• Refuting the "no soul" trash of modern buddhism. Or, facts/doctrine

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  • From andrej.segul@gmail.com@21:1/5 to attasarana on Fri Oct 5 20:12:03 2018
    On Monday, September 28, 2009 at 12:14:14 AM UTC+5:30, attasarana wrote:
    ANATTA / ANATMAN IN DETAIL

    The definition of one word where modern Pseudo-Buddhism took a turn
    into the dark corner of ignorance
    Copyright 2007 webmaster attan.com, REVISED 2-2008

    The Buddhist term Anatman (Sanskrit), or Anatta (Pali) is an
    adjective in sutra used to refer to the nature of phenomena as being
    devoid of the Soul, that being the ontological and uncompounded
    subjective Self (atman) which is the “light (dipam), and only
    refuge” [DN 2.100]. Of the 662 occurrences of the term Anatta in the Nikayas, its usage is restricted to referring to 22 nouns (forms,
    feelings, perception, experiences, consciousness, the eye, eye- consciousness, desires, mentation, mental formations, ear, nose,
    tongue, body, lusts, things unreal, etc.), all phenomenal, as being
    Selfless (anatta). Contrary to countless many popular (=profane, or = consensus, from which the truth can ‘never be gathered’) books (as Buddhologist C.A.F. Davids has deemed them ‘miserable little books’) written outside the scope of Buddhist doctrine, there is no “Doctrine
    of anatta/anatman” mentioned anywhere in the sutras, rather anatta is
    used only to refer to impermanent things/phenomena as other than the
    Soul, to be anatta, or Self-less (an-atta).
    Specifically in sutra, anatta is used to describe the temporal
    and unreal (metaphysically so) nature of any and all composite, consubstantial, phenomenal, and temporal things, from macrocosmic to microcosmic, be it matter as pertains the physical body, the cosmos at
    large, including any and all mental machinations which are of the
    nature of arising and passing. Anatta in sutra is synonymous and interchangeable with the terms dukkha (suffering) and anicca
    (impermanent); all three terms are often used in triplet in making a
    blanket statement as regards any and all phenomena. Such as: “All
    these aggregates are anicca, dukkha, and anatta.” It should be further noted that, in doctrine, that the only noun which is branded permanent (nicca), is obviously and logically so, the noun attan [Skt. Atman],
    such as passage (SN 1.169).
    Anatta refers specifically and only to the absence of the
    permanent soul as pertains any or all of the psycho-physical (namo-
    rupa) attributes, or khandhas (skandhas, aggregates). Anatta/Anatman
    in the earliest existing Buddhist texts, the Nikayas, is an adjective,
    (A is anatta, B is anatta, C is anatta). The commonly (=profane,
    consensus, herd-views) held belief to wit that: “Anatta means no-soul, therefore Buddhism taught that there was no soul” is an irrational absurdity which cannot be found or doctrinally substantiated by means
    of the Nikayas, the suttas (Skt. Sutras), of Buddhism.
    The Pali compound term and noun for “no soul” is natthatta (literally “there is not/no[nattha]+atta’[Soul]), not the term anatta, and is mentioned at Samyutta Nikaya 4.400, where Gotama was asked if
    there “was no-soul (natthatta)”, to which Gotama equated this position
    to be a Nihilistic heresy (ucchedavada). Common throughout Buddhist
    sutra (and Vedanta as well) is the denial of psycho-physical
    attributes of the mere empirical self to be the Soul, or confused with
    same. The Buddhist paradigm (and the most common repeating passage in
    sutta) as regards phenomena is “Na me so atta” (this/these are not my soul), this most common utterance of Gotama the Buddha in the Nikayas,
    where “na me so atta” = Anatta/Anatman. In sutta, to hold the view
    that there was “no-Soul” (natthatta) is = natthika (nihilist).
