• How to break my workings

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 17 04:59:05 2020
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    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
    waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
    break them? You could come up with a better replacement
    idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
    God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
    pray to God to break them. However you might still
    have to come up with a better replacement idea.

    If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
    could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.

    However you may have nothing to worry about since I
    have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
    and will probably fail again this time.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Harry Krishna@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 17 08:21:28 2020
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    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:59:05 -0330, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    That's cute. Why share it with atheists, though?

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 17 22:30:47 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 17, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2563C1510006478B70000459F38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
    waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
    break them? You could come up with a better replacement
    idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
    God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
    pray to God to break them. However you might still
    have to come up with a better replacement idea.

    If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
    could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.

    However you may have nothing to worry about since I
    have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
    and will probably fail again this time.

    If you don’t like part of the workings, of course you
    could just will or pray a better replacement idea for
    that part, rather than everything.

    Why do I say My Species above instead of Human?
    Well, there has been an evolution of homo sapiens globally
    into 55 equal species in ghuman species group (where
    the prefix g means in my global region). Instead of
    My Species I could say Ghuman1. If you are referring
    to it you could say Ghuman1 or His Species. Physical
    evolution, including a cure of Covid-19, is in progress.

    For progress on my workings see the thread “see-saw again”
    on alt.magick .

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Harry Krishna on Tue Nov 17 22:01:33 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 17, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<uhj7rf5icv0ed528bc647u0ob3ki455pk7@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 04:59:05 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    That's cute. Why share it with atheists, though?

    Obviously if the magickal workings have an effect, atheists
    will be affected, and as I have argued before they could
    consider it to be nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory butterfly
    effect systemic feedback triggered by my proposal seed
    and aided by the peek into higher dimensions I got
    during the tunnelling beyond the sun during my sun stare
    and the near-invisible sky-wings or sun-wings that then
    wrapped around me and augmented my higher dimensional
    form, over 29 years ago.

    Of course if they have no effect, atheists can just ignore
    them, but if they have an effect some atheists may want to know
    how to break and improve them.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Harry Krishna on Thu Nov 19 01:17:18 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):

    If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
    old to be believing in magic(k)?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    (Arthur C. Clarke)

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Harry Krishna@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 19 07:57:46 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):

    If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
    old to be believing in magic(k)?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    (Arthur C. Clarke)

    That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually
    exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Harry Krishna on Thu Nov 19 17:04:41 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 19, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<8pqcrf5ant1a0tqd45r59kecpeigjv3ggm@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):

    If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
    old to be believing in magic(k)?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. (Arthur C. Clarke)

    That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually
    exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.

    If my “magickal workings” do have an effect I hope to be able
    to eventually explain them to atheists in an at least arm-waving
    (possible explanation if not proven explanation) fashion
    involving, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, nonlinear
    chaos/catastrophe theory, higher dimensional mathematics,
    and I also add here, overlapping consciousness wavelets
    with both a spacial extent and a time window extent centred
    on the present, with problems if the window is too wide or
    too narrow or skewed.

    But for now at least my workings seem dependent on the
    Earth, sun, and moon being conscious, and to a lesser
    extent on there being species someones (like a collective
    consciousness of a species only also containing bodies).
    I will eventually work on scientific theories as to how
    these things might be possible. Of course, even if they
    are proven to be conscious, they don’t have to be
    considered deities (worshipped) by anyone.

    My theories/workings do not depend any more on there
    being a match to my definition of God as the ruler of
    the region all/everything.

    And again, if the workings have no effect, then of course
    no explanation is needed, and you can ignore me.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel/And the wheel is on a hill/And the hill is shifting sand/And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Harry Krishna@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 20 08:27:08 2020
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.religion.misc, alt.religion
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:04:41 -0330, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 19, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<8pqcrf5ant1a0tqd45r59kecpeigjv3ggm@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):

    If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little
    old to be believing in magic(k)?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
    (Arthur C. Clarke)

    That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually
    exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.

