB A converter.

Check that the adapter is USB3 - you'll be able to spy the extra five contacts by eye.

The adapter must be USB3, because USB2 tops out at 480Mbps ie 60MBps, with actual transfer speed somewhat less.

It's possible the adapter doesn't support UASP, which is used to improve transfer speeds over the regular USB Mass Storage protocol.

Theo

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 21:27:09 +0100, Theo wrote:

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:

On 29 Aug 2022 at 13:28:23 BST, "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 11:39:58 +0000, David wrote:

Just found an Ineo Aluminium Rugged Enclosure for 2.5" drives, along
with some unused SSDs.
Model T2580/C2580c.

I stuck a Crucial MX300 in and started using it.

The enclosure is (allegedly) USB 3.0/3.1 Gen 2 and has a USB C
connector.

Testing so far on this Dell Latitude 7280 shows that it is not
recognised on the USB C port, but is recognised on the USB 3 port
with a converter to USB C interface.

Speed is showing at around 100 MB/sec copying from internal SSD to
external SSD, which I think is roughly 1 Gb/sec or well below both
USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 max.

I'm now wondering if the interface (despite the USB C connector) is
not USB 3.1.

Also wondering if there is any way to check definitively.

If it is misdescribed there is little chance of doing anything about
it because it has been in the drawer for ages (years?).
Ah! 21st November 2019 was the order date.
[Along with a desk for my remodeled office.

<https://www.startech.com/en-gb/faq/usb-3-1-port-capabilities>
suggests that all USB 3 types should support the USB C connector.

Could it be USB 2?

I will test further once the copy operation (which was the point of
this exercise) is completed. Perhaps now that it is formatted it
will be recognised on the Thunderbolt port.

Anway, another complication I could do without.

Tried connecting it again after the copy had finished and still no
joy.

Rebooted with the drive plugged in and it is now recognising it.

I'm not sure what I would have done if I hadn't had a USB C to USB A
converter.

Check that the adapter is USB3 - you'll be able to spy the extra five
contacts by eye.

The adapter must be USB3, because USB2 tops out at 480Mbps ie 60MBps,
with actual transfer speed somewhat less.

It's possible the adapter doesn't support UASP, which is used to improve transfer speeds over the regular USB Mass Storage protocol.

Theo

For clarity, after the reboot the external drive is connected to the Thunderbolt port and working via that.

This means that the USB A to USB C adapter is no longer required.

The original problem was that the Thunderbolt port was not recognising the unformatted SSD in the external enclosure.

The USB A->C converter allowed the SSD to be recognised.
After formatting the SSD the Thunderbolt port still didn't seem to
recognise it.
After a reboot with the USB C connector plugged into the Thunderbolt port
the SSD was recognised.

Unanswered question is would the SSD have been recognised before
formatting if I had rebooted the laptop with it plugged into the
Thunderbolt port.
Alternatively, was it the controller in the enclosure which was not
recognised?
If so a future connection with an unformatted SSD should potentially work.

At some point I can test this (but not now).

Cheers



Dave R



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