    Buddhism differs from the “nothing-morist” (Skt. Nastika, Pali
    natthika) in affirming a spiritual nature that is not in any wise, but immeasurable, inconnumerable, infinite, and inaccessible to
    observation; and of which, therefore, empirical science can neither
    affirm nor deny the reality thereof of him who has ‘Gone to That [Brahman]” (tathatta). It is to the Spirit (Skt. Atman, Pali attan) as distinguished from oneself (namo-rupa/ or khandhas, mere self as =
    anatta) i.e., whatever is phenomenal and formal (Skt. and Pali nama-
    rupa, and savinnana-kaya) “name and appearance”, and the “body with
    its consciousness”. [SN 2.17] ‘Nonbeing (asat, natthiti [views of
    either sabbamnatthi ‘the all is ultimately not’ (atomism), and sabbam puthuttan ‘the all is merely composite’ [SN 2.77] both of this
    positions are existential antinomies, and heresies of annihilationism])’”. In contrast it has been incorrectly asserted that affirmation of the atman is = sassatavada (conventionally deemed ‘eternalism’). However the Pali term sasastavada is never associated
    with the atman, but that the atman was an agent (karmin) in and of
    samsara which is subject to the whims of becoming (bhava), or which is
    meant kammavada (karma-ism, or merit agencyship); such as sassatavada
    in sutta = “atta ca so loka ca” (the atman and the world [are one]),
    or: ‘Being (sat, atthiti [views of either sabbamatthi ‘the all is entirety’, and sabbamekattan ‘the all is one’s Soul’ [SN 2.77] both are heresies of perpetualism]). Sasastavada is the wrong conception
    that one is perpetually (sassata) bound within samsara and that merit
    is the highest attainment for either this life or for the next. The
    heretical antinomy to nihilism (vibhava, or = ucchedavada) is not, nor
    in sutta, the atman, but bhava (becoming, agencyship). Forever, or
    eternal becoming is nowhere in sutta identified with the atman, which
    is “never an agent (karmin)”, and “has never become
    anything” (=bhava). These antinomies of bhava (sassatavada) and
    vibhava (ucchedavada) both entail illogical positions untenable to the Vedantic or Buddhist atman; however the concept of “eternalism” as = atman has been the fallacious secondary crutch for supporting the no-
    atman commentarialists position on anatta implying = there is no
    atman.
    Logically so, according to the philosophical premise of Gotama,
    the initiate to Buddhism who is to be “shown the way to Immortality (amata)” [MN 2.265, SN 5.9], wherein liberation of the spirit/mind
    [Greek = nous] (cittavimutta; Greek = epistrophe) is effectuated thru
    the expansion of wisdom and the meditative practices of sati and
    samadhi (assimilation, or synthesis, complete disobjectification with
    all objective [unreal] 'reality'), must first be educated away from
    his former ignorance-based (avijja) materialistic proclivities in
    that he (the common fool) “saw any of these forms, feelings, this body
    in whole or part, to be my Self/Atman, to be that which I am by
    nature”. Teaching the via negativa methodology of anatta in sutta
    pertains solely to things phenomenal, which were: “subject to
    perpetual change; therefore unfit to declare of such things ‘these are mine, these are what I am, that these are my Soul’” [MN 1.232]. The
    one scriptural passage where Gotama is asked by a layperson what the
    meaning of anatta is as follows: [Samyutta Nikaya 3.196] At one time
    in Savatthi, the venerable Radha seated himself and asked of the
    Blessed Lord Buddha: “Anatta, anatta I hear said venerable. What pray
    tell does Anatta mean?” “Just this Radha, form is not the Soul
    (anatta), sensations are not the Soul (anatta), perceptions are not
    the Soul (anatta), assemblages are not the Soul (anatta),
    consciousness is not the Soul (anatta). Seeing thusly, this is the end
    of birth, the Brahman life has been fulfilled, what must be done has
    been done.”