    If my magickal workings do have an effect I hope to be able
    to eventually explain them to atheists in an at least arm-waving
    (possible explanation if not proven explanation) fashion
    involving, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, nonlinear
    chaos/catastrophe theory, higher dimensional mathematics,
    and I also add here, overlapping consciousness wavelets
    with both a spacial extent and a time window extent centred
    on the present, with problems if the window is too wide or
    too narrow or skewed.

    But for now at least my workings seem dependent on the
    Earth, sun, and moon being conscious, and to a lesser
    extent on there being species someones (like a collective
    consciousness of a species only also containing bodies).
    I will eventually work on scientific theories as to how
    these things might be possible. Of course, even if they
    are proven to be conscious, they dont have to be
    considered deities (worshipped) by anyone.

    My theories/workings do not depend any more on there
    being a match to my definition of God as the ruler of
    the region all/everything.

    And again, if the workings have no effect, then of course
    no explanation is needed, and you can ignore me.

    Wow. That's some mighty powerful woo-woo!

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Harry Krishna on Fri Nov 20 19:46:40 2020
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    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 20, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<d0hfrflf6e2jj1n5qev3jv60jn13343uj2@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 17:04:41 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 19, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<8pqcrf5ant1a0tqd45r59kecpeigjv3ggm@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 01:17:18 -0330, David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    On Nov 18, 2020, Harry Krishna wrote
    (in article<i08arfppf72ecpt8i3dliseu4dp8558p3h@4ax.com>):

    If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Aren't you a little old to be believing in magic(k)?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. (Arthur C. Clarke)

    That's not an answer. Technology has the advantage that it actually exists, but there's no magic to it, that's just a metaphor. Try again.

    If my “magickal workings” do have an effect I hope to be able
    to eventually explain them to atheists in an at least arm-waving
    (possible explanation if not proven explanation) fashion
    involving, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory, higher dimensional mathematics,
    and I also add here, overlapping consciousness wavelets
    with both a spacial extent and a time window extent centred
    on the present, with problems if the window is too wide or
    too narrow or skewed.

    But for now at least my workings seem dependent on the
    Earth, sun, and moon being conscious, and to a lesser
    extent on there being species someones (like a collective
    consciousness of a species only also containing bodies).
    I will eventually work on scientific theories as to how
    these things might be possible. Of course, even if they
    are proven to be conscious, they don’t have to be
    considered deities (worshipped) by anyone.

    My theories/workings do not depend any more on there
    being a match to my definition of God as the ruler of
    the region all/everything.

    And again, if the workings have no effect, then of course
    no explanation is needed, and you can ignore me.

    Wow. That's some mighty powerful woo-woo!

    Ha, thanks!

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "I'm going to take a good sharp ax/Shining steel tempered in the fire
    We'll chop you down like an old dead tree/Dirty old town" (E. MacColl)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 24 02:00:41 2020
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.religion.misc, alt.religion
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 17, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2563C1510006478B70000459F38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
    waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
    break them? You could come up with a better replacement
    idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
    God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
    pray to God to break them. However you might still
    have to come up with a better replacement idea.

    If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
    could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.

    However you may have nothing to worry about since I
    have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
    and will probably fail again this time.

    Why do I seem to want my workings broken? I don’t, but
    I wouldn’t mind them being improved by others.

    And some might say, well, I have a very strong breakage spell
    that could be applied to such workings. But I have funnelled
    more than one such breakage spell already, and they have
    been adjusted so they will only work to break black magick
    (magick with a negative goodness measure as defined by
    each of my four local main deities). Moreover, in my popthrough
    component I have including funnelling by past avatar types
    going back 11,000 years and those in the shaktipat lineage
    of those avatar types, and that covers many more such breakage
    spells. And if someone improvises a truly new breakage spell
    I would detect it and funnel it, or if I am asleep an assisted
    shaktipat recipient would detect it and funnel it. So again
    I think the only way to break all or part of my workings is
    to come up with a better replacement idea.

