I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it up?
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it up?
In article <xn0nkxwpgky9hpc016@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote...
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >>access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's >>fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, >>perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it
up?
I believe some data recovery services (e.g. Fields) will attempt to recover >data from an SSD, if you're concerned there might be something
irreplaceable on
it. Generally, when SSDs go, they go completely, without the warning you
can
get from SMART monitors on a spinner, so backup's all the more important!
On 29 Jul 2022 at 14:30:43 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >> access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised,
perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it up?
Yup. Open it up and hammer a punch at the centre of each of the larger
chips to shatter/bend them. The actual data substrate is very fragile
once the package is damaged, and the data is interleaved across all the
flash chips so any one being cracked gives sufficient coverage really.
Cheers - Jaimie
In article <xn0nkz8t5maf92w018@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote...
On 30/07/2022 in message
<MPG.3d4e0edb7e5a21f8989a07@news.eternal-september.org> Philip Herlihy
wrote:
In article <xn0nkxwpgky9hpc016@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote... >>>>Many thanks Jaimie and Phil :-)
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >>>> access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, >>>> perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it >>>> up?
I believe some data recovery services (e.g. Fields) will attempt to recover >>> data from an SSD, if you're concerned there might be something
irreplaceable on
it. Generally, when SSDs go, they go completely, without the warning you >>> can
get from SMART monitors on a spinner, so backup's all the more important! >>
I took the cover off (and kept the screws, they're like gold dust) then
just snapped each chip in half. All backed up so nothing to worry about
and, as Phil said, it just went, no warning.
First one I've had fail, even my original Intel 180 GB are still gong
strong.
I chose to increase the cost of a fancy laptop by over £400 in 2010 to have a
256GB SSD instead of the normal spinner. It lasted just over a year!
Moral: don't be an early adopter!
On 30/07/2022 in message <MPG.3d4e0edb7e5a21f8989a07@news.eternal-september.org> Philip Herlihy
wrote:
In article <xn0nkxwpgky9hpc016@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines wrote...
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >>access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's >>fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, >>perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it >>up?
I believe some data recovery services (e.g. Fields) will attempt to recover >data from an SSD, if you're concerned there might be something >irreplaceable on
it. Generally, when SSDs go, they go completely, without the warning you >can
get from SMART monitors on a spinner, so backup's all the more important!
Many thanks Jaimie and Phil :-)
I took the cover off (and kept the screws, they're like gold dust) then
just snapped each chip in half. All backed up so nothing to worry about
and, as Phil said, it just went, no warning.
First one I've had fail, even my original Intel 180 GB are still gong
strong.
FWIW, My first SSD from 2009 is still working. Apart from numerous OCZs, which I started buying in 2011, all my SSDs, still work.
On 29/07/2022 21:11, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 29 Jul 2022 at 14:30:43 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Yup. Open it up and hammer a punch at the centre of each of the larger
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >>> access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, >>> perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it up? >>
chips to shatter/bend them. The actual data substrate is very fragile
once the package is damaged, and the data is interleaved across all the
flash chips so any one being cracked gives sufficient coverage really.
How worthwhile is that for most ordinary people?
On 30 Jul 2022 at 13:38:24 BST, Pancho wrote:
FWIW, My first SSD from 2009 is still working. Apart from numerous OCZs,
which I started buying in 2011, all my SSDs, still work.
Yes same here, an Intel, marvelluoos thing. And my only failure is an OCZ from
a while back.
On 30/07/2022 21:17, RJH wrote:
On 30 Jul 2022 at 13:38:24 BST, Pancho wrote:
FWIW, My first SSD from 2009 is still working. Apart from numerous OCZs, >>> which I started buying in 2011, all my SSDs, still work.
Yes same here, an Intel, marvelluoos thing. And my only failure is an
OCZ from
a while back.
For heavy users, does anyone obey over provisioning recommendations for
SSD reliability?
On 30 Jul 2022 at 14:10:27 BST, "GB" <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid>
wrote:
On 29/07/2022 21:11, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
On 29 Jul 2022 at 14:30:43 BST, ""Jeff Gaines""
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
I've just had my first SSD fail I think. It's a Crucial M4 512 GB. I can't >>>> access it via any of the cables/connectors/caddies I have nor if it's
fitted in a PC.
I have no idea what's on it and I can't format it as it's not recognised, >>>> perhaps best to dismantle it, see what's inside and physically break it up?
Yup. Open it up and hammer a punch at the centre of each of the larger
chips to shatter/bend them. The actual data substrate is very fragile
once the package is damaged, and the data is interleaved across all the
flash chips so any one being cracked gives sufficient coverage really.
How worthwhile is that for most ordinary people?
Shrug. Jeff wanted to. Only takes a minute or so. Why not?
Cheers - Jaimie
On 31/07/2022 06:54, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 30/07/2022 21:17, RJH wrote:
On 30 Jul 2022 at 13:38:24 BST, Pancho wrote:
FWIW, My first SSD from 2009 is still working. Apart from numerous OCZs, >>>> which I started buying in 2011, all my SSDs, still work.
Yes same here, an Intel, marvelluoos thing. And my only failure is an
OCZ from
a while back.
For heavy users, does anyone obey over provisioning recommendations for
SSD reliability?
I use RAID1 (aside from backup). However, I'm inclined to think that I'm missing a trick, because I buy my SSDs in pairs from the same
manufacturer. Should I be buying completely different SSDs? In RAID1,
that means the speed will be governed by the slower disc. On the other
hand, they are less likely to both fail at more or less the same time?
Never had an SSD fail yet, btw.
Two new disks in RAID1 are likely to fail about the same time. Say if one is 20% worn out when inserted into RAID1, when it fails first there will be enough life in the second, newer, disk to allow the RAID to be rebuilt.
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