    Anatta as taught in the Nikayas has merely relative value as it
    is directly conducive to Subjective awakening, or illumination; it is
    not an absolute one. It does not say or imply simply that the Soul
    (atta, Atman) has no reality, but that certain things (5 aggregates),
    with which the unlearned man (fool = puthujjana, as is always implied
    in spiritual texts, a materialist) identifies himself, are not the
    Soul (anatta) and that is why one should grow disgusted with them,
    become detached from them and be liberated. This principle of the
    extremely abused and misunderstood term anatta does not negate the
    Soul as such, but denies Selfhood to those things that constitute the non-self (anatta), showing them thereby to be empty of any ultimate
    value and to be repudiated; instead of nullifying the Atman (Soul)
    doctrine, it in fact compliments and affirms it in the most logical
    method by which Subjective gnosis is initially gained; that by and
    thru objective negation. It has been said that: ‘No Indian school of thought has ever regarded the human soul (another error, since the
    soul is not a possession of, nor is of the nature of the persona, or
    'human') or the carrier of human personal (persona [Bob, Larry, Sue]
    is never confused by the Metaphysician, with the Person/Atman/Purisha) identity as a permanent substance (literally meaning, absurdly
    "permanent impermanence [substance]")’, which is certainly true when referring to the empirical persona (mere self [aggregates/namorupa],
    as opposed to the Person, spirit, atman), that ‘ensouled’ being, as
    was common in old English to say: “late at night, not a soul (mere
    person) was to be seen walking about”. That the atman is not to be understood as a cartesian thinking substance, phenomena, or eternal
    soul, is certainly the case, and logically cannot be otherwise.
    It cannot be missed that in so discussing the commentarialist’s position of a ‘doctrine of anatta’ that anatta is merely a qualifier
    of something else and that anatta in and of itself in standalone is
    utterly meaningless and untenable to speak or make mention of an
    ‘anatta doctrine’ without qualification of what, and in what context, anatta is being qualified of X (the afore mentioned 22 things of which
    anatta is said to equal) i.e. that which is defacto equivalent to or
    with anatta. That anatta in doctrine is aught but ever equivalent to
    what is evil, foul, disgusting, phenomenal and repulsive, to therefore
    make declaration that, as many fool "buddhists" (in name only) have
    done, “anatta is a core tenant of Buddhism” cannot be enjoined, since the principle upon which Buddhism was founded is the quest for the
    immortal (amatagamimagga SN 5.9), and the unceasing bliss as gained by
    and thru liberation in wisdom’s culmination. Anatta is, obviously so,
    a key principle in the doctrine of Buddhism (and other via negativa
    systems, of which Advaita also makes extensive use of the term
    anatman) and the metaphysics thereof quantify anatta and being meant
    all physical and mental consubstantial and temporal objectivity; all compounded things either in simplex (matter, hyle) or complex
    (mental). As an-atta is meant not-Subject (=object [phenomena]), those things, as Buddhism declares “the unlearned fool bemuses himself as
    being (those things)”. "What do you suppose, followers, if people were carrying off into the Jeta grove bunches of sticks, grasses, branches,
    and leaves and did with them as they wished or burned them up, would
    it occur to you: These people are carrying us off, are doing as they
    please with us, and are burning us? No, indeed not Lord. And how so?
    Because Lord, none of that is our Soul, nor what our Soul subsists
    upon! Just so followers, what is not who you are, do away with it,
    when you have made done with that, it will lead to your bliss and
    welfare for as long as time lasts. What is that you are not? Form,
    followers, is not who you are, neither are sensations, perceptions, experiences, consciousness" [MN 1.141]. Just as ‘disgusting (anatta) doctrine’ cannot make logical sense, neither does ‘anatta doctrine’ bring light to studiers of Buddhism what anatta is contextually or its philosophical importance as being merely a qualifier of that which is
    evil, foul, disgusting, phenomenal and repulsive (= anatta). Anatta is
    of course a doctrinal tenant within Buddhism used to earmark
    phenomena, however as conventionally and irrationally conceived, there
    is absolutely no such creature in Buddhism as a "no-Soul doctrine".
    What has Buddhism to say of the Self? "That's not my Self" (na me
    so atta); this, and the term "non Self-ishness" (anatta) predicated of
    the world and all "things" (sabbe dhamma anatta); Identical with the Brahmanical "of those who are mortal, there is no Self/Soul", (anatma
    hi martyah [SB., II. 2. 2. 3]). [KN J-1441] “The Soul is the refuge
    that I have gone unto”. For anatta is not said of the Self/Soul but
    what it is not. There is never and nowhere in sutra, a ‘doctrine of no- Soul’, but a doctrine of what the Soul is not (form is anatta,
    feelings are anatta, etc.). It is of course true that the Buddha
    denied the existence of the mere empirical “self” in the very meaning
    of “my-self” (this person so-and-so, namo-rupa, an-atta, i.e. Bob,
    Sue, Larry etc.), one might say in accordance with the command
    ‘denegat seipsum, [Mark VII.34]; but this is not what modern and
    highly unenlightened writers mean to say, or are understood by their
    readers to say; what they mean to say and do in fact say, is that the
    Buddha denied the immortal (amata), the unborn (ajata), Supreme-Self (mahatta’), uncaused (samskrta), undying (amara) and eternal (nicca)
    of the Upanishads. And that is palpably false, for he frequently
    speaks of this Self, or Spirit (mahapurisha), and nowhere more clearly
    than in the too often repeated formula 'na me so atta’, “This/these
    are not my Soul” (na me so atta’= anatta/anatman), excluding body
    (rupa) and the components of empirical consciousness (vinnana/ nama),
    a statement to which the words of Sankhara are peculiarly apposite, “Whenever we deny something unreal, is it in reference to something
    real” [Br. Sutra III.2.22]; since it was not for the Buddha, but for
    the nihilist (natthika), to deny the Soul. For, [SN 3.82] “yad
    anatta….na me so atta, “what is anatta…(means) that is not my Atman”; the extremely descriptive illumination of all thing which are Selfless (anattati) would be both meaningless and a waste of much time for
    Gotama were (as the foolish commentators espousing Buddhism’s denial
    of the atman) to clarify and simplify his sermons by outright
    declaring ‘followers, there is no atman!’, however no such passage exists. The Pali for said passage would be: ‘bhikkhave, natthattati!’; and most certainly such a passage would prove the holy grail and boon
    for the Theravadin nihilists (materialists) who have ‘protesteth too much’ that Buddhism is one in which the atman is rejected, but to no
    avail or help to their untenable views and position by the teachings themselves.
    Outside of going into the doctrines of later schisms of Buddhism,
    such as Sarvastivada, Theravada, Vajrayana, Madhyamika, and lastly
    Zen, the oldest existing texts (Nikayas) of Buddhism which predate all
    these later schools of Buddhism [The Sanchi and Bharut inscriptions
    (aka the Pillar edicts) unquestionably dated to the middle of the
    second century B.C.E. push the composition of the 5 Nikayas back to a
    earlier date by mentioning the word “pañcanekayika” (Five Nikyas), thereby placing the Nikayas as put together (no later than) at a
    period about half way between the death of the Buddha and the
    accession of Asoka (before 265 B.C.), as such the 5 Nikayas, the
    earliest existing texts of Buddhism, must have been well known and
    well established far earlier than generally perceived. Finally proving
    the majority of the five Nikayas could not have been composed any
    later than the very earliest portion of the third century B.C.E.],
    anatta is never used pejoratively in any sense in the Nikayas by
    Gotama the Buddha, who himself has said: [MN 1.140] “Both formerly and
    now, I’ve never been a nihilist (vinayika), never been one who teaches
    the annihilation of a being, rather taught only the source of
    suffering (that being avijja, or nescience/agnosis), and its ending (avijja).” Further investigation into negative theology is the
    reference by which one should be directed as to a further
    understanding of this 'negative' methodology which the term anatta illuminates. It should be noted with great importance that the founder
    of Advaita Vedanta, Samkara used the term anatman lavishly in the
    exact same manner as does Buddhism, however in all of time since his
    passing, none have accused Samkara of espousing a denial of the Atman.
    Such as: “Atma-anatma vivekah kartavyo bandha nuktaye”-“The wiseman should discriminate between the Atman and the non-Atman (anatman) in
    order to be liberated.” [Vivekacudamani of Samkara v. 152], “Anatman cintanam tyaktva kasmalam duhkah karanam, vintayatmanam ananda rupam yan-mukti karanam.”-”Give up all that is non-Atman (anatman), which is the cause of all misery, think only of the Atman, which is blissful
    and the locus of all liberation.” [Vivekacudamani of Samkara v. 379], “Every qualifying characteristic is, as the non-Atman (anatman),
    comparable to the empty hand.” [Upadisa Sahasri of Samkara v. 6.2],
    “the intellect, its modifications, and objects are the non-Atman (anatman).” [Upadisa Sahasri of Samkara v. 14.9], “The gain of the non- Atman (anatman) is no gain at all. Therefore one should give up the
    notion that one is the non-Atman (anatman).” [Upadisa Sahasri of
    Samkara v. 14.44]. In none of the Buddhist suttas is there support for
    "there is no-atman" theories of anatta . The message is simply to
    cease regarding the very khandhas in those terms by which the notion
    of atman has, itself, been so easily misconstrued. As has been shown, detaching oneself from the phenomenal desire for the psycho-physical existence was also a central part of Samkara’s strategy. There is,
    hence, nothing in the suttas that Samkara, the chief proponent of
    Advaita Vedanta, would have disagreed with.
    Due to sectarian (and secular) propagation of commentary over
    that of doctrine, and more still a nominalized, or neutered
    mistranslation of the original Pali texts, a general acceptance of the concept of “A Doctrine of Anatta” exists as a status quo, however
    there exists no substantiation for same in sutta for Buddhism’s denial
    of the atman, or in using the term anatta in anything but a positive
    sense in denying Self-Nature, the Soul, to any one of a conglomeration
    of corporeal and empirical phenomena which were by their very
    transitory nature, “impermanent (anicca), suffering (dukkha), and
    Selfless (anatta)”. The only noun in sutra which is referred to as “permanent (nicca)” is the Soul, such as Samyutta Nikaya 1.169. Buddhism’s ‘na me so atta’ is no more a denial of the Atman than is Socrates’ ‘to…soma….ouk estin ho anthropos’ (the body is not the Man
    [Aniochus 365]) is a denial of the Man. Young men asked Gotama as to
    the whereabouts of a woman they were seeking to which he replied “What young men do you think, were it not better for you to seek the Atman
    (atmanam gavis) than a woman?” [Vin 1.23]. In fact the term “Anatmavada” is a concept utterly foreign to Buddhist sutta, existing
    in only non-doctrinal Theravada, in some Mahayana, and Madhyamika commentaries. As the truism holds, a “lie repeated often enough over
    time becomes the truth”. Those interested parties incident to learning
    of Buddhism are most often incapable of pouring through endless
    gigantic piles of Buddhist doctrine, and have therefore defacto
    accepted the commentarial-based trash, the notion of a “doctrine of
    anatta (or often said "no soul doctrine")” as key to Buddhism itself,
    when in fact there exists not one citation of this untenable and
    irrational concept in either the Digha, Majjhima, Samyutta, Anguttara,
    or Khuddaka Nikayas. Unless evoking a fallacy, we who seek out
    Buddhism sans the commentarialists slants and opinion-based musings,
    must stick strictly to sutta as reference, wherein the usage of anatta
    never falls outside of the parameter of merely denying Self or Soul to
    the profane and transitory phenomena of temporal and samsaric life
    which is “subject to arising and passing”, and which is most certain
    not (an) our Soul (atta). Certainly the most simple philosophically
    based logic would lead anyone to conclude that no part of this frail
    body is “my Self, is That which I am”, is “not my Soul”, of which Gotama the Buddha was wholeheartedly in agreement that no part of it
    was the Soul i.e. was in fact anatta. The spiritual and metaphysical
    adept is one who must be the “dead man walking” who has followed the commandment: “die before ye die!”, and is one who has died to that
    (mere) self and lives in the Spirit, or the Self. This is the
    discernment between the Great Self (mahatta) and little self
    (alpatman); or the fair Self (kalyanatta) from the foul self
    (papatta).
    The perfect contextual usage of anatta in sutta: “Whatever form, feelings, perceptions, experiences, or consciousness there are (the
    five aggregates), these he sees to be without permanence, as
    suffering, as ill, as a plague, a boil, a sting, a pain, an
    affliction, as foreign, as otherness, as empty (suññato), as Selfless (anattato). So he turns his mind (citta) away from these and gathers
    his mind/will within the realm of Immortality (amataya dhatuya). This
    is tranquility; this is that which is most excellent!” [MN 1.436]. The Buddha never considered the atman to be micchaditthi (wrong view). If
    the Buddha disbelieved in an atman (soul) why did he not deny the
    atman unambiguously? There is no such denial.
    By denying outright the soul, by default, the Theravadins,
    western ‘scholars’ examining Buddhism, and modern "buddhists" imply
    that the five aggregates are ultimate. This of course is absurd.
    They have merely shifted Buddhism to an empiricism by ignoring pro-
    atman statements. According to them, what is real is what makes
    sensory knowledge possible, namely, the five aggregates which,
    ironically, according to the canon, are = Mara, or evil (papa); [SN
    3.195] “Mara = five khandhas (empirical self)”. It begs the question
    to assume that the no-soul doctrine had been established at the
    beginning of the Buddha’s ministry and that the atman (soul) was, in
    every respect, an abhorrent term. Still, for such a supposedly
    abhorrent term, there are innumerable, are countless positive
    instances of atman used throughout the Nikayas, especially used in
    compounds which are easily glossed over by a prejudicial commentator
    and nominalist translators. In meeting these instances, not
    surprisingly, these same prejudicial translators have erected a theory
    that the atman is purely a reflexive pronoun. The lexical rule that
    atman (Pali: attan) is to be used strictly in a pronominal fashion, or
    simply should be used as a signifier for the finite body, is
    unwarranted. Scholars like C.A.F. Davids, Conze, Humphrey, Schrader,
    Horner, Pande, Coomarswamy, Radhakrishnan, Sogen, Suzuki, Julius
    Evola, and Nakamura, just to name some important scholars, disagree
    with the claim that Buddha categorically denied an eternal (nicca)
    soul, whose teachings then, would be classified as Annihilationist and Materialist. In fact there are utterly none living or dead who have
    examined the original texts in detail whilst refraining from sectarian
    and commentarial explanations and concluded Buddhism has in any way
    denied the atman thru and by means of the usage of the term anatta or otherwise. The fatally determined conglomeration which comprises the
    temporal body “headed for the grave” is not in dispute and is what is meant by anatta. To this there can be no opposition since all forms of metaphysics cry out for a “freedom from (that mere) self”, as Buddhism
    is in full agreement: [Dhm. 147] "Behold! That painted puppet this
    body, riddled with oozing sores, an erected façade. Diseased heap that
    fools fancy and swoon over; True Essence is not part of it! For the
    body befalls utter destruction, [Dhm. 148] "This body is soon worn
    out. It is that very same abode for disease and sicknesses that is
    broken apart. The body is soon cast away, that very putrid heap. It is
    always in death that life meets its end!”, [Dhm. 150] "Behold! This
    city of bones, plastered together with flesh and blood. Within its
    walls are old age and death. Pride, arrogance, and hypocrisy are its townsfolk!", [MN 1.185] "What of this short-lived body which is clung
    to by means of craving? There is nothing in it to say ‘I’ or ‘mine’ or
    ‘me’."
    The term anatman is found not only in Buddhist sutras, but also
    in the Upanishads and lavishly so in the writings of Samkara as
    mentioned earlier. Anatman is a common via negativa (neti neti, not
    this, not that) teaching method common to Vedanta, Neoplatonism,
    Buddhism, early Christian mystics, and others, wherein nothing
    affirmative can be said of what is “beyond speculation, beyond words,
    and concepts” thereby eliminating all positive characteristics that
    might be thought to apply to the Soul, or be attributed to it; to wit
    that the Subjective ontological Self-Nature (svabhava / atman) can
    never be known objectively, but only thru “the denial of all things
    which it (the Soul) is not”- Meister Eckhart. This doctrine is also
    called by the Greeks Apophasis. Via negativa can only go so far, such
    that the Subject (Witness/Atman) cannot be negated (Subject precedes
    any object of negation, even and also false attempts at Subject/
    Witness negation [=nihilism]). Objective negation culminates in
    Subjective gnosis and liberation, not to mention is the most expedient
    means to Atman-realization (atmanbodhi, cittavimutta, pannavimutta,
    etc.). Just as a fool might, for hundreds of hours, pick thru a pile
    of straw (phenomena) in search of a needle (atman), the wisest of men,
    in mere seconds, lights a match to the phenomena (straw) which quickly
    burns and blows away, leaving before his feet the needle sought; and
    this is of course part of the expediency as core to the via negativa methodology.
    Modern Buddhism (so-called, not that it is Buddhism in any way)
    labors under the heinous delusion that from the outset there is no
    immaterial and ontological soul, or atman in the system of Buddhism
    and therefore the only logical conclusion from this false premise is
    that Buddhism is merely a profane moral Humanism based in
    compassionate empirical idealism, ‘liberation but no Liberant’, and
    this is palpably false. Under the guise of a more polished form of physicalism or rather, Atheism, a mere qualifier of objective
    phenomena, anatta, has overrun a noetic metaphysics, Buddhism, based
    in extracting the nous (spirit, citta, Self) from the objective cosmos (=anatta) wherein it has been miserably immersed since time immemorial
    as due to the attribute of the Absolute (Brahman, Greek = Hen), that
    being avijja (agnosis, nescience, as is philosophically meant
    Emanationism). Avijja (a+vijja [atman]) and anatta (an+atman) in no
    way differ, such that both refer to the beginningless privation, or objectivity immanent to the Absolute. Overcoming this objective desire (tanha) and enthrallment which constitute what is meant by anatta, is
    vijja (illumination), or conventionally liberation (vimutta,
    vijjavimutta); namely the only connection between atman and anatta is
    that of avijja to which Buddhism’s endgoal is pannavimutta (liberation
    via wisdom) in which avijja has no longer any footing; where avijja is
    not present, so too is anatta absent, this is the very Tathagata (gone
    to Brahman, or That), the same ‘dead man walking’, he who has ‘died before he has (physically) died’. Like the ancient riddle about the
    fool "who rides upon horseback looking to and fro for a horse, and
    seeing none, denies that horses exist", so too is modern buddhism
    inept and impotent in 'seeing' that the focus is the Witness (atman),
    that very Subject which cannot be known (empirical knowledge)
    objectively, but which can be Known (gnosis, wisdom); thereby
    effectuating "liberation", "immortality" (amata), and the declaration
    that "this is my last life".
    That myself or anyone need go into such extensive and repetitive
    detail about a simple term, anatta, which now corruptly forms the
    basis of modern Buddhism, only demonstrates the heights from which
    original Buddhism has fallen severely over the past 2400 years. Like
    an ancient city in the jungle overgrown with vines and weeds, shat
    upon by nesting birds, and inhabited by fanged monkeys who fling their
    feces at visitors, modern "buddhism" attracts only the mentally
    perverse, often spiritually suicidal, who wrongly see superficially
    something noble in a soulless nihilistic Humanistic idealism.

    Yes, atheism is the cancer destroying the world in the age og Kali.

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