    But for those who haven’t been following me, what are my
    four components? Here is a summary taken from the
    Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage of my
    Salmon on the Thorns web page:
    ----------------------
    They are: (1) funnel, (2) popthrough, (3) Sarah stuff, (4) barebones.

    (1) the funnel is an adjustment, of items funnelled by me, by my four local main deities Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species to become something better as defined by them. Items funnelled included spells that hit me, and tendencies
    I had to sin. All instances in my global region would be affected. So a negative spell could result in a "funnel bounce".

    (2) The popthroughs are updates, expansions, and usually reactivations of
    past Openings of the way, probably including stuff like 1, 3, and 4, by past avatar types similar to me, mostly but not necessarily operating on a smaller region. The expansion would be to cover some, including those now in the original region, those covered by belief in the original figure, and those covered by descent, in my global region.

    (3) the Sarah stuff is a repeat of wishes, prayers, and magickal workings of
    my main human inspirer, Sarah McLachlan, or stuff she has designated to
    replace that repeat.

    (4) barebones consists of some subcomponents that I would hope would get activated even if 1--3 were not: (a) healing circle prescriptions, (b) a species balance, (c) assisted shaktipat, from me but assisted by my four
    local main deities Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and collaborators, to
    many including those “ordained" by at least one of those four and those ordained by human(s) to bishop level or above or equivalent (plus some more women in religions that do not ordain women to bishop level or equivalent,
    plus some atheists), (d) sudden magickal evolution, (e) a main stack of
    levels of change access to the healing circle prescriptions.

    But again my four local main deities are activating only the subset of the
    four components material that they like and are capable of activating. --------------------

    I think that the item criminals are most likely to want to break is the
    healing circle prescriptions, which are a global binding of criminals
    (and good advice for non-criminals), and which should result in
    warning signs for criminals and charisma modulation as I have
    discussed before. But note that even for extreme criminals (e.g.
    the radio announcers who instigated the Rwandan genocide)
    they have a very lenient escape option. If they do not accept
    that they have an intermediate option of prison time. If they
    accept neither of those two they would die relatively soon (again
    for extreme criminals).

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
    "I'm going to take a good sharp ax/Shining steel tempered in the fire
    We'll chop you down like an old dead tree/Dirty old town" (E. MacColl)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 27 01:53:20 2020
    XPost: alt.atheism, talk.religion.misc, alt.religion
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism

    On Nov 17, 2020, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2563C1510006478B70000459F38F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    Again, in my latest global new age onset magickal workings
    attempt, I have been invoking my four local main deities
    Gaia, Sola, Luna, and My Species, and believe that God
    (the ruler of the region all/everything), if it exists, is delegating
    this local (to the Earth Moon system) matter to them.

    But if indeed the workings are coming on during this early
    waxing moon, and you do not like them, how can you
    break them? You could come up with a better replacement
    idea and convey it to one or more of those four. Or, of course
    God is capable of breaking the workings, so you could
    pray to God to break them. However you might still
    have to come up with a better replacement idea.

    If you are atheist and do not want to pray to a deity you
    could just meditate and will a better replacement idea.

    However you may have nothing to worry about since I
    have failed hundreds of times in the last 24.4 years
    and will probably fail again this time.

    Once again I have my hopes up now, late at night, and hope they
    won’t be dashed in the cold light of day.

    I describe my recent activation attempts in recent threads on
    alt.magick , and hope that now everything is fully on (including
    that the physical evolution, including of adults, is now in
    progress) leading up towards full moon and New Year’s.

    And I hope that some of you, especially those who are
    assisted shaktipat recipients, can indeed improve on
    my workings.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And now the angry morning/Gives the early signs of warning/You must face alone the plans you make/Decisions they will try to break" (Sarah McLachlan)

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