• How can I be an avatar type without any followers?

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 00:43:40 2022
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan
    XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.meditation

    Some might ask how I can be an avatar type when I have no followers?
    Well, in the pre-Internet age an avatar type would have depended
    on listeners to get his messages out. But in the Internet age, I
    have relayed to very few people verbally but many more
    globally over the Internet, and those count as my listeners,
    though I have no followers at this stage and indeed want
    no blind followers though I do want people to consider my
    essential messages. (Plus see the note below on blocks.)

    On the Internet I have delivered autobiographical material,
    repetitive (cry wolf?) descriptions of my magickal workings,
    my parallels with past figures theory, and occasionally
    my essential messages (which are on my Salmon on the
    Thorns webpage) by (1) email (including to the staff of three RC
    Archbishops recently, and years ago to a range of Celtic pagan
    and indigenous contacts, and to Oliver Sacks, Michael
    Persinger, and tapestry@cbc.ca), (2) by web forums (including
    the Joseph Campbell Foundation web forum, the Alternative
    Religions web forum, The Spiritual Humanism web forum,
    PODSNet, and The OBOD Message Board), (3) by email
    mailing lists (mainly to pendulum and fumbling-towards-ecstasy),
    (4) by Facebook groups (Visionary Mental Heallh; Fireweed Collective,
    Shades of Awakening; Crazywise Conversations; Holistic
    Mental Health Discussion; Spiritually Sensitive Gnostic
    Shamans, Healers, and Witches; Pagan Newfloundland;
    Avalon Mystery Collective; and Fumblers); (5) by probably
    over 100 Usenet newsgroups since 1992; and (6) by my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage. I divine by perineum
    click divination that about 329,000 people have received
    at least 50 words from me in the last 31 years, though with
    the decline of Usenet newsgroups many of them haven’t
    read anything from me in quite a few years. And of
    course devi type Sarah McLachlan has reached
    668 million people with at least 50 words, so I hope
    she promotes me at some point.

    Also there have been blocks on access, communication,
    and belief, which have now been lifted for assisted
    shaktipat recipients (but they might face disbelief
    from non-a.s.r. until the blocks are lifted in general,
    which I think will be within two days). And I am
    hoping that Goddess, the ruler of the region all/everything,
    who many call God, will then do memory
    jogging of at least some of my old readers, especially a.s.r.

    The induced (P) did not work yet, but assisted shaktipat
    recipients should now be able to pass a belly pop test,
    and I hope to try the induced (P) again within the
    next day or so.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
    find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Noah Sombrero@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 27 04:09:28 2022
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan
    XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.meditation

    On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 00:43:40 -0230, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
    wrote:

    How can you be an avatar, which is an incarnation of god? My
    impression is that previous avatars did not claimed such. They simply
    spoke their words and let those who were moved remember and eventually
    write them down. Claiming to be an avatar essentially unsays the
    claim. It should be enough to speak and let others remember if they
    wish. And remember to go quietly when the roman soldier comes to drag
    you away.

    Some might ask how I can be an avatar type when I have no followers?
    Well, in the pre-Internet age an avatar type would have depended
    on listeners to get his messages out. But in the Internet age, I
    have relayed to very few people verbally but many more
    globally over the Internet, and those count as my listeners,
    though I have no followers at this stage and indeed want
    no blind followers though I do want people to consider my
    essential messages. (Plus see the note below on blocks.)

    On the Internet I have delivered autobiographical material,
    repetitive (cry wolf?) descriptions of my magickal workings,
    my parallels with past figures theory, and occasionally
    my essential messages (which are on my Salmon on the
    Thorns webpage) by (1) email (including to the staff of three RC
    Archbishops recently, and years ago to a range of Celtic pagan
    and indigenous contacts, and to Oliver Sacks, Michael
    Persinger, and tapestry@cbc.ca), (2) by web forums (including
    the Joseph Campbell Foundation web forum, the Alternative
    Religions web forum, The Spiritual Humanism web forum,
    PODSNet, and The OBOD Message Board), (3) by email
    mailing lists (mainly to pendulum and fumbling-towards-ecstasy),
    (4) by Facebook groups (Visionary Mental Heallh; Fireweed Collective,
    Shades of Awakening; Crazywise Conversations; Holistic
    Mental Health Discussion; Spiritually Sensitive Gnostic
    Shamans, Healers, and Witches; Pagan Newfloundland;
    Avalon Mystery Collective; and Fumblers); (5) by probably
    over 100 Usenet newsgroups since 1992; and (6) by my
    Salmon on the Thorns webpage. I divine by perineum
    click divination that about 329,000 people have received
    at least 50 words from me in the last 31 years, though with
    the decline of Usenet newsgroups many of them haven’t
    read anything from me in quite a few years. And of
    course devi type Sarah McLachlan has reached
    668 million people with at least 50 words, so I hope
    she promotes me at some point.

    Also there have been blocks on access, communication,
    and belief, which have now been lifted for assisted
    shaktipat recipients (but they might face disbelief
    from non-a.s.r. until the blocks are lifted in general,
    which I think will be within two days). And I am
    hoping that Goddess, the ruler of the region all/everything,
    who many call God, will then do memory
    jogging of at least some of my old readers, especially a.s.r.

    The induced (P) did not work yet, but assisted shaktipat
    recipients should now be able to pass a belly pop test,
    and I hope to try the induced (P) again within the
    next day or so.
    --
    Noah Sombrero

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Noah Sombrero on Wed Jul 27 14:25:42 2022
    XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.religion.buddhism, alt.religion.buddhism.tibetan
    XPost: alt.philosophy.zen, alt.meditation

    On Jul 27, 2022, Noah Sombrero wrote
    (in article<c5s1eh5hkaafohpds47u9m0fj7hsthq2bg@4ax.com>):

    How can you be an avatar, which is an incarnation of god? My
    impression is that previous avatars did not claimed such. They simply
    spoke their words and let those who were moved remember and eventually
    write them down. Claiming to be an avatar essentially unsays the
    claim. It should be enough to speak and let others remember if they
    wish. And remember to go quietly when the roman soldier comes to drag
    you away.

    Note that I say avatar type and not avatar, and I define
    avatar type on https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/deities.html .

    And avatar type is one similar to those who have been
    called avatars, and is capable of soul aligning with any
    other someone at least temporarily, given the permission
    of the other someone. That I think is similar to tales of
    Krishna making himself small or big.

    I don’t claim to be an incarnation of a deity, and I don’t
    believe that any past figures who have been called
    avatars were either.

    And I think you are confusing avatar types with
    guri/prophet/missionary/founder types.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
    find